Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[exkale]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

I'm reaching a point where I will finish class changing all the units I will use within a month or two. My roster will look like the following:

To-Do (no particular order atm):
Maribelle, Iris, Fedora, Valerie, Carrie, Berenice

Other than missing a silver mage, I have enough silver units to CC all of the above.

Already Class Changed:
Calliope, Mehlis, Nenya, Claire, Asar, Jelius, Katie, Momiji, Ruka, Arisa

Other:
Sherry, Echidna

I will be adding Xiao to the roster as an extra unit instead of Rita. Arisa will be replaced with Fedora or Iris. This will put me at 4 healers. Iris, Ruka (max cost reduction), Fedora, and Echidna. Some of these units will be interchangeable for versatility. My primary roster will always be Jelius, Sherry, Katie, Ruka, Arisa, Momiji, Calliope, and Claire. The others listed will be added if they are necessary for a mission. I still need to level up all of them past CC20. A good thing about knowing who I will use is that I won't be feeding new units unless they are good enough to replace or use as an extra unit. This will allow me to strengthen my current CC'd units after I finish the units not CC'd yet. Since I don't have a lot of silver units taking up resources, I do plan on getting Calliope and Ruka maxed out first.

I'm just wondering if I covered enough for what I will need to do well in higher tier maps. I don't expect to beat them easily because they aren't max level CC'd units with max affection.

Edit:
After taking a look, I am definitely missing low cost units, but I'm unsure about who to build up. Some of my options are Xena, Cypria, Kyuteri, and Betty.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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I'm just wondering if I covered enough for what I will need to do well in higher tier maps. I don't expect to beat them easily because they aren't max level CC'd units with max affection.

Edit:
After taking a look, I am definitely missing low cost units, but I'm unsure about who to build up. Some of my options are Xena, Cypria, Kyuteri, and Betty.

Well there's a low requirement, like the minimum usually needed and then there are maps that occasionally break that mold and require extra units, so I wrote this little list. Number in brackets is my personal recommendation for blind runs and such. I'd say everybody should have the minimum amount CC'd (Or usable however you need them) for all of these to consider their roster well balanced. End game requirements should be the max number.

1-2 of each (4 total): HA's, Soldiers, 2 block units/Anti Rush units (Monks, Samurai, Yurina, Rogues, Soldiers, etc)
2-3 of each (8 total): Witches, Archers, Mages, Duelists (Variety with different skill sets/abilities and cost is important for duelists, Valk highly recommended as one for sortie. I swap between about half a dozen duelists routinely depending on the situation.)
2-4 of each (3 total): Healers

Typically for any of the 2-4 recommended units you want at least one to be a silver (Or low cost like max reduced gold) so you can get it out quickly when needed (Daniela or Soma, Nenya or Calliope, etc.).

Now there are hybrid units that can give you more options, above is just the basics. The original cast of classes had very distinct jobs so they're the easiest to give advice on. As long as you understand the job of each class, you can do whatever you want with most options. This isn't just for you but newer people too, I'm sure you know a bit about all the classes already.

Xena and Betty for sure. Betty for her AW ability to nom gold and Xena because monks are amazing. Without cost reduction she might be a bit difficult as an anti rush unit, but it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

 

[exkale]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Looks like I'm close enough for now until I can add more units. I will definitely add Betty and Xena for sure. Especially Xena after remembering some posts about her in the past. I do want to put some priority on beefing up my current set of units before I CC those two. Since I have 2 Xena, is it worth it to CC both of them or should I feed her onto the main copy of Xena?

edit:
Thanks again for the advice, Fruit. Planning is hard when there's so many units to level up.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Looks like I'm close enough for now until I can add more units. I will definitely add Betty and Xena for sure. Especially Xena after remembering some posts about her in the past. I do want to put some priority on beefing up my current set of units before I CC those two. Since I have 2 Xena, is it worth it to CC both of them or should I feed her onto the main copy of Xena?

You managed to get two? Lucky~, definitely feed her. Monk's are basically the best anti rush units, so having a low cost is crucial. I'd say it's almost always best to at least feed the first copy, guaranteed -1 cost and +1 skill is too nice. After that for rare units you may consider having multiples (Like for blacks) but for most units I think you should aim for -2 or better cost instead. That may just be my personal preference though. I'm not big on having multiples of the same unit on my team.

If I managed to get 3-4 of the same black units though, I'd have to consider it for sure 2 -1 cost Desupia's, mmm. Mostly because I think I'd cry if I fed my Desupia 3 copies of herself and only got the guaranteed -1 cost on her... Black units should totally have a higher success chance of cost reduction.

 

[TieSKey]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Looks like I'm close enough for now until I can add more units. I will definitely add Betty and Xena for sure. Especially Xena after remembering some posts about her in the past. I do want to put some priority on beefing up my current set of units before I CC those two. Since I have 2 Xena, is it worth it to CC both of them or should I feed her onto the main copy of Xena?

edit:
Thanks again for the advice, Fruit. Planning is hard when there's so many units to level up.

Wait for an exp multiplier event and feed her the other copy. You could even lvl that copy to 30 or so and use it as a cheap antirush unit until such event comes.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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So far, everything chatzy does, this does as well, so we are going to try it out this maintenance.

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[hybras]

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For the last event map, I use three healers and block with Berenice in the bottom middle lane. Black Oni can't kill Berenice when three healers are overlooking her.

For the Gozu thing, I use black thief to ninja his ass. (Assassination). It works wonderfully, unfortunately, this is a cheap strategy that can't be replicated otherwise.


This goddamn map only drops platinum fairies, I didn't get shit all except platinums. I want my silver healers. wtf.

 

[TieSKey]

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Guys, do you have the affection dailies drop %?? I need some items but as far as I remember the drop was so bad that farming Phalanx 2 was more efficient :S

 

[Kroset]

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Guys, do you have the affection dailies drop %?? I need some items but as far as I remember the drop was so bad that farming Phalanx 2 was more efficient :S

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High tier daily has best efficiency for affection items. It is roughly 3/stamina, compared to phalanx 2's 1.856/sta.

 

[TieSKey]

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High tier daily has best efficiency for affection items. It is roughly 3/stamina, compared to phalanx 2's 1.856/sta.

Thx for the info.
Well, considering the chances to get a fairy, (and fairies are always needed), I would say Phalanx is still more useful in the long term
Anyway I need to max affection on a couple of units so daily is the fastest method.

3 runs... only the 9 guaranteed flowers and 3 pearls... yeah, this map sucks..

 

[arisato minato]

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I just did something really really stupid.

Did premium summon 5 times aiming for at least a Bernice copy.

Got 4 silvers instead.

i swear i will never do premium summon ever again.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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I just did something really really stupid.

Did premium summon 5 times aiming for at least a Bernice copy.

Got 4 silvers instead.

i swear i will never do premium summon ever again.

Aegis premium gacha lyfe.

I hope you had plenty to spare or RIP your next event chances. Better hope it isn't a Karma-like event.

 

[TieSKey]

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I just did something really really stupid.

Did premium summon 5 times aiming for at least a Bernice copy.

Got 4 silvers instead.

i swear i will never do premium summon ever again.

Lol, that's something that has to be learned the hard way
Although if you are "kechi" like me, you learn after 1 or 2 tries XD

 

[Anelai]

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Some time ago they were giving one sacred crystal each day for the whole week. I decided to use them on premium gacha (never did it before). Fortunately then they started gold rush and I needed my sacred crystals to farm it I am glad it happend @@

 

[TieSKey]

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Considering how crystals are handled in this game the gatcha is not really bad. You could roll 1.2 premium per week or more on average as a free player which is a LOT more than u get on other dmm games.

But of course, using them to farm events is absolutely the best option.

 

[hybras]

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The best way to spend crystals in this game as a free playing player are the following... in my opinion.

Below lv 64, go grab exp bonus, and power level to lv 64.

After lv 64, spend the crystals on inventory expansion and event grinding.


Gacha sucks, not worth it. Not worth it as in, if you don't have dough, it's not worth getting it... Because you need some rolls to get a chance of landing something decent.

Unlike you have ridiculous luck. In which case, I recommend you to try the lottery first, then use the lottery money to buy the gacha, which is a better method.

 

[Longherin]

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I personally did quite a lot of premium summons (with only the free crystals), and...

I think you should do summons if you desperately need unit variety (or at least consider unit variety to be more helpful in your current situation than a handful of levels).

For example, there are a couple of missions that I would not have cleared when I did if I didn't have some units I got out of the summons.

 

[SteveJ018]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Should I save up for the 5 crystal summon or just do the 3?

 

[arisato minato]

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Well. I have done Premium summon twice before when i was a newbie player.

The first unit is Princess Themis and she is my strongest duelist until i got better option like Claudia and Anya.

The second unit is HA Bernice and she still my strongest blocker.

So actually, premmium gatcha is not so bad since you can do it once a month but like TiesKey said, it is best to spent crystal for event.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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I'd recommend free players rarely if ever use premium gacha. If you're willing to spend money on the game it can be great and you support DMM and what not. For free players though it's pretty bad beyond maybe rolling it 2-3 times very early when any new gold could be helpful and crystals are plentiful from story mode clears. Event plat units are usually around gold gacha unit or better in strength and best of all, easy to cost reduce compared to gacha units. That means to make your gacha rolls worth it, you really need a strong plat or black unit from it or their cost/low skill level may mean they're weaker overall.

Different farm events and "Average" crystals you can count on needing to complete them:

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Regular Farm Event:
Frequency: 1-2 a month.
5-20 crystals (-4/-5 cost, +4-+5 skill)
These events are the easiest/most reliable way to obtain strong, max cost reduced units. The map difficulty is the lowest among all events (Except Gold Rush) and some can be as powerful as plat gacha units. (Monk Rinn, Maribelle, Odette, Shiho, Yurina, etc, etc)

Gold Rush Event:
Frequency: Every few months or so, pretty random
5-20 crystals (Obtaining all or nearly all the gold units available from it)
Get a bunch of golds you won't have a reliable way to cost reduce Though after a 2-3 of them you may have multiples. (Betty, Carry, Claire, Iris, Mehlis, Fedora, Garret, Monica, Themis, Julian, etc, etc)

Super Farm/Item Collection Event:
Frequency: Every 2-4 months
MANY CRYSTALS, probably 30 or more to complete the girl. Some of these have been black units that are incredibly powerful (Karma, Anya).

Magic Crystal Shop:
Frequency: Constant, units change every 2 months or so I think
MANY CRYSTALS, you'll be farming magic crystal dailies rather than event maps, but it's similar. Don't forget about these, there's usually a gold and plat for sale in it. Although they aren't as cost effective as typical event units, they are generally a bit more reliable in strength. The 200 cost ones are incredibly costly to farm but you can end up with some irreplaceable units (Spica, Shidisu).

So if you don't want to miss those, it's handy to try to always be sitting on 10-20+ crystals at least. You will get some more during the event for 3 stars and login bonuses after all.


The biggest thing for me is that events are guaranteed units that you can choose to skip or farm based on their known strengths/looks, gacha is gambling. Even if you somehow manage to get a plat or black from it, it could be a unit that you're not interested in at all. The increased chance of certain units dropping just improves their chance of them being obtained over another similar rarity, and not by much from what I can tell.

Again not hating on it if you want to spend your real money on it or even gamble your free crystals, do as you like if it makes you happy. Just saying for free players it's EXTREMELY inefficient and unreliable in comparison to all the event options you have for powerful units. Don't forget event girls may also be limited and may never return, huehuehue, while gacha units always remain in gacha. Yes, there are people who get lucky and obtain a plat/black unit to show off in the thread once in a while, but what you don't see (Or what you ignore ) is the dozens of rolls people failed to get them. Don't let the successes cloud your judgement, probability sucks lol.

For all the negativity here for it, I feel I should at least say: You do have the chance to obtain incredibly powerful units from it that you have no way of obtaining otherwise, so that's a plus. Some are legit gamebreaking and could help you clear events you may not have been able to otherwise. Aegis tries to put the cutest girls in it too after all.