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Omnimek · Sep 14, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

I think, perhaps, the real shame is that misogynistic views of male domination as opposed to ones that show a 'building up' or 'nurturing' spirit are not so readily and strongly questioned, the latter being painfully rare in current works.

To me in this instance it seemed appropriate that some of the evil monsters you were violently fighting who see the hero as sub human, a food source and weak in a world where strength is beauty and power would behave as they did. Appropriate that they would do all but shit on the hero. Its a victory lap, Halo-tea-bagging. Violence and denigration that is too strong or out of proportion though becomes a turn off or a silly mirrored mockery of the overblown and absurd ways that some men hate or abuse women. Which in its extremes also seems to turn the dial from hot to sad.

Roadkill007 · Sep 14, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

thetruemaster said:
I can understand that, but I don't think that proving your dominance requires that you drive the other into the dirt. That doesn't scream femdom to me, it screams asshole-dom. It was the scenes where clearly superior girls were impressed with the player, or wanted to make him better that I enjoyed the most. Being demeaned was probably the second biggest turn off for me in this game, next to the undead, so I was really disappointed on just how often it came up.

well I guess that's why those were the "bad" monsters? Like I said, there are some people who enjoy that aspect, and there are others that don't. It's really just a personal taste thing. If you watch/read hentai, something similar is how some people get turned on by ntr, while others get so pissed off they can't enjoy the fictional story (ntr, if you didn't know, is where the male protagonist isn't the one to sex up the female protagonist, and often has cheating elements to it, ie. wife on pizza delivery boy, etc)

And redx, I dunno how many times I lost to frederika, but her rape scene was one of my favorites

after it was updated at least. It was a bit stale b4 he added in all that hot stuff.

thetruemaster · Sep 14, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Omnimek said:
I think, perhaps, the real shame is that misogynistic views of male domination as opposed to ones that show a 'building up' or 'nurturing' spirit are not so readily and strongly questioned, the latter being painfully rare in current works.

To me in this instance it seemed appropriate that some of the evil monsters you were violently fighting who see the hero as sub human, a food source and weak in a world where strength is beauty and power would behave as they did. Appropriate that they would do all but shit on the hero. Its a victory lap, Halo-tea-bagging. Violence and denigration that is too strong or out of proportion though becomes a turn off or a silly mirrored mockery of the overblown and absurd ways that some men hate or abuse women. Which in its extremes also seems to turn the dial from hot to sad.

True, any time I see someone demeaning someone else for no good reason (this is his first time, how long did you expect him to last?!) I always see them as a self absorbed, childish, hypocritical assholes. None of those aspects turn me on in the slightest. It was just annoying when I was going through the scenes and then the rapist suddenly says something like "...how pathetic." and I'd just sigh, feeling my arousal going down.

Mind you, friendly teasing is just fine, that is sexy. In my mind, friendly teasing screams maturity, which is a turn on for me.

Papanomics · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

I'm really happy I could play this in English since I don't have AGHT or anything that translates moonspeak.

I can't get enough of the battle music.

The only thing I would ask for now (and believe me I am not being ungrateful) is the destruction of that infamous censorship.

osafune · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

could someone explain how to beat frederika (or give me a little guide on how to) please. I've tried a lot of ways to beat her but she always ends up using the throw down move on me and then die from all her attacks.

Trigon · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

raigntk said:
could someone explain how to beat frederika (or give me a little guide on how to) please. I've tried a lot of ways to beat her but she always ends up using the throw down move on me and then die from all her attacks.

Frederika is pretty tough. The most important thing is to keep your health high through most of the fight. It's one of those fights where even if you do everything right you might still lose if you get unlucky. Just keep trying. More details on how to win the fight in the spoiler below:

Note: I'm assuming you're playing on Hard mode. I'm not sure how it's different on Normal.

I usually start with thunder thrust, but you could spam regular attacks instead if you want.
When your HP gets close to half, always use Meditation to heal except (maybe) at the very end of the fight (see below)
When you reduce her to around 70 to 75% health, She's use Immoral Trio, which does about 50-60 damage total. Make sure your health is high before the attack, or make sure you heal immediately after it.
When her health is about 35-40%, she'll use Throw Down. It is very important to have high HP before she does this, because she gets 2 attacks every round in this position (dealing 30-40 damage per round or so)
When bound by Throw Down, Struggle. You must struggle at least 3 times to escape. However, pay attention to the dialog. (see next note below)
If she starts "Reverse-Rape Preparation", you must immediately Attack instead of Struggle, or you will auto-lose (pointless mating). The successful attack will immediately free you.
Once free, try to heal again as soon as possible and keep fighting defensively. She may use Throw Down and/or Immoral Trio again, so it's still important to keep your HP and SP high
At the end of the battle when her health is very low, like a sliver, (I'd say less than 4%), consider using a special attack like Demon Head Beheading or Demon Beheading to end the fight. These attacks will not miss. Only do this if you're reasonably sure the attack will finish her though.

That's how I won the fight, and even then it took a couple of tries. Someone else might have a better method.

osafune · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Trigon said:
Frederika is pretty tough. The most important thing is to keep your health high through most of the fight. It's one of those fights where even if you do everything right you might still lose if you get unlucky. Just keep trying. More details on how to win the fight in the spoiler below:

Note: I'm assuming you're playing on Hard mode. I'm not sure how it's different on Normal.

I usually start with thunder thrust, but you could spam regular attacks instead if you want.

When your HP gets close to half, always use Meditation to heal except (maybe) at the very end of the fight (see below)

When you reduce her to around 70 to 75% health, She's use Immoral Trio, which does about 50-60 damage total. Make sure your health is high before the attack, or make sure you heal immediately after it.

When her health is about 35-40%, she'll use Throw Down. It is very important to have high HP before she does this, because she gets 2 attacks every round in this position (dealing 30-40 damage per round or so)

When bound by Throw Down, Struggle. You must struggle at least 3 times to escape. However, pay attention to the dialog. (see next note below)

If she starts "Reverse-Rape Preparation", you must immediately Attack instead of Struggle, or you will auto-lose (pointless mating). The successful attack will immediately free you.

Once free, try to heal again as soon as possible and keep fighting defensively. She may use Throw Down and/or Immoral Trio again, so it's still important to keep your HP and SP high

At the end of the battle when her health is very low, like a sliver, (I'd say less than 4%), consider using a special attack like Demon Head Beheading or Demon Beheading to end the fight. These attacks will not miss. Only do this if you're reasonably sure the attack will finish her though.

That's how I won the fight, and even then it took a couple of tries. Someone else might have a better method.

thank you very much. was a lot easier xD

buttear · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

I am interested in this game but it seems the first link is the japanese version and the link to the english patch is not working? Also the Dlsite link takes me to the japanese version, is there an easy english version to buy and download somewhere? I apologize for the newbness I am new to the site and this is my first post

frosthelium · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Do you know if the patched version is translated to eng? Since the link to Hongfire isnt working, I cant find anything, not even through google. And if yes, could you post it, please?

Jeszael · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

frosthelium said:
Do you know if the patched version is translated to eng? Since the link to Hongfire isnt working, I cant find anything, not even through google. And if yes, could you post it, please?

You mean with the added scenes etc? Last time I checked it wasn't fully translated, however it might've changed since then as some replies here suggest...

kaspiakapsas · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

buttear said:
I am interested in this game but it seems the first link is the japanese version and the link to the english patch is not working? Also the Dlsite link takes me to the japanese version, is there an easy english version to buy and download somewhere? I apologize for the newbness I am new to the site and this is my first post

Mega Man Trigger said:
Do you guys need an MU of the full English patch for Monster Girl Quest? I mean, I just found a link to it browsin' /v/, and I figured you guys might want it, if you didn't have it. And then I could be all "Hey holy shit, I just contributed!" *feels better for downloading terabytes of hentai from this awesome community*

You must be registered to see the links

Oh well shit, 3 days too late, now I feel like an Ass hat lol

*edit* Oh uh, in this version I never had any bugs either, I didn't even have moonspeak unicode settings. IDK if the other ones were like that too, or if this one's special, but I guess it can't hurt to have another option for downloads.

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Thorlin · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

thetruemaster said:
True, any time I see someone demeaning someone else for no good reason (this is his first time, how long did you expect him to last?!) I always see them as a self absorbed, childish, hypocritical assholes. None of those aspects turn me on in the slightest. It was just annoying when I was going through the scenes and then the rapist suddenly says something like "...how pathetic." and I'd just sigh, feeling my arousal going down.

Mind you, friendly teasing is just fine, that is sexy. In my mind, friendly teasing screams maturity, which is a turn on for me.

A non-perfect solution to that is to edit the text and replace the word pathetic (which a frequent word in this game) everywhere by for example 'cute', which is easy to do. Some superficial reading may be required though to avoid replacing 'pathetic' when it is relevant to the story.

thetruemaster · Sep 15, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Thorlin said:
A non-perfect solution to that is to edit the text and replace the word pathetic (which a frequent word in this game) everywhere by for example 'cute', which is easy to do. Some superficial reading may be required though to avoid replacing 'pathetic' when it is relevant to the story.

Its actually quite hilarious just how much the scene is changed with that one word replacement.

buttear · Sep 16, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

It seems the full english patch linked here made everything work! Didnt even need that applocal thing or to change any settings (win7). From reading the posts, I am assuming the game is always released in japanese, but we need someone to MU an english patch? I would like to support the creators, but I do want to buy a working product and one thats in english. So I guess my question is

Will the creatorts release a english ready version I can buy, if so what would be the link to the english dl store/site?

or

Do we wait for rogue translator and I dl this from MU?

buttear · Sep 16, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Ohh I had one other question! Are there any other femdom games like this (femdom on male, no futa preferred) that you guys can recommend?

redx · Sep 16, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

since hongfire went down i googled a torrent of it and got it and then got a save which is the translated version

Roadkill007 · Sep 16, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

buttear said:
Ohh I had one other question! Are there any other femdom games like this (femdom on male, no futa preferred) that you guys can recommend?

I will recommend leotard quest. It uses RPG maker though, so you have to get that. But basically... it's like an old school RPG, that uses sex attacks. Only thing is there's no english patch or anything, so you have to use agth to translate it. Even then , i dunno much about the story, but there's plenty of pics

plenty of enemies, so it's kinda fun?

you can find it if you google "leotard quest"

Thorlin · Sep 16, 2011

Re: Monster Girl Quest

thetruemaster said:
Its actually quite hilarious just how much the scene is changed with that one word replacement.

That gives me the impression that it should for the designers have been easy to include a flag so the user can indicate whether he likes humiliation or not. I guess that should take around 100 hours work.

buttear said:
Will the creatorts release a english ready version I can buy, if so what would be the link to the english dl store/site?

I think it is unlikely an English version will be released. A few sites I am aware of where visual novels in English are sold are :