Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[FruitSmoothie]

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Already have enough magic crystals for my first Saki (Yay 5 black units now!). Now to decide between a second copy of Saki or two copies of Akane next. I've always been missing a strong Samurai. I have Momiji but I'm worried about her AW ability (That extra attack doesn't mean much when her DPS plummets to hell, and if she's killing slower, she's taking more damage and letting more enemies through). Akane is so awesome, such a good mix of offense and defense and no weakness like Momiji.

Momoji (Currently 50/41, -4 cost and 6/10 skill):

Hp: 2926
Attack: 641
Defense: 343

AW ability: Slows her attack speed to crap
Skill: Burst damage with a huge penalty, with her slow attack speed it's not going to be too helpful I imagine.

Akane:

HP: 2768
Attack: 599
Defense: 365

AW ability: Raises her attack speed.
Skill: Awesome defensive ability that would make her a tank.

Akane almost matches her attack without the huge attack speed penalty. I wish I could see a comparison of their attack speeds after awakening. What do you guys think? Tough call since I have alternatives to both Saki and Akane. My Azami is max cost reduction, 4/5 skill and 50/53 atm as well. Logically I should disregard Akane since Momoji can still handle herself and you know, Saki is a black unit, but I do like Akane's looks. Not like I have infinite time or crystals to work on both as much as I'd like.

 

[Anelai]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Hana is moved to 28 charisma sand map: 砂の廃都

 

[Kroset]

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Akane:

HP: 2768
Attack: 599
Defense: 365

AW ability: Raises her attack speed.
Skill: Awesome defensive ability that would make her a tank.

Akane almost matches her attack without the huge attack speed penalty. What do you guys think? Tough call since I have alternatives to both Saki and Akane. My Azami is max cost reduction, 4/5 skill and 50/53 atm as well.

I'm also having a hard time deciding whether to get Akane or not. On my end though, her competitor is the front strategist Shuuka (already CC42, 4/5 skill).

HP: 1785
Attack: 601
Defense: 363
Cost: 19

AW: 30% dodge
Skill: +10% attack to the team for 60s

Attack/second is 1.00 for Akane and 0.94 for Shuuka (0.70 for Momiji). So the only glaring difference in favor of Akane is that she can block 1 more unit and has 1000 more HP... and slightly better dodge with her skill. Their damage output against single/double targets is fairly similar, which is also where Shuuka would win by a landslide with her skill.

So do I want a strong solo unit or a slightly weaker one that benefits the entire team, hmm~

 

[Aarkken]

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Hana is moved to 28 charisma sand map: 砂の廃都

Thanks for this I was wondering why I couldnt find her on Rural figured she might have moved, thought i'd check here first before I used trial and error to find her again.

 

[Starbound]

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Just wondering if anyone had any advice on whether Mehlis is worth it if I'm already building the Plat Mage Sasha?

Wondering if I should feed Bella to her for the 3X EXP and Skill Up.

 

[Kroset]

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Just wondering if anyone had any advice on whether Mehlis is worth it if I'm already building the Plat Mage Sasha?

Wondering if I should feed Bella to her for the 3X EXP and Skill Up.

This depends a lot on your team. As a lot of people mentioned, units with range extension skills open up a lot of strategies. There have been quite a few maps where having Mehlis would have made my life easier (such as the Imeria one in the circle shaped city, or the final maps for Memento and Fran), and I only pulled through by dropping very strong melees to make up for it.

 

[Petite Soeur]

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Finished rough translations for all of the event maps. I brought both Janna and Mel for the penultimate map as CC30+ Heavy Gunners and they did a good job.

In other news, it's been confirmed on Enterbrain's website that there's going to be a second part to the Kaguya Light Novel (千年戦争アイギス 月下の花嫁II ) that's going to be released on March 30th. I wonder if it's going to have another serial code for Kaguya, or if it's going to have a new unit.

While I did get on Momiji's case earlier in the thread (though, that's mainly to dismiss her usefulness as a Master Samurai, not her value compared to other Samurai). This is what a Shogun Momiji is capable of doing:

It's almost like the map was designed for Momiji's skill paralysis and CT downtimes.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Yeah I really do like Momoji too, she just has some glaring weaknesses that I usually prefer to avoid. When you compare her to a more solid Akane, it makes her seems not so great. I really love Akane for being armored up, what makes it difficult is that I really like Momoji's look too, even if she isn't exactly as scary as I'd like. I rate their AW art about even.

Maybe I can find Akane's cg images somewhere and I'll feel less bad about missing her. I really should focus on Saki. Her AW art though, dat pose so dynamic. I'd love to get her to -2 cost but I'm not sure if I can even acquire 2 more copies (Or if I want to gamble that). Well, i'll come to that decision after I get my next copy for the guaranteed -1. Now at that point the Saki vs Akane choice will be more difficult.

Hmm if that attack speed info is correct, means Momoji has 448.7 dps vs Akane's 599 dps against single targets. Won't matter much against small fries but against minibosses and bosses it could. Then again Momoji can shred them with her skill so eh. I will probably have to try to skill Momoji up to like 8-9 though to make good use of her skill. At level 9 I think she can get in about 5 attacks with Prince that's 2200+ attack 5 times. Pretty sure she can kill anything but bosses in that time.

 

[choas89]

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Hana has also moved onto the 14 charisma map 住民救出1.

 

[Longherin]

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Does each map only give one copy of the dancer (when she shows up)?

 

[choas89]

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Does each map only give one copy of the dancer (when she shows up)?

No, you should be able to farm her more then once per map. I got 2 from the same map yesterday.

 

[Creeping Terror]

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Kinda Sad Cutie-Pie Hana only gets 12 range from her affection. I mean 20 would have been a lot, but for a dancer, i feel that would be "appropriate".

Alas, Range increase is a big deal, and giving any unit too much would prolly cause the devs a headache they dont wanna deal with.

 

[marcus3708]

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I like that she has only 5 skill levels easier to max with copies but I dont like that her duration is shorter

 

[exkale]

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The duration of Soul Step is pretty good if you compare the CT as well. 18 seconds of a flat-stat bonus to units in range is a good amount of time to take care of difficult enemies. It's going to be based off of sub-par stats, but the skill will be up more often than Waltz's skill. In the time it takes for you to be able to use Soul Step 4 times, you'll be only able to use Waltz's skill 3 times.

Duration, Increase, CT
Soul Step Lv 5
18, 1.5x, 40
Passion Step Lv 10
25, 1.4x, 60

Even though I think Hana's stats are sub-par compared to other dancers, I still believe she is good. I've been using Waltz with 0% affection and know that if I get it to 100%, then she will be making my team into monsters. Hana is completely usable without an attack bonus from affection and can still pair off well with fast attacking units. There's also the fact that we don't know what they might do with their awakening and the ability they'll gain.

@FruitSmoothie
Petite made a post saying it's about 11% from aggregate data.
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=637816&postcount=6165

It's better to just farm the maps that require lower charisma. I've never noticed a substantial increase whenever I try out the higher cost missions.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Ah just noticed that she has Marnie's skill. That could mean she gets a better awakening ability too. Maybe I'll have to farm her after all. Just having a Dancer with an initial skill of 20 seconds over Waltz's 30 could make a difference on some maps for low cost units and rush maps.

How's the drops compare for the two maps, anybody know? Well I need food for Saki and some other units, might as well do the desert map.

Just got Dolka from free spin today, thank you Goddess D: I think I'm going to use her to CC Christopher rather than to feed my copy of Iris or save for awakening. Too many maps need 4 healers now and Echidna always fails me with her high cost.

 

[marcus3708]

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what map can I get the most fairies from bronze silver or anything I think I need a couple to rank maribelles skill once with that platinum lancer so I can try to 3 star that 50/5 map

 

[choas89]

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So say I wanna farm Hana in case she ends up being useful later. How many copies would be a good target?

 

[exkale]

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12~16 copies if you want at least -4 cost. I think 16 is a good number because that will at least get you 4/5, -4 if you're not that good with luck. I usually get -5 around 12~16 copies. No guarantees though because Aegis may or may not treat you well.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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So say I wanna farm Hana in case she ends up being useful later. How many copies would be a good target?

5-8 or so will make her usable. Getting her to max or near max on cost reduction can take between 8 and 20 copies (Baring stupid unluckiness). Here's some of my upgrade info, they're total amount, not amount fed to original copy:

Ada: 18 copies till maxed (Was 4/5 at 15, 3/5 at 8)
Eliza: 11 copies till maxed (Was 4/5 at 9, 3/5 at 7)
Ricca: 8 copies till maxed (Was 4/5 at 5, 3/5 at 4)
Fran: 9 copies till maxed (Was 4/5 at 8, 3/5 at 6)
Chloe: 17 copies till maxed (Was 4/5 at 15, 3/5 at 8)

Azami: 17 copies to 4/5 (Was 4/5 at 16, 3/5 at 5)
Rita: 14 copies to 2/5 (Was 2/5 at 3)
Waltz: 12 copies to 4/5 (Was 4/5 at 12, 3/5 at 7)

Average for -5: 12.6
Average for -4: 11.43
Average for -3: 6.43

All of those incomplete girls would raise the average of max cost reduction considerably (And Rita fucks up everything...). So the average to -5 isn't very accurate. I agree about 12-16 total copies is a "safe" estimate for -4 and possibly -5, while 5-8 as mentioned should get you -3. Skill matters less since you can rainbow fairy it, but it is much more difficult to max. You're likely to get about 6-7/10 skill levels (Or 3-4/5) by the time you reach -4/-5 cost reduction in my experience.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Just popping in to state that the 100/2 with the 5k attack boss was fun.

Spoiler

The boss died faster than Karma. Way faster.
Screw the black knight, you are living in this story line~ (even if technically that's the 2nd try 3 star)