(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

At minimum, there's one person I'm 99% sure of cheated, unless every single 2k roll they've ever made gave them a Silver or Gold unit, which is... somewhat possible, but rather improbable.

And then there's the test accounts I've made to poke at security.

Now before anything else, I'll state that my main account is 100% clean.

But yes, I've made accounts to poke around and see how well the banning worked (because I really hate paying and playing alongside cheaters), if it weren't working well enough I figured I'd just go back to the Japanese version. But anyway, out of those accounts, one of those is still completely untouched, so yeah... I don't like it, I wish it were banned so I could purchase some Crystals without constantly thinking about how cheaters can get the same thing at no cost.

Well, that's just me I guess, maybe others don't care about cheaters.

Maybe its just me, but I fail to see why you feel so strongly about this.

To me, its the same as me getting mad at *SybillaISsoCUTE because she got Sybilla as a freemium, and I had to pay 1.5k to see my first. Things can be gotten completely free in the game that someone had to pay for. That's not exactly "fair" is it?

Cheating is by all accounts the same thing, they got something for nothing. The difference between them, a cheater only affects the company we should be supporting where as good luck entices more people to play and take their chance with the dice.

I guess my point is, some person could have cheated their ass off, but if they didn't tell you, how would you know? How does it detract from your game play? What map did it keep you from completing or finishing an event? Do my characters who were bought legitimately some how effect you? I don't see any logic to a "yes" to that question. As currently there is no way for any one account to affect another. There's no trading, there's no pvp there's literally nothing in the game that shows "hey other players play this game".

Again, I'm by no means in support of cheating (I'm firmly against as someone who spent quite a bit), and I understand the need for its removal (it hurts the bottom line of a business), but I am not able to understand how this is any way affects you.

* I use SybillaISsoCUTE as an example as the devils luck is with em, but there is no way I could ever begrudge that. The only thing I can say when someone has awesome rolls like that is, "Grats!".

Will there ever be a time when you need more than 2 healers in a map?

I do for Immortal Beast all the time. But that's because I tend to use princesses as my lightning rod.
Not sure if others needed to have 3 healers for the map to three star or not, I did though.
I have heard in later events and such 3 are needed for some maps, though a JP player would have more insight then myself.

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Will there ever be a time when you need more than 2 healers in a map?

There will be maps you need three

Is Minvera now available in gacha or is that just a tease?

Most likely a tease seeing as I believe there is a pirate introduction event so she would be put in with that most likely.

Simple, if i go for Chydis now, i will need to gather Crystals for a month again, and also forced to Level up Daniela, who i do not want to use, since i need 2 nd archer.

Your demoness didn't give you a higher archer did she?

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It affects his self satisfaction of completely anything in the game. As someone else just simply cheated to do what he worked hard to do. Even a freemium player had to work hard. Even if they got lucky. While a person using cheat engine could have literally had all the units in-game a max level day one if they were lucky enough with the rolls.

 

[SybillaISsoCUTE]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Your demoness didn't give you a higher archer did she?

She provided me with princesses mages rouges and some HA too, cant get everything out of 14-16 total rolls

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

It affects his self satisfaction of completely anything in the game. As someone else just simply cheated to do what he worked hard to do. Even a freemium player had to work hard. Even if they got lucky. While a person using cheat engine could have literally had all the units in-game a max level day one if they were lucky enough with the rolls.

I still fail to see how this has any affect on them.
When you 3 star immortal beat with your own team that you worked hard for, do you feel less satisfaction having completed it? I wouldn't, because I earned it. I completed it due to my work, my units, my strategy and above all my own patience. To me there is simply nothing another player can hope to do that can take something away from my achievements. Granted I have an unusually high threshold to ignore others opinions (as you are already aware Laf), especially if those opinions are of me. I simply don't care what others think, never have (and being almost 40) never will.

Jealous about having an easier time, maybe? It just means they quit playing sooner. It still took nothing from me.

I think I kinda get what some here are saying at least, but to me it just doesn't make much sense. Different strokes as they say and they are more then welcome to voice it, diversity as you said is key, even among players.

 

[SnowSakura]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

It is fun playing a tower defense again, haven't played any since defense grid and all of the really good ones on the warcraft 3 custom maps, although it's a bit weird to place units in the actual lanes, still haven't gotten used to that yet

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I think I kinda get what some here are saying at least, but to me it just doesn't make much sense. Different strokes as they say and they are more then welcome to voice it, diversity as you said is key, even among players.

Very true. It won't matter to you if someone cheated. Likewise it won't matter to me either(despite my dislike of them) as I'm here to converse with those that play this game, potential share strategies, and help newbies. For others however it isn't Jealousy. If anything they would be more Jealous of you or Sybilla. The issue for them is that their accomplishment feels diminished when someone else cheated to do it. It cheapens the experience for them.

Hmm... Time to move on to some other topic what shall it be.

Maybe they should add some mutliplayer components. Not exactly PvP, but maybe a visible leaderboard?

It is fun playing a tower defense again, haven't played any since defense grid and all of the really good ones on the warcraft 3 custom maps, although it's a bit weird to place units in the actual lanes, still haven't gotten used to that yet

Yes Tower Defense is a very fun genre. However you tried the starcraft 2 free arcade? There are many tower defense games there.

 

[SnowSakura]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Very true. It won't matter to you if someone cheated. Likewise it won't matter to me either(despite my dislike of them) as I'm here to converse with those that play this game, potential share strategies, and help newbies. For others however it isn't Jealousy. If anything they would be more Jealous of you or Sybilla. The issue for them is that their accomplishment feels diminished when someone else cheated to do it. It cheapens the experience for them.

Hmm... Time to move on to some other topic what shall it be.

Maybe they should add some mutliplayer components. Not exactly PvP, but maybe a visible leaderboard?

If there were any type of multiplayer elements, I'd at least like to see a friends list.

Yes Tower Defense is a very fun genre. However you tried the starcraft 2 free arcade? There are many tower defense games there.

No I haven't played starcraft 2, I've only played warcraft 2,3 and world of warcraft from the blizzard series. As an rts is starcraft 2 as good as the warcraft series? The only other RTS I've played aside from those is universal war on the 360 and the prequel on the dreamcast and the older command and conquer titles

 

[Nirhael]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Well there really is no point in dragging the subject, I did state that it was my personal opinion and I'm sure others don't care about cheaters, it just bugs me and we can leave it at that.

Despite all my complaining though, I'm pretty sure I'll drop at least 100$ over and do a few rolls, hopefully I'll get some of the units I want. Obviously I'd be happy with a Black, but realistically I'm hoping for Cellia/Betty/Cuterie, really want those drop-boosters and gold-farmers.

I'll probably end up getting nothing but Conrads though.

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

No I haven't played starcraft 2, I've only played warcraft 2,3 and world of warcraft from the blizzard series. As an rts is starcraft 2 as good as the warcraft series? The only other RTS I've played aside from those is universal war on the 360 and the prequel on the dreamcast and the older command and conquer titles

Yes, Starcraft is a good RTS. Best of all you don't have to pay for all the Arcade stuff that would include all the player made maps SC2=WC3 in terms of that.

 

[SnowSakura]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Ah okay, do most people during events skip doing the event on mondays for that daily? I was thinking of skipping the event on monday since I need platinum armors and more money

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Maybe they should add some mutliplayer components. Not exactly PvP, but maybe a visible leaderboard?

I actually though about this at one point.
It is possible to add a pvp type element with out it ever actually being true PvP.

To explain:

Spoiler

Imagine you are able to make a team of just 5 units (no repeats). This team can be any units you currently have. Each unit is given a numerical challenge amount. The game takes those 5 units and sends them in on a random map, in random order and random amounts of total units depending on desired challenge (based on a rating amount for those units or total challenge level). The player of course uses their full team just as they always do, and hope to survive the onslaught.

You then gain ranking and even some sort of bonus (crystals as an example) to get units based on how well you do. The though process behind this is similar to the event endurance maps 100unit - 500unit ect. This would simply be on a much smaller scale.

In theory, no matter how strong the opponent may be, with a full team and proper strategy you can beat them. The mechanics outside of having a 5 man team for each player is already there, so it wouldn't be difficult to accomplish.

And to keep it simple, you'd even have choices whom you face like LoV, so you don't just get nothing but hard maps you actually get choices based on what you have, and the desired challenge level.

Anyways, just something I thought about

I don't find it necessary of course, but it would be something extra to achieve.

Well there really is no point in dragging the subject, I did state that it was my personal opinion and I'm sure others don't care about cheaters, it just bugs me and we can leave it at that.

Despite all my complaining though, I'm pretty sure I'll drop at least 100$ over and do a few rolls, hopefully I'll get some of the units I want. Obviously I'd be happy with a Black, but realistically I'm hoping for Cellia/Betty/Cuterie, really want those drop-boosters and gold-farmers.

I'll probably end up getting nothing but Conrads though.

No harm no foul, was just curious is all. And they bug me, just for a different reason. I paid they didn't.
Conrad......Ewww, now that would be the worst streak ever, anywhere. There's more than just "Goddess Hate" going on if that happens.

Ah okay, do most people during events skip doing the event on mondays for that daily? I was thinking of skipping the event on monday since I need platinum armors and more money

A lot of folks will still do Mondays daily, as its one of the most important during the week. If you are in need of coin, then do not skip it, as its going to be needed more often than not.

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Ah okay, do most people during events skip doing the event on mondays for that daily? I was thinking of skipping the event on monday since I need platinum armors and more money

Yes most skip Monday and Thursday at current. I may be skipping Wednesday as well depending on how many silvers I actually get to drop from this event.

I actually though about this at one point.
It is possible to add a pvp type element with out it ever actually being true PvP.

To explain:

Spoiler

Imagine you are able to make a team of just 5 units (no repeats). This team can be any units you currently have. Each unit is given a numerical challenge amount. The game takes those 5 units and sends them in on a random map, in random order and random amounts of total units depending on desired challenge (based on a rating amount for those units or total challenge level). The player of course uses their full team just as they always do, and hope to survive the onslaught.

You then gain ranking and even some sort of bonus (crystals as an example) to get units based on how well you do. The though process behind this is similar to the event endurance maps 100unit - 500unit ect. This would simply be on a much smaller scale.

In theory, no matter how strong the opponent may be, with a full team and proper strategy you can beat them. The mechanics outside of having a 5 man team for each player is already there, so it wouldn't be difficult to accomplish.

Anyways, just something I thought about

I don't find it necessary of course, but it would be something extra to achieve.

That would be actually quite fun.

 

[exkale]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Will there ever be a time when you need more than 2 healers in a map?

Here is a more recent example from the Japanese version:

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This is the second of the new story missions recently released.

This player is using 4 healers in this strategy because there's a limit to how high a silver-grade healer can heal and Leanne is taking a lot of damage. It can be done with fewer healers if your other healers are very good and you have good tanks. In my case, I can do it with 2 healers because I have 1 very good tank, 1 decent tank, and a lot of good healers at my disposal. Even though I can clear the mission easily, it can still be difficult to get 3-stars if you miss timings (defense buffs and avoiding tengu attacks)

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There are some event missions that I was able to clear because I brought 3~4 healers when I was still leveling up my units past 50CC30.

 

[SnowSakura]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Yes most skip Monday and Thursday at current. I may be skipping Wednesday as well depending on how many silvers I actually get to drop from this event.



That would be actually quite fun.

Ah okay, thanks both of you, I'm not doing either of the spirit rescue or gem dailies until I have a higher amount of stamina so I'll be avoiding those until way after 120

 

[Nirhael]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

No harm no foul, was just curious is all.
Ewww, now that would be the worst streak ever, anywhere. There's more than just "Goddess Hate" going on if that happens.

Oh I know you don't mean any harm, I just don't feel like there's any benefit to derailing the thread over this.

Yes most skip Monday and Thursday at current. I may be skipping Wednesday as well depending on how many silvers I actually get to drop from this event.

Gotta hunt early and hoard while we still can!

Spoiler

 

[SnowSakura]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Oh I know you don't mean any harm, I just don't feel like there's any benefit to derailing the thread over this.



Gotta hunt early and hoard while we still can!

Spoiler

Now that makes me jealous how many affection items you have

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Oh I know you don't mean any harm, I just don't feel like there's any benefit to derailing the thread over this.



Gotta hunt early and hoard while we still can!

Spoiler

Now I know you have some girls that feel neglected... why you no give them gifts D:

 

[SnowSakura]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Now I know you have some girls that feel neglected... why you no give them gifts D:

I'm always out of affection items, use them as soon as I get them for the stat bonuses, it's possible all of their characters are at max affection

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I'm always out of affection items, use them as soon as I get them for the stat bonuses, it's possible all of their characters are at max affection

I've been playing since day one, and I'm no where even close to maxing the affection out on all my girls (I only use one of each). What he has there is a good 4-5 100% happy girls.

 

[broken_wings]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Ah okay, do most people during events skip doing the event on mondays for that daily? I was thinking of skipping the event on monday since I need platinum armors and more money

actually the thurs and monday dailies would be the last ones to be skipped out of all the dailies from what i can tell since demon crystals and platinum armors will be useful 100% of the time, but it really depends on the event
like this particular one coming is a star trial, which means you only need to do each map until you gain enough total stars to be satisfied, this kind of event is easy enough to do only during the weekends when nothing else special is happening
that is unless a particular map has a drop chance for a silver unit you would want (i think they're usually 8% chance for silver drops per map) but that could be farmed leisurely too