(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

That would simply leave everything on the list and everyone will simply talk about units they hope will be in those ten. Which in itself is a completely different discussion.

Which is exactly what I was asking for, NEVERMIND cause its too difficult for people to discuss the god damn game.

Do i need more than one Themis? I just rolled another one and was thinking of just using the other one to cost reduce the one i have already lved up

Personal preference. I personally enjoy having two princesses at my beck and call, makes certain maps very easy, Phalanax2 for example.

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Which is exactly what I was asking for, NEVERMIND cause its too difficult for people to discuss the god damn game.

No it wasn't. You specifically said speculators. There was nothing to speculate on, and that is what I pointed out. Talking about what units everyone hopes are in those ten units is a completely different thing from speculation. The latter of which isn't about what we hope is there, but what we can guess is there from the information we have access to.

You should really keep calm. It does you no good to get mad over anything. Especially over the internet over a game on a forum because someone pointed something out.

*shrug*

Doesn't matter anyway.

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

No it wasn't. You specifically said speculators. There was nothing to speculate on, and that is what I pointed out. Talking about what units everyone hopes are in those ten units is a completely different thing from speculation. The latter of which isn't about what we hope is there, but what we can guess is there from the information we have access to.

You should really keep calm. It does you no good to get mad over anything. Especially over the internet over a game on a forum because someone pointed something out.

*shrug*

Doesn't matter anyway.

Really? You are arguing over semantics of what word I chose...seriously?
We're done.

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Really? You are arguing over semantics of what word I chose...seriously?
We're done.

*shrug*

Like I said doesn't matter. You cannot stay civil even if this was an argument.

 

[Shurelia]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

sigh just stop the both of you. Do either of you really need to get the last word in...

In hopes to turn this away from that topic anyone have any clue on how hard the last mission of the event will be? Will it require units that have been CC'ed and leveled significantly, or is it easy enough that people that have started recently can beat it provided they play it smartly? The videos don't make it look too hard, but then again the units in the videos seem decently leveled.

Figure if not for my benefit it would be helpful for the others who have just started. I kind of figure that I have a good spread of units, but hopefully it won't need many CC'ed melee units. That's the one portion that I'm weak on right now.

 

[Nirhael]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

sigh just stop the both of you. Do either of you really need to get the last word in...

In hopes to turn this away from that topic anyone have any clue on how hard the last mission of the event will be? Will it require units that have been CC'ed and leveled significantly, or is it easy enough that people that have started recently can beat it provided they play it smartly? The videos don't make it look too hard, but then again the units in the videos seem decently leveled.

Figure if not for my benefit it would be helpful for the others who have just started. I kind of figure that I have a good spread of units, but hopefully it won't need many CC'ed melee units. That's the one portion that I'm weak on right now.

There's a video on the wiki's page that shows the last mission being cleared with nothing but three un-CCed Silver healers (no idea what Affection they're at) and a ton of very low-level Bronzes.

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The whole Event'll be pretty easy really.

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

sigh just stop the both of you. Do either of you really need to get the last word in...

In hopes to turn this away from that topic anyone have any clue on how hard the last mission of the event will be? Will it require units that have been CC'ed and leveled significantly, or is it easy enough that people that have started recently can beat it provided they play it smartly? The videos don't make it look too hard, but then again the units in the videos seem decently leveled.

Figure if not for my benefit it would be helpful for the others who have just started. I kind of figure that I have a good spread of units, but hopefully it won't need many CC'ed melee units. That's the one portion that I'm weak on right now.

He's been ignored by me so no idea what he wrote last, and honestly don't care. See my profile picture.

I don't think there's too much to worry about as far as this event, as I read there were people who completed it with mostly bronze units just to prove it could be done. Of course this depends how they scale our event it might be easier or harder, though if changed I'd expect the former over the latter.

Another reason I don't think you'll have too much of an issue is that we still got quite a few days before the event even starts. If you're worried about not having a decent melee, you can always work on leveling at least one duelist in the time frame we got.

Edit: Nirhael beat me to it

 

[dagonlies88]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Thought that was the question.

For just upping skill level, probably still take Jerome as lowering the cooldown for reinforce3 is still highly useful.

Thanks.

So is it safe to say that duplicate Gold+ non-Soldiers can be fed to RC without needing the skill up?

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Thanks.

So is it safe to say that duplicate Gold+ non-Soldiers can be fed to RC without needing the skill up?

Not sure I'm fully understanding your question.

You'll have a chance for the RC and skill up when using the same unit into itself. You can only get RC by using the same name unit into the same name, so both can happen in the one combine.

Either of them is only a chance, the RC gets harder to accomplish after first and the chance to succeed becomes much lower after that first and for the third. My gold soldier has over 10 attempts for the last RC, and it's failed every time. As to the skill increases there are several ways, including the coveted Rainbow Fairy.

If I'm mistaken by what your asking please clarify.

 

[Nirhael]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Thanks.

So is it safe to say that duplicate Gold+ non-Soldiers can be fed to RC without needing the skill up?

It's more of a case-by-case thing, most of the time though, you'll want to CC your golds and get the extra skill-up chance even if it does "cost" a Silver. At this stage of the game, I'd probably just hold onto the extras and wait for a more comfortable stash of Silvers before spending them so I don't run out of the ones I'd need to CC an Event unit that I want to use immediately or something.

 

[Altrius]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

For the % skill

Regular Unit: 100%, 50%, 25%, 5%
Rainbow Fairy: 100%, 75%, 50%, 25%

Skill 1/5: 2/5, 3/5, 4/5, 5/5
Skill 1/10: 2/10, 3/10-5/10, 6/10-9/10, 10/10
Skill 1/16: 2/16, 3/16-8/16, 9/16-15/16, 16/16

For cost reduction
Iron Unit:
-1: 40%
Bronze Unit:
-1: 50%; -2: 25%
Spica:
-1: 100%; -2: 50%
Silver+ Unit:
-1: 100%; -2: 50%; -3: 25%
Special Unit (e.g. Maribelle):
-1: 100%; -2: 50%; -3: 25%; -4: 25%;
Special Unit (e.g. Odette):
-1: 100%; -2: 50%; -3: 25%; -4: 25%; -5: 25%

By the begining yes keep those gold around unless you get 2 copy of the same, i never find 2 copy of the same is really useful in 1st place unless you lacking that class of unit.
As time goes on gold is like silver you will likely want gold to be cost reduced to -2 at least and have 2-3 lvl skill

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Good info Altrius, might be something clavat_k can add to the original post as well, as it's something everyone eventually will need to know when it comes time to start doing combines for the rarer units.

 

[dagonlies88]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Not sure I'm fully understanding your question.

You'll have a chance for the RC and skill up when using the same unit into itself. You can only get RC by using the same name unit into the same name, so both can happen in the one combine.

Either of them is only a chance, the RC gets harder to accomplish after first and the chance to succeed becomes much lower after that first and for the third. My gold soldier has over 10 attempts for the last RC, and it's failed every time. As to the skill increases there are several ways, including the coveted Rainbow Fairy.

If I'm mistaken by what your asking please clarify.

Sorry if I wasn't very clear.

What I'm trying to get at is that there are some skills that are obviously worth upgrading, such as Soldiers with Reinforcement.

Let's say I have 5 copies of Cyrus, should I save all copies to 30cc and then feed for the cost reduction AND skill upgrade? Or if the skill upgrade isn't very important, maybe it's better to just feed copies for the cost reduction now and save gold/time.

I guess I'm just looking for guidance on what skills gain a lot from being upgraded, apart from Reinforcement?

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Let's say I have 5 copies of Cyrus, should I save all copies to 30cc and then feed for the cost reduction AND skill upgrade? Or if the skill upgrade isn't very important, maybe it's better to just feed copies for the cost reduction now and save gold/time.

I guess I'm just looking for guidance on what skills gain a lot from being upgraded, apart from Reinforcement?

I do hope you're not getting the "extras" to level 30 or CC'ing them as its a pretty big waste to do so. Also don't CC a unit you plan to keep, until they are level 50 or whatever their current level cap is.

As to other skills, with the units we currently have, I don't see any that are just "wow" when i see em outside of Soldiers. I suppose there could be cases made for say Barbasstroff or the like where range is their defining skill, and each increase can make changes to any given maps strategy. Falls to preference here.

Here's something to consider, CR does not reset, skill ability does (was kinda hoping that's a bug). So if you have the extras to try and CR, the earlier the better IMO. The benefit is instant, and the CR will last as long as you keep the character, no matter CC, or Empower. It also makes a mediocre unit into awesome. Most people shrug at a bronze for example, but a 4 to cost soldier is pretty nice for some maps.

Food for thought.

 

[Altrius]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Time for more info for ppl to get confirmation.
Now then we all know that if you combine the same unit we got a cost reduction / skill lvl up but how this actualy work?
1st cost reduction: To get cost reduction you need to feed the same unit, this also can work when you already CC a unit and feed them a non-CC of the same unit. If you already cost reduce a unit before you CC them and then when you CC them the current Cost reduction will also apply.

2nd Skill up: Unlike cost reduction skill lv-ed up if you feed them a unit with the same skill. If the unit you going to CC doesn't change in their skill then their skill lvl will be kept even they are CC-ed. So this mean when your unit skill changed like from atk3 --> atk4 the skill lvl will reset to 1, hence why ppl said if you wanna feed duplicate CC them 1st until they have the same skill.
*Important*: as i post earlier its not gonna be 100% that they will get skill lvl / cost reduction from 2nd duplicate onward, it still fresh there already ppl screaming in JP forum 1 that their Luciele still on CR-2 (max-5) / skill 6/10 and alot of time nothing got increased

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

2nd Skill up: Unlike cost reduction skill lv-ed up if you feed them a unit with the same skill. If the unit you going to CC doesn't change in their skill then their skill lvl will be kept even they are CC-ed. So this mean when your unit skill changed like from atk3 --> atk4 the skill lvl will reset to 1, hence why ppl said if you wanna feed duplicate CC them 1st until they have the same skill.
*Important*: as i post earlier its not gonna be 100% that they will get skill lvl / cost reduction from 2nd duplicate onward, it still fresh there already ppl screaming in JP forum 1 that their Luciele still on CR-2 (max-5) / skill 6/10 and alot of time nothing got increased

I may have found a bug then, thanks for the clarification. My Jerome was initially a skill of lvl3 before CC, when he got CC'ed he went back to 1. I used a Rainbow fairy to bump him back up to 2. His skill does not change after CC, as it remains call reinforcements 3.

 

[Altrius]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I may have found a bug then, thanks for the clarification. My Jerome was initially a skill of lvl3 before CC, when he got CC'ed he went back to 1. I used a Rainbow fairy to bump him back up to 2. His skill does not change after CC, as it remains call reinforcements 3.

Hmm.. thats is strange, I also already feeding soma duplicate before CC and she retain them, same goes for my JP zora a gold unit.
If anyone got confirmation on this please share it

i dun't know if i should be happy or not, I was reading this today:

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and guess what i got after i tried to do premium summon *2nd copy and i was already happy with the platinum colour*
Edit: o well atk4 lvl 2 = 1.5x dmg i guss I'm happy

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I've had some keep there Skill bonus on CC, but I noticed it on Jerome cause I had worked to raise his skill level and get max reduced cost. Never did get him fully reduced, but he's had probably 6 or so put into him over all. My soldiers were the last units I CC'ed because I wanted them CR'ed prior to the CC to keep the unit cost that comes with it to a minimum.

@Altrius, So much hate for my beloved units /cry
Tell em to get their own and leave my stuff alone

 

[Altrius]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

@Altrius, So much hate for my beloved units /cry
Tell em to get their own and leave my stuff alone

Tell them to start spending money
Personaly i like my luck here better than in JP 1, i remember how i start with 0 platinum / black unit, and you know its my first time how many time i make mistake and about to rage quit.
But well the event is so friendly that i still stick to it and now im having fun, although as time goes on i felt its kinda already too powerful now that take away all the fun.
For this im glad there EN version i can actualy experience this from the very begining i dun't need powerful unit btw i say event unit will get you just fine till the end

PS: I'm also part of faction that hate lucky ppl (peace)................... jk jk

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

From what I hear, it's entirely possible to complete all content with nothing above a silver. If sheer challenge is what you want, stick with those and bronze.

Though to be fair, as even the game Devs have stated, higher rarity isn't with out its caveats. The additional cost really does balance many of the units out, and gives a good reason to keep lower cost / lower rarity units around.

That's one of the reasons I will probably end up dropping Despara from my primary group, it's starting to get too top end heavy, and the cost is now noticeable on many maps especially rush. So this event unit next week will likely replace her for that reason, doesn't mean she wont see play or get leveled it just means there are better choices for the primary team. Special maps like War of Magic will almost certainly see her used.

Eventually the team will fall to the following structure:
-4 Black
-5 Platinum
-6 Gold

I have some low cost golds (EX: Betty) that can replace other units for those maps that need units out quickly.

PS: I'm also part of faction that hate lucky ppl (peace)................... jk jk

I know you are not calling me lucky, no one would do that as even probability wise my luck is horrid.