(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Nirhael]

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Is there a guide for a suggested layout for Dragon Hunting? I can do Tower Overwatch with just 4 units - Daniela, Soma, Mehlis and the Prince.

I'm only level 92 so getting more levels isn't a bad thing...

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[krisslanza]

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Wow. I didn't expect it'd be even easier to AFK then Tower Overwatch.

 

[Xovian]

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Well that made for an interesting experience.
Decided to go ahead and get Spica (3rd archer) as I've given myself a new challenge to try. Second Spica combine failed both the skill up and the CR. So yay for finally "needing" to use crystals to buy more DC runs.. bleh. Her 3rd combine got her fully CR'ed, only 2/5 skill though. Just need to level her up a bit more, only CC48 (100% affection though) thus far.

At any rate, given my previous conversations of X unit type (melee physical ect) i decided to make a team that follows a specific set of rules for awhile. The "Law of 3". Which is, having no more & no less for each type then 3. The challenge/goal is to complete all non-"challenge mission" maps with this set up, which includes current and future events. Gonna see how long i can go before i get to a map that i can not complete. Probably picked a bad time for this, but just doing Karma event is too boring for me, so needed to spice it up a bit.

Back to the Karma grind i guess, well once i get more Stamina anyways.

 

[Altrius]

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If karma event grinding is boring what about me -.-
JP aigis is also item collection event

Well not like i can 3 star the last map in JP aigis.... since they decided to bring out the beast again (boss enemy with 4000 atk / yes not many unit can survive its 1 hit (i have none of this unit), but pretty slow healer can do 2 heal before he hit)
PS: now i remember what i hate about old collecton event..... there no additional reward for doing the item collection event -.-

Ex: additional prize in nowday JP event (effected on collection event with same prize)....

Spoiler

Additional Rewards:
45: Gold Armour
90: Gold Fairy
135: Platinum Armour
180: Gold Fairy
225: Crystal Fragment
270: Platinum Fairy
315: Gold Armour
360: Platinum Fairy
405: Platinum Armour
450: Black Fairy
495: Crystal Fragment
540: Black Fairy
585: Gold Armour
630: Rainbow Fairy
675: Platinum Armour
720: Platinum Fairy
765: Crystal Fragment x2
810: Platinum Fairy
855: Gold Armour
900: Black Fairy
945: Platinum Armour
990: Platinum Fairy
1035: Crystal Fragment x2
1080: Platinum Fairy
1125: Gold Armour
1170: Black Fairy
1215: Platinum Armour
1260: Black Fairy
1305: Crystal Fragment x3
1350: Rainbow Fairy
1395: Gold Armour
1440: Platinum Fairy
1485: Platinum Armour

1530: Platinum Fairy
1575: Crystal Fragment x3

1620: Black Fairy
1665: Gold Armour
1710: Black Fairy
1755: Platinum Armour
1800: Rainbow Fairy

 

[Nirhael]

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If karma event grinding is boring what about me -.-
JP aigis is also item collection event

Well not like i can 3 star the last map in JP aigis.... since they decided to bring out the beast again (boss enemy with 4000 atk / yes not many unit can survive its 1 hit (i have none of this unit), but pretty slow healer can do 2 heal before he hit)
PS: now i remember what i hate about old collecton event..... there no additional reward for doing the item collection event -.-

Ex: additional prize in nowday JP event (effected on collection event with same prize)....

Spoiler

Additional Rewards:
45: Gold Armour
90: Gold Fairy
135: Platinum Armour
180: Gold Fairy
225: Crystal Fragment
270: Platinum Fairy
315: Gold Armour
360: Platinum Fairy
405: Platinum Armour
450: Black Fairy
495: Crystal Fragment
540: Black Fairy
585: Gold Armour
630: Rainbow Fairy
675: Platinum Armour
720: Platinum Fairy
765: Crystal Fragment x2
810: Platinum Fairy
855: Gold Armour
900: Black Fairy
945: Platinum Armour
990: Platinum Fairy
1035: Crystal Fragment x2
1080: Platinum Fairy
1125: Gold Armour
1170: Black Fairy
1215: Platinum Armour
1260: Black Fairy
1305: Crystal Fragment x3
1350: Rainbow Fairy
1395: Gold Armour
1440: Platinum Fairy
1485: Platinum Armour

1530: Platinum Fairy
1575: Crystal Fragment x3

1620: Black Fairy
1665: Gold Armour
1710: Black Fairy
1755: Platinum Armour
1800: Rainbow Fairy

... oh yeah, no wonder, I was wondering why I was starving for Black Fairies, I thought it was just the lack of 100/2 maps and fewer Events, completely forgot about these.

 

[Xovian]

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PS: now i remember what i hate about old collecton event..... there no additional reward for doing the item collection event -.-

Ex: additional prize in nowday JP event (effected on collection event with same prize)....

Spoiler

Additional Rewards:
45: Gold Armour
90: Gold Fairy
135: Platinum Armour
180: Gold Fairy
225: Crystal Fragment
270: Platinum Fairy
315: Gold Armour
360: Platinum Fairy
405: Platinum Armour
450: Black Fairy
495: Crystal Fragment
540: Black Fairy
585: Gold Armour
630: Rainbow Fairy
675: Platinum Armour
720: Platinum Fairy
765: Crystal Fragment x2
810: Platinum Fairy
855: Gold Armour
900: Black Fairy
945: Platinum Armour
990: Platinum Fairy
1035: Crystal Fragment x2
1080: Platinum Fairy
1125: Gold Armour
1170: Black Fairy
1215: Platinum Armour
1260: Black Fairy
1305: Crystal Fragment x3
1350: Rainbow Fairy
1395: Gold Armour
1440: Platinum Fairy
1485: Platinum Armour

1530: Platinum Fairy
1575: Crystal Fragment x3

1620: Black Fairy
1665: Gold Armour
1710: Black Fairy
1755: Platinum Armour
1800: Rainbow Fairy

Wow. If we had these types of rewards along with the collection for the unit, I'm sure a lot more people would be trying to perfect her. People would be more excited about this type of event to be sure. Our's is kinda...meh. The unit itself is worth it, but some nice bonuses would be nice too.

 

[Nirhael]

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Wow. If we had these types of rewards along with the collection for the unit, I'm sure a lot more people would be trying to perfect her. People would be more excited about this type of event to be sure. Our's is kinda...meh. The unit itself is worth it, but some nice bonuses would be nice too.

Well it's the very first collection Event and there are many flaws, one of which being the 250 minimum to even get Karma.

 

[Xovian]

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Well it's the very first collection Event and there are many flaws, one of which being the 250 minimum to even get Karma.

I'll admit I was a bit surprised by the amount to even get her. It basically invalidates the ability for newer players to have high hopes of getting her, much less reducing her. It's one thing if you only have a 50% chance or less for the 10x drops, but it's a whole different issues when you can only do maps and it's lucky to see that single serum drop.

Though to be fair, with a months time from last event to now there was quite a bit of time for people to work on the power of their units. Only the newest players should really be struggling due to unit levels given the amount of down time we had. Just my opinion though.

 

[Prototype909]

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Well it's the very first collection Event and there are many flaws, one of which being the 250 minimum to even get Karma.

Well it is the first chance to obtain a (normal cost) princess type unit, and one that can be black rarity/strength at that. The "floor" is higher, but the ceiling is lower. I'd much rather have a 250 starting point than a say 1500 ending point because it makes you have to spend that much more to reach a perfect unit. Having the lower reward floor only helps new players, having a high ceiling hurts both new and old players.

Unless you just recently started the only way you could be unprepared for this is if you don't regularly play, and if that's the case it's not the game's fault. There are videos of people clearing this event with as few as two CC'd units (according to Lafate when someone brought this up on a different forum). The three weeks downtime between this and the previous event was more than enough prep time for people who joined during or slightly before the Maribel event, and if you joined before even that like Aria/Echidna timeframe even less excuse.

 

[Nirhael]

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Well it is the first chance to obtain a (normal cost) princess type unit, and one that can be black rarity/strength at that. The "floor" is higher, but the ceiling is lower. I'd much rather have a 250 starting point than a say 1500 ending point because it makes you have to spend that much more to reach a perfect unit. Having the lower reward floor only helps new players, having a high ceiling hurts both new and old players.

While the points you bring up are true, it's a fact that Karma's Event design was badly done and too punishing to newer players. Every other collection Events would give you the unit with just 25(30 for Ren's) of the collectible baubles so even a newbie could get something at least. It's quite important to cater to newer players too to entice them into playing, otherwise Aigis' community would just stagnate with a bunch of veterans and only a handful of newer players every blue Moon.

And I'm seriously curious to know how someone managed to clear this Event with just two CCed units, unless it's two Nanally/they don't count no-CC units like Princesses.

 

[Lafate]

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Karma's Event design was badly done.

Wait until Lians

*Queue Hikarasu*

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THE DEMONESS SHALL HAVE ALL YOUR CRYSTALS!

AND WHEN THEY ARE GONE SHE WILL MAKE YOU GET MORE AND TAKE THOSE TOO!

 

[toodledoo]

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There are videos of people clearing this event with as few as two CC'd units (according to Lafate when someone brought this up on a different forum). The three weeks downtime between this and the previous event was more than enough prep time for people who joined during or slightly before the Maribel event, and if you joined before even that like Aria/Echidna timeframe even less excuse.

Could you link me some videos of people clearing the final map with no CC'd units and no gacha units?

I'd love to see it.

I find your last few sentences to be totally off-base, unless I'm literally retarded and blind. I've been playing pretty actively since just before the end of Anya's event, with a perfect maribel, more or less 2x CC'd of each class, a black rogue, and other units... and the final two maps of this event are very teetering on the 'possible' for my team. Someone starting during the maribel event or after would be totally and utterly shafted trying to fight any of the latter maps in this event.

I understand all the veterans who've been playing since launch with level 150+ and 50 units all 50CCMax'd are drearily bored and find every event trivialized, but yeah, people who "Starter during Maribel's event" would be hopelessly outclassed in this event.

 

[Nirhael]

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So I was digging through the Event archives, trying to see what we might get next and just realized that Karma's truly was the difficulty spike Event.

Originally, things went like this:

1. Chloris.
2. Aria/Dorania.
3. Belinda.
4. Gold Rush I.
5. Demon Crystal introduction(Warriors of the East).
6. Maribel.
7. Echidna/Anya.
8. Daily Mission 1.5x drop rate(not really an Event).
9. Odette.
10. Karma.

Do take a look at

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to judge the difficulty of the final map of Odette's Event, it's quite silly. I really don't think Odette's Event would've prepared people for Karma's properly, though having her probably would've made some parts easier.

I understand all the veterans who've been playing since launch with level 150+ and 50 units all 50CCMax'd are drearily bored and find every event trivialized, but yeah, people who "Starter during Maribel's event" would be hopelessly outclassed in this event.

I'm going to state that, despite being 148 and nearly 149 with a fairly well-leveled team, I've still had some trouble with this Event, mainly on the last map. It's pretty brutal if you don't use the cookie-cutter strategy and/or have cheat units, it actually gave me pause and made me wonder how I'd be able to tackle future Events if they'd be on the same scale.

Then I checked some other Event videos and remembered that Karma's was just a big mess.

 

[Xovian]

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I understand all the veterans who've been playing since launch with level 150+ and 50 units all 50CCMax'd are drearily bored and find every event trivialized, but yeah, people who "Starter during Maribel's event" would be hopelessly outclassed in this event.

Just something of note about your statement.

1st and foremost, most people are not me.
Do not compare "veteran" players to the "one off" player who happens to have maxed their level and units. That is an exception and not the rule. I've not see one other person say, show or other wise indicate they have a max level team. Bottom line, do NOT compare veteran players to a single player. It's not fair to lump everyone in with a gross generalization based off one (or even a handful of) player (s).

2ndly: If you think even I had an "easy" time with the event, then you are mistaken, my blind run videos were not run once and 3 star by any means. Even if prepared by doing research each player is still going to have to adapt to the map based on what they have and the level of their units. Even well established teams will be tested with this event, and have been. No one here is saying this event is a walk in the park. Those that didn't repeat some of the harder event maps did their research first so as not to waste cha/sta. Perfectly viable way of doing things, doesn't mean it was easy.

Finally: Keep in mind people can and do level at different speeds. A lot of this, when it comes down to it, is how often are you doing dailies? They severely hamper unit and player growth. It's meant to. Level up player/units, or work on those dailies & challenge mission maps for fairies and affection items? Depending what a player chooses to do can drastically alter the players units and their level even if they started playing at the same time. Not to mention there are plenty of players that hate grinding unit or player levels.

I'm going to state that, despite being 148 and nearly 149 with a fairly well-leveled team, I've still had some trouble with this Event, mainly on the last map. It's pretty brutal if you don't use the cookie-cutter strategy and/or have cheat units, it actually gave me pause and made me wonder how I'd be able to tackle future Events if they'd be on the same scale.

^ Is the reason I make the video's I do. Even though I tend to get flak for it. No they aren't going to show people how to take the lowest level units and beat a map or even beat the maps with an average team. However it WILL show people that even with cheat units (black), max level player/units what to expect as far as difficulty. If a player who sees no other video then mine, they will know with out a doubt 2 of the maps for this event are going to be hard. That's why I decided to show my blind runs and not just a "perfect run" after the maps had been beaten and a strategy made.

 

[Gromelon]

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I find your last few sentences to be totally off-base, unless I'm literally retarded and blind. I've been playing pretty actively since just before the end of Anya's event, with a perfect maribel, more or less 2x CC'd of each class, a black rogue, and other units... and the final two maps of this event are very teetering on the 'possible' for my team. Someone starting during the maribel event or after would be totally and utterly shafted trying to fight any of the latter maps in this event.

It's not that bad. Last map is designed in such a way that you don't actually need to 3* it for serum farming. Just kill the vamps and you're good. Main difficulty is wolfs, but letting some of them go away is totally fine - they don't drop anything. Leeanne drops from last black armor, and Christopher were eaten by a Lich.

So while it is really hard for newer player to 3* last map, it is not impossible to successfully farm it and get Immortal+ Karma. 10 Life Points are there for a reason.

In fact, if you'll look at DMM Aigis, events are made in such a way that getting 3* on all maps are often next to impossible for all but top players with insane amount of different maxed units. And even they have to think hard. Such maps are just made as a challenge.

 

[Altrius]

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Since someone complaining and another mention JP dmm event here i will give you an info why some map in JP dmm aigis is impossible to 3 star all map for ppl who don't have specific unit even their team is awakened (Current event)

Spoiler

Our god tier map just released another golem.
This golem status: 40,000 hp / 4100 atk / 2000 def / 50MR

Here a list of data a unit that able to endure that 1 hit
Units that can Endure 4.1k Damage at AWMax:
Platinum Heavy Armour Jelius (3978HP; 576DF)
Black Heavy Armour Dina (3874HP; 624DF)
Black Heavy Armour Dine (3696HP; 816DF)
***196 Prince + HP+10% Buff***
Platinum Heavy Armour Miranda (3372HP; 572DF)
Black Mage Armour Grace (3400HP; 602DF)
***196 Prince + HP+14% Buff***
Black Dragon Princess Anya (3029; 627DF)
***196 Prince + HP+24% Buff***
Platinum Dragon Rider Lucille
Platinum Dragon Rider Erenia
Gold Dragon Rider Abel
Black Dark Fighter Cornelia
Platinum Bandit Lyra
Platinum Bandit Seria
Platinum Bandit Imelia (Not Including Own +10% Buff)
Platinum Bandit Rorone

Reminder AW 90 Platinum require 107,334 exp (thats around 13 plat cans)
AW 99 Black require 145,967 exp (around 18 plat cans)
Not many ppl event bother max LV their AW at most only up to lvl 60.
HP buff from AW ability only come from premium gacha roll unit.

PS: bursting the golem down is out of question, and there also another enemy wave need to be taken care of, specialy noted the dark elf avenger a little mistake and he will 1 shoot your unit and manticore who paralyst and walk straight trough you if dont have at least 2 unit blocking it (or kill it before it run to you)

 

[Lafate]

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And that is the difficulty we will eventually get to... Can't wait to see the rage it will bring.

 

[dartred]

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do you mean rage?

 

[Lafate]

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Yes... It is one in the morning and I am sick.... I can make mistakes *whistles*

 

[Slurm09]

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Did a little Premium Summoning and got a second Gellius. Should I combine them or keep them separate?

I have to say I got a nice haul and am thankful for that fact.