Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[FruitSmoothie]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Which unit do you guy think i should AW first : Chloe, Spica or Carry.

Carry is the least of my list because i already have plenty of good duelist: AW Betty, Claudia, Thetis and Anya. However Fruit mention carry is one of the best Duelist after AW.

Carry is one of the best gold duelists, she's like an tanky Bandit, nothing wrong with that. Her attack can easily go over 1200 with skill (1500+ max), so she bashes through defense like she's doing magic damage and it's on a pretty quick cooldown. In comparison to your other duelists, she'd be more reliable.

Chloe is a gimmick, her AW skill blows and is extremely unreliable. Claudia is very slow for her attack, though her skill is pretty awesome, she has low survivability. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe unlike other Princess units, Claudia doesn't do magic damage unless her skill is active, making her a bit less useful in general (Though her base attack is pretty nice). Betty also has low defense/hp and can cause you trouble if she doesn't dodge. Plenty of enemies that can one shot her. Themis/Thetis just has low stats all around, the magic damage has its uses but Carry can usually ignore defense pretty easily anyways.

Anya is more of an off tank than a duelist, at least how I think about her. Her cost is too high for her damage for me to consider her a duelist but she can tank things nobody else can. Like Themis and most Princess' they've kind of lost their home as amazing duelists because of their slow attack speed, and the fact that there are plenty of units that can reach their damage potential now against armored units thanks to AW. Remember Carry can also get down to 15 cost, and can give you sortie every kill. She also has full sortie cost recovery upon retreating her as well, I think some people don't know how useful that can be, she's basically a free unit.

Allllllll that being said, Spica would probably be the best choice (As Petite said, once you see her rip through red gargoyles and dragons you'll know why), but Carry is a close second. Your other duelists are HEAVILY missing out on the tankiness/reliability Carry possesses. Carry is just extremely well balanced, can't go wrong with her. Her only weakness is rush maps really, and even then she'll probably one shot most everything in a rush map so she won't lose out too much.

@Fruitsmoothie: Magic Resist +10% is pretty good on Odette according to Japanese players that use her. Arch Mage Odette has a high cost, so you're generally going to find yourself wishing you could deploy her last in positions where she has easy access to enemies. With her magic resistance and skill, you can get her so she only receives 300-400 damage from a lich making her more suitable to act as a lightning rod than other ranged units, especially if you want to use a silver healer in combination with her.

Basically Odette's ability gives you some more options on the positions and order you deploy your units (i.e. you don't have to deploy Odette first, and then Carrie in front of her). The same can't really be said for Sedis, since she can only endure 3 shots from a lich before perishing (2 as a priestess), so using Sedis as a lightning rod is too risky.

Does make it sound more appealing on her with the synergy on her skill, though I've never really had a problem finding a suitable lightning rod. Problem is can you even get her skill prepared in time when she's deployed last? Sounds like a lot of extra hassle for a bit more survivability to me. Without it on, her HP is pretty low after all. She does usually end up being one of my last units naturally anyways, so I guess that's saying something for her, it would just passively make Lich fights easier with no extra work. I get what you're saying there.

 

[arisato minato]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Stupid me i made a mistake.

the unit i am having hard choice is Noel not Chloe ( still wonder why i keep mistake one for the other)

Noel is currently my best mage, plus her AW give 10% gold bonus.

but i guess i would listen to you guy and AW Spica. I can make do with the gold buy doing monday daily quest.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Stupid me i made a mistake.

the unit i am having hard choice is Noel not Chloe ( still wonder why i keep mistake one for the other)

Noel is currently my best mage, plus her AW give 10% gold bonus.

but i guess i would listen to you guy and AW Spica. I can make do with the gold buy doing monday daily quest.

Noel was one of my first AWings, she's great. Beyond the 10% gold that adds up quickly, she's also an early bloomer stat wise. Getting her to 30-40 after AWing puts her near her max stat cap already, making her a great choice early on. You don't have to worry about maxing her after AWing before she's really useful like some others.

 

[Petite Soeur]

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1) Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe unlike other Princess units, Claudia doesn't do magic damage unless her skill is active, making her a bit less useful in general (Though her base attack is pretty nice).

2) Themis/Thetis just has low stats all around, the magic damage has its uses but Carry can usually ignore defense pretty easily anyways.

3) Like Themis and most Princess' they've kind of lost their home as amazing duelists because of their slow attack speed, and the fact that there are plenty of units that can reach their damage potential now against armored units thanks to AW.

1) Claudia always deals magic damage.

2) Don't confuse Thetis with Themis. Themis is the gold princess. Thetis is the platinum valkyrie, and the most broken melee unit in the entire game (especially after they decided to raise her affection attack bonus from 60 to 120).

3) Themis, Claudia, Karma, and Anya have the same attack speed. Lilia, Sherry, Olivia, and Sybilla have their own attack speed tier. I can't calculate this with Claudia, but a level 70 Sherry with a skill of 1/5 deals more damage than a skill 5/5 AW80 Carrie against a 300DF opponent. Claudia is roughly as good as Sherry (better depending on the circumstances), so I can say you should use Claudia to deal with the boss opponents, and Carrie on the unarmoured small fry.

I have a Brynhildr Dahlia, who is better than Carrie, and I still found my Princess Lilia to be faster than Dahlia at defeating 300DF opponents (even at AW50 and a skill of 3/5, Lilia is still slightly better than Dahlia). Lilia is the tank-type princess, and even against a maxed out Carrie, Lilia only does 3-4 thousand less damage than a maxed out Brynhildr Carrie in 60 seconds, and Lilia only has to be leveled up to level 70 once (unlike Carrie that has to be raised to 50, then 60, then 80, and be fed who knows how many dragon steaks and rainbow fairies to reach her max potential).

Princess-type units are still good even though awakening exists.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

1) Claudia always deals magic damage.

2) Don't confuse Thetis with Themis. Themis is the gold princess. Thetis is the platinum valkyrie, and the most broken melee unit in the entire game (especially after they decided to raise her affection attack bonus from 60 to 120).

3) Themis, Claudia, Karma, and Anya have the same attack speed. Lilia, Sherry, Olivia, and Sybilla have their own attack speed tier. I can't calculate this with Claudia, but a level 70 Sherry with a skill of 1/5 deals more damage than a skill 5/5 AW80 Carrie against a 300DF opponent. Claudia is roughly as good as Sherry (better depending on the circumstances), so I can say you should use Claudia to deal with the boss opponents, and Carrie on the unarmoured small fry.

I have a Brynhildr Dahlia, who is better than Carrie, and I still found my Princess Lilia to be faster than Dahlia at defeating 300DF opponents (even at AW50 and a skill of 3/5, Lilia is still slightly better than Dahlia). Lilia is the tank-type princess, and even against a maxed out Carrie, Lilia only does 3-4 thousand less damage than a maxed out Brynhildr Carrie in 60 seconds, and Lilia only has to be leveled up to level 70 once (unlike Carrie that has to be raised to 50, then 60, then 80, and be fed who knows how many dragon steaks and rainbow fairies to reach her max potential).

Princess-type units are still good even though awakening exists.

I wonder why they make a point to say Claudia has magic bypass during her skill activation then. Thanks though, wasn't sure on that, the times when I tested her she seemed to do a lot more damage on armored enemies with her skill on than her bonus attack should have added.

Well she translates to Tethys for me, Themis is closer to Thetis than Tethys lol. Although I forgot about her, it's also more likely they have Themis than her in my head, so I would have assumed that anyways.

I figured most Princess' had the same or similar attack speed, I just added it to say that Princess' have to worry about rush like AW Carry does. Are you factoring in attack speed on your damage calculations there? Carry can reach like 1522 attack during skill, Claudia can reach 912-1053 depending on 1.3-1.5 multiplier skill. Seems like they end up roughly even to me against armored units but I don't remember AW Carrie's exact speed.

The problem that I have is that Princess units are typically premium gacha only (Obviously minus Themis), while Carry has been regularly handed out for gold rush. I compare based on rarity and cost, you're unlikely to be able to reduce the cost of plat Princess units, especially as a free player. Comparing Princess units that cost 20 vs a Carry that could be 17-16 cost for even newer players by now is a noticeable difference. It's like comparing punch strength of a heavy weight boxer to a medium weight, it's not really a fair fight. I usually try to add "For their cost" to everything when comparing, maybe I missed one somewhere Carry also has the survivability that most of them lack.

They're good I agree, but not great/amazing like they used to be was all I was trying to say. Claudia is pretty awesome if she doesn't get slaughtered and I use her pretty regularly (But I also lack AW units atm). Princess units used to be pretty OP and now they're just averageish and specialized vs a lot of AW units. I think they should all be given 1.2x damage against certain units like Claudia or something similar. When you have AW units that can do around their damage AND take a hit, it doesn't make them look too great. I'd love to have an excuse to use Themis again because dat affection CGs.

 

[exkale]

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I found that a princess unit can be great even at 20 cost in the early stages. Great unit to take out armored units when they are the most troublesome for new players. At 100% affection, they are a shredding units left and right before they can reach the rear units. Granted the princess unit I had was only level 30 and 100%, she was worth the cost. As I approach the middle-ish tier of maps, I find myself worried more about cost. When cost isn't an issue during a map, such as most of the DC event maps. Sherry is the reason why I was able to unlock the rest of the DC maps by clearing the 70/3 map. Okay, maybe a newer mage was the reason, but she was able to kill the dragon bosses fast enough that she never got overwhelmed by their damage. A HA at my level would slowly die because I don't have many CC'd units at that time.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Didn't know you had her, late grats! Yeah they're great early on, no denying that. Sherry is pretty awesome and my favorite of the non event/black Princess' ability wise.

I'm just sad that all of them got a nerf via comparison around when the AW patch hit, I'd like them to go back to their former elite duelist status Of course there are also just a lot more units that do magic damage now as well. Princess units used to be so unique/special. Well I guess it was bound to happen eventually. I remember obtaining a Princess was my first real goal in this game because of how absurdly useful they were (And still are early on).


Rita why are you so evil?

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Nothing: 7/29 (24.1%)
Plat Fairy: 11/29 (37.9%)
Silver Rogue: 4/29 (13.8%)
Silver Ninja: 3/29 (10.3%)
Rita: 12/29 (41.3%)

Already had a copy from an earlier map as well.

1: +1 Skill, -1 Cost
2: -1 Cost
3: +1 Skill
4: +1 Skill
5: +1 Skill
6: Nothing
7: +1 Skill
8: Nothing
9: Nothing
10: Nothing
11: Nothing
12: Nothing

Skill: 5/10, Cost Reduction -2/-5

Worst farm event for me ever, and for a unit that isn't even that great, unf. At least I stopped spending crystals on it a few days ago. I did need the rogues and the plat fairies helped a bit, but disappointment on Rita drops and levels. I saw comments on the wiki about her being more difficult to cost reduce than normal, and here I thought it was just superstition.

 

[exkale]

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Thanks! I just got her skill to 4/5 today and I already plan on getting her to 50~60 since Jelius was just CC'd. Since I only have 3 Platinum units I focus on, I am rotating resources between Sherry, Jelius, and Momiji.

It's nice to be able to go past 1,000 damage

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[TieSKey]

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Didn't know you had her, late grats! Yeah they're great early on, no denying that. Sherry is pretty awesome and my favorite of the non event/black Princess' ability wise.

I'm just sad that all of them got a nerf via comparison around when the AW patch hit, I'd like them to go back to their former elite duelist status Of course there are also just a lot more units that do magic damage now as well. Princess units used to be so unique/special. Well I guess it was bound to happen eventually. I remember obtaining a Princess was my first real goal in this game because of how absurdly useful they were (And still are early on).


Rita why are you so evil?

Spoiler

Nothing: 7/29 (24.1%)
Plat Fairy: 11/29 (37.9%)
Silver Rogue: 4/29 (13.8%)
Silver Ninja: 3/29 (10.3%)
Rita: 12/29 (41.3%)

Already had a copy from an earlier map as well.

1: +1 Skill, -1 Cost
2: -1 Cost
3: +1 Skill
4: +1 Skill
5: +1 Skill
6: Nothing
7: +1 Skill
8: Nothing
9: Nothing
10: Nothing
11: Nothing
12: Nothing

Skill: 5/10, Cost Reduction -2/-5

Worst farm event for me ever, and for a unit that isn't even that great, unf. At least I stopped spending crystals on it a few days ago. I did need the rogues and the plat fairies helped a bit, but disappointment on Rita drops and levels. I saw comments on the wiki about her being more difficult to cost reduce than normal, and here I thought it was just superstition.

Rest assured for I have had it worse (Idk if its correct english but it sounds good )
Fed like 11 copies of Shiho during her event, got only -2 cost. Fed her another 5 during the revival, still at -2. I have one last ray of hope (copy) waiting for fairies.
I think some copies are just broken, the probabilities of failing -3 cost on more than 10 trials is absurdly low...

 

[Starbound]

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Nevermind. The Wiki is useful.

Another question though. If I fed 3 Ritas at once would I have a chance to drop her cost by 3 and raise her skill level by 3 at the same time? Or do I need to feed them one by one.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

How to fuse Rita
Rita 1: -1 cost, +1 skill.
Done. You see? This is how you get 100% cost reduction and 100% skill up. *coughs*

Rest are mini-can which I didn't even bother farming, drop rate are too low. I blame Nanaly, there's no need for another archer 90% of the time.

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Where's a butter knife when I needed it? I want to kill someone very~ slowly:

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[Starbound]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

How to fuse Rita
Rita 1: -1 cost, +1 skill.
Done. You see? This is how you get 100% cost reduction and 100% skill up. *coughs*

Rest are mini-can which I didn't even bother farming, drop rate are too low. I blame Nanaly, there's no need for another archer 90% of the time.

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Where's a butter knife when I needed it? I want to kill someone very~ slowly:

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What the actual holy fucks.

 

[TieSKey]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

How to fuse Rita
Rita 1: -1 cost, +1 skill.
Done. You see? This is how you get 100% cost reduction and 100% skill up. *coughs*

Rest are mini-can which I didn't even bother farming, drop rate are too low. I blame Nanaly, there's no need for another archer 90% of the time.

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Where's a butter knife when I needed it? I want to kill someone very~ slowly:

Spoiler

Don't bother with the knife, just take one leg, I take the other and we run in opposite directions XD

 

[arisato minato]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Don't bother with the knife, just take one leg, I take the other and we run in opposite directions XD

A man has three legs, let me help you smash the one in the middle.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Until better translation, upcoming patch notice via google translate:

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◆ News ◆ Maintenance

We patronage a thousand years war Aegis is patronage,
Thank you very much.

October 9, 2014 from (Thursday) 10:00, will be conducted maintenance.

[Maintenance] execution time
October 9 (Thursday) 10:00 ~ 2014 October 9, 2014 (Thursday) 15:00 scheduled end

[Maintenance] corresponding contents
■ Limited events
And end "snipers shadow" emergency mission
And end "the resurrection of Ryuhime" reprinted Mission
And new events start
- Added senior, a Kyoku-kyu to "large march of the mystics" large punitive mission
Large punitive mission will be until Thursday, November 6.

■ change other items
· Change the appearance of the unit up premium summons
And end the exchange with "dragon shaman Echidna" and "Holy Spirit at the time of" clearinghouse unit.

■ For unit adjustment and skills of September 18
For the following, it is an error in the description of the notice in the game and notice, and there was an omission.
We're sorry.
About effect rise increase in the amount of level-up of "Enhanced Defense 4"
There is no change to false) to the effect of the skill level 1.
Effect rising increase in the amount of level-up at the positive) skill level other than 5

About "Onmyoji Mikoto"
Add Donashi up effect of the attack at the time

Regarding errors in this time, we apologize for any inconvenience to the user like.
Apologize to overlap.


Users are placed in everyone of the user, to up to 5 minutes before the start of maintenance
Like you please let me finish the game, thank you.
With regard to the data had been received to play just before maintenance
There are times when it can not be saved properly.


Time zone of the above can not be asked to play the game,
Thank you like you in advance for your understanding.

But I will apologize for the inconvenience to the customer by the maintenance,
Humbly, thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

Thousand years war Aegis management team

In short, events end and are removed (Echidna and time fairy as well), a 3rd tier of the new limited event (large march of the mystics) will be added, new events starting (More than one it seems?) and some skill fixes.

I wonder if that means we'll be getting a reprint of an event. Yurina please :3

 

[Petite Soeur]

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Upcoming Maintenance Update on the 9th between 10:00~15:00:
-Emergency Mission "Shadow Sniper" Ends.
-Revival Mission "Dragon Princess's Revival" Ends.
-New Event Begins.
-High-tier and Extreme-tier added to Great Subjugation Mission "Great March of the Youma".
+The Great Subjugation Missions will be available until November 6th.
-Premium Summoning Chance-up Unit Changed.
-Echidna and Time Fairy Removed from Trading Post.
-Omitted Improvements from the Modifications on September 19th.
+Improvements to each skill level of Strengthen Defence IV (excluding 5/5)
+Slow Movement Effect Improved to Mikoto's Attack.

Tsukihime Kaguya:
Illustration: Katou Itsuwa (

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Release Date: November 29th

Rough Illustration:

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Some folks posted examples of light novels with serial codes from this publisher, and it looks like they're all unique codes, so you'll need to pre-order a copy of the light novel if you want Kaguya.

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Since I was unable to cancel one of my orders after I found out that Tamamo comes at max cost-reduction, I'm only going to pre-order one copy this time (several people PMed me about the Tamamo code, so I was able to recoup my losses from crom_mw). However, if someone on here that I know wants Kaguya, but doesn't want the light novel itself or to pay the full shipping cost for a single book, then I can order an additional copy, so you can have her for 1134JPY (PM me). You'll only save 600-1000JPY doing this, so I recommend pre-ordering a copy for yourself (it's an all-age book, so I doubt anyone would have any problems).

 

[Starbound]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Upcoming Maintenance Update between 10:00~15:00:
-Emergency Mission "Shadow Sniper" Ends.
-High-tier and Extreme-tier added to Great Subjugation Mission "Great March of the Youma".
+The Great Subjugation Missions will be available until November 6th.

Since I was unable to cancel one of my orders after I found out that Tamamo comes at max cost-reduction, I'm only going to pre-order one copy this time (several people PMed me about the Tamamo code, so I was able to recoup my losses from crom_mw). However, if someone on here that I know wants Kaguya, but doesn't want the light novel itself or to pay the full shipping cost for a single book, then I can order an additional copy, so you can have her for 1134JPY (PM me). You'll only save 600-1000JPY doing this, so I recommend pre-ordering a copy for yourself (it's an all-age book, so I doubt anyone would have any problems).

Aw, damn it. Thought her event might last for a bit longer, only managed to get 3 copies of her.

Yay for more efficient Great Youma march maps, though I can't even fully clear the 30 Charisma map as it is.

And aw, damn it again. Would have liked a Tamamo.

 

[exkale]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

This event has been good for me overall. Despite feeding a couple Funes to a couple units, forgetting that I needed 2 for future uses, I've gotten everything I needed.

7x Rita
3x Funes
1x Nenya
3x Arisa
1x Valerie

I've covered enough materials I needed for class changing with just Arisa and Valerie. Now I just hope the next event will allow me enough time to farm for fairies because I'm getting overloaded with bronze units I want to feed to other units.

 

[TieSKey]

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Just wasted 8 hours worth stamina in the magic crystal's mission... I hate when a bad initial placement dooms your entire run.............

 

[marcus3708]

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is the chick with the black armor a drop from the grayish looking field maps? I have little idea what I'm doing since I this game doesn't seem to let you open it in separate windows so goggle translate can work its magic. But I know that 2nd map in that place that spawns nothing but those giant ogres killed me quite easily. wouldn't seem to let me use archers or healers in the place.