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Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game
you need a lot of synergy for someone with a raw base atk of 1.1k?
towa-kikyo-uzume/leora-prince + normal skill makes her way over 2k, SAW over 2.5k.
you need a lot of synergy for someone with a raw base atk of 1.1k?
towa-kikyo-uzume/leora-prince + normal skill makes her way over 2k, SAW over 2.5k.
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Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game
new map is pretty funny
cait sith asked if Solano was the prince.
Solano: But i'm obviously female!!?
cait sith just told solano that she's best off contracting with a slime (or something like that) xD
new map is pretty funny
cait sith asked if Solano was the prince.
Solano: But i'm obviously female!!?
cait sith just told solano that she's best off contracting with a slime (or something like that) xD
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*sigh*
I finally got something out of the gacha after I threw all the SCs I got from the new revival onto the altar, and it's Leora. Let's put aside my recent experience of wasting nearly 150 SCs without a single worthwhile pull making me want to throw my tablet at the wall and quit Aigis for good and let me ask one simple question: is there any point to her besides her passive buff?
For ramping my mincost Helena works much better, her SAW is neat but can only be used once, and her normal skill looks complete trash to me. Losing the ability to time skill-activations is an absolute deal-breaker and makes me wonder just what the hell the devs were smoking when they came up with such a monumentally stupid idea.
*sigh*
I finally got something out of the gacha after I threw all the SCs I got from the new revival onto the altar, and it's Leora. Let's put aside my recent experience of wasting nearly 150 SCs without a single worthwhile pull making me want to throw my tablet at the wall and quit Aigis for good and let me ask one simple question: is there any point to her besides her passive buff?
For ramping my mincost Helena works much better, her SAW is neat but can only be used once, and her normal skill looks complete trash to me. Losing the ability to time skill-activations is an absolute deal-breaker and makes me wonder just what the hell the devs were smoking when they came up with such a monumentally stupid idea.
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I think she's must-have unit for any AFK grinding. Having skills shoot off randomly is much better than not having them shoot off at all.
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But if you can AFK a map, then you don't need any skill to trigger to begin with! That's what AFK-ing means! If your team cannot beat a map without skill-activations then you are not AFK-ing, and in that case she will do you more harm than good by shooting off the skills of your units!
The only time I can even remotely imagine her "gimmick" being the least bit useful is during the very early stages of a subjugation map, where her auto-trigger can help with the early ramp, but after that point she is just a liability.
But if you can AFK a map, then you don't need any skill to trigger to begin with! That's what AFK-ing means! If your team cannot beat a map without skill-activations then you are not AFK-ing, and in that case she will do you more harm than good by shooting off the skills of your units!
The only time I can even remotely imagine her "gimmick" being the least bit useful is during the very early stages of a subjugation map, where her auto-trigger can help with the early ramp, but after that point she is just a liability.
Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game
I somewhat agree that being able to reliably afk a map with automatic non-permanent skill activations probably means u can afk it without skills at all.
But she is a fun unit regardless
I somewhat agree that being able to reliably afk a map with automatic non-permanent skill activations probably means u can afk it without skills at all.
But she is a fun unit regardless
Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game
At last, after heaps of imperial silvers I got black heavy artillery Elmira
Well, I like her art, but it seems it is rather weak black. As tank Elmira has mediocre defense and her attack are not impressive either. Considering that I have bunch of other hybrid tanks, including skill awakened platinum priest fighter Fermi and black samurai Hibari both of which are much more solid tanks especially during skill activation (and for crowd control I have pumpkin mage armor too.. and for long distance sniping there is monster slayer for a reason) she probably will remain in warming bed department for a long time.
Hmm.. on second thought having unit which can do almost all singlehandedly - it's not that bad after all And if you can combo her awakened skill with emperor skill - such rampage is worthy to see.. well in distant future as I am lack of black spirits completely now.
Consider her as second Prince. I am sure she is much more useful than you think she is - permanent +20% to attack and +15% to defense is not a bonus you can scoff at. Hell, I would even gladly exchange my black with her since her ability is much more powerful. She can easily help to complete difficult maps if you put her on the map/activate her skill in key moments. And if she bothers you after that - no one can prevent you from removing her from the map. With her you just don't need dancers since she is much better.
At last, after heaps of imperial silvers I got black heavy artillery Elmira
Well, I like her art, but it seems it is rather weak black. As tank Elmira has mediocre defense and her attack are not impressive either. Considering that I have bunch of other hybrid tanks, including skill awakened platinum priest fighter Fermi and black samurai Hibari both of which are much more solid tanks especially during skill activation (and for crowd control I have pumpkin mage armor too.. and for long distance sniping there is monster slayer for a reason) she probably will remain in warming bed department for a long time.
Hmm.. on second thought having unit which can do almost all singlehandedly - it's not that bad after all
And if you can combo her awakened skill with emperor skill - such rampage is worthy to see.. well in distant future as I am lack of black spirits completely now.Consider her as second Prince. I am sure she is much more useful than you think she is - permanent +20% to attack and +15% to defense is not a bonus you can scoff at. Hell, I would even gladly exchange my black with her since her ability is much more powerful. She can easily help to complete difficult maps if you put her on the map/activate her skill in key moments. And if she bothers you after that - no one can prevent you from removing her from the map. With her you just don't need dancers since she is much better.
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I don't think you entirely understand how Dancers work, if you're saying that XD
Dancers do crazy things for low-attack and multi-hit units, since they give a flat buff instead of a percent buff. Dancers do far more for vampire hunters, demon summoners, and sailors than prince or any other percentage buffer, often more than doubling their attack while skill is up.
I don't think you entirely understand how Dancers work, if you're saying that XD
Dancers do crazy things for low-attack and multi-hit units, since they give a flat buff instead of a percent buff. Dancers do far more for vampire hunters, demon summoners, and sailors than prince or any other percentage buffer, often more than doubling their attack while skill is up.
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not true.
I somewhat agree that being able to reliably afk a map with automatic non-permanent skill activations probably means u can afk it without skills at all.
But she is a fun unit regardless
not true.
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That's brilliant vid. Exactly what I meant.
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The new map on the revival is surprisingly nasty. If one didn't look it up beforehand on Niconico, the big ninjas at the beginning going super saiyan probably wreck 90% of blind runs right out of the gate. The rest is easy once you have your team down, but damn, that beginning is a cheap shot.
The new map on the revival is surprisingly nasty. If one didn't look it up beforehand on Niconico, the big ninjas at the beginning going super saiyan probably wreck 90% of blind runs right out of the gate. The rest is easy once you have your team down, but damn, that beginning is a cheap shot.
Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game
Not sure what I should be looking at and not sure how a "probably" statement can be "absolutely" denied....
The units and setup are quite close to Kar's no-Leora afk. According to my "possibility" statement, this guy should have a high chance of doing an afk run without Leora (not the same exact team, obviously) and I still believe that after watching the video.
Maybe the guy doesn't have anything to exchange for Farne so Leora is a must, yeah, could be, my "not true" statement doesn't negate that possibility at all.
If u understood that the same team without Leora could do it, that's obviously not the case, probably just my bad english.
Not sure what I should be looking at and not sure how a "probably" statement can be "absolutely" denied....
The units and setup are quite close to Kar's no-Leora afk. According to my "possibility" statement, this guy should have a high chance of doing an afk run without Leora (not the same exact team, obviously) and I still believe that after watching the video.
Maybe the guy doesn't have anything to exchange for Farne so Leora is a must, yeah, could be, my "not true" statement doesn't negate that possibility at all.
If u understood that the same team without Leora could do it, that's obviously not the case, probably just my bad english.
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Hello there, I am actually the guy who made the AFK video using Leora. I would like to clarify things.
Yes without a doubt I heavily referenced Kar's video, but without Leora my chances of AFK doing 500kills is 0% simply because I don't have Elmira and Rinne. I simply replaced Kar's Elmira with Farune however I can't afk with Farune without Leora.
I have that same thinking too initially, however after some analysis I realize that with Leora you can greatly make use of units that have low CT skill.(for example Camilla, Farune, Cynthia have 25sec CT, 17.5sec if you have rear tactician). The shorter the CT gap, the easier you can set timing for skill activation. I succeeded the AFK run on 2nd try with Leora, setting the skill timing won't be as difficult as it sounds.
I won't say she's a must have if your barrack is full of OP unit, AFK without Leora is manageble with the current subjugation difficulty up to date. However with Leora you can greatly reduce the requirement for AFK runs in terms of unit rarity.
Later on I did some testing and realized that Farune can also be replaced by Eterna(for the sake of lower rarity challenge). This is my current line-up against empire subjugation,
To sum up- Leora enables AFK-run much more easier when you do not have all the OP units.
Hello there, I am actually the guy who made the AFK video using Leora. I would like to clarify things.
Yes without a doubt I heavily referenced Kar's video, but without Leora my chances of AFK doing 500kills is 0% simply because I don't have Elmira and Rinne. I simply replaced Kar's Elmira with Farune however I can't afk with Farune without Leora.
I have that same thinking too initially, however after some analysis I realize that with Leora you can greatly make use of units that have low CT skill.(for example Camilla, Farune, Cynthia have 25sec CT, 17.5sec if you have rear tactician). The shorter the CT gap, the easier you can set timing for skill activation. I succeeded the AFK run on 2nd try with Leora, setting the skill timing won't be as difficult as it sounds.
I won't say she's a must have if your barrack is full of OP unit, AFK without Leora is manageble with the current subjugation difficulty up to date. However with Leora you can greatly reduce the requirement for AFK runs in terms of unit rarity.
Later on I did some testing and realized that Farune can also be replaced by Eterna(for the sake of lower rarity challenge). This is my current line-up against empire subjugation,
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. That is exactly 2 Premium black, 2 non-premium black, 7 platinums and 1 gold. I doubt there's anyone who can afk without Leora when comes to low rarity contest.To sum up- Leora enables AFK-run much more easier when you do not have all the OP units.
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Guys, is it possible to get imperial units from normal premium gacha? I just did 2 summons from normal premium gacha and i got 2 imperial units
. And yes, i am pretty certain that it was normal premium gacha and not imperial gacha. i checked it after my first summon.
Guys, is it possible to get imperial units from normal premium gacha? I just did 2 summons from normal premium gacha and i got 2 imperial units
. And yes, i am pretty certain that it was normal premium gacha and not imperial gacha. i checked it after my first summon.
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no.
btw, there are 2 imperial gachas. the one with the cute fox in the banner is also imperial gacha.
Guys, is it possible to get imperial units from normal premium gacha? I just did 2 summons from normal premium gacha and i got 2 imperial unitsView attachment 25494 . And yes, i am pretty certain that it was normal premium gacha and not imperial gacha. i checked it after my first summon.
no.
btw, there are 2 imperial gachas. the one with the cute fox in the banner is also imperial gacha.
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Oh, ok. My bad... i thought that the first gacha was normal premium gacha. Thx!
Oh, ok. My bad... i thought that the first gacha was normal premium gacha.
Thx!
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Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game
She lets you afk things that wouldn't otherwise be able to by activating skills without your input. Not a complicated concept.
If you discount any autoskill from an afk, that's just stupid.
She lets you afk things that wouldn't otherwise be able to by activating skills without your input. Not a complicated concept.
If you discount any autoskill from an afk, that's just stupid.
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@Gabezhul,
Draa here, just for your sake let me explain a bit about Leora.
First roll Kyuubi, 105 roll no Leora. - what is this whale-speak.
Joking aside, Leora is specifically designed to for one thing and one thing only. To ease the afk requirement and making life easier for your afk.
The basically idea is, if you can activate skill brainlessly, you would have an easier time with something like subjugation/harder maps that cannot be previously afked, whether it's due to needing to activate one skill later on or not.
A lot of units would benefit from it anyways. Say for an extreme case, Lapis activating every cycle increasing raw damage everywhere - enough to get through a wave, or someone else's skill just happen to cover for that.
It's basically brainless Aigis game at it's best, and make afk requirement on something like current subjugation or harder afk maps a lot more manageable. Just because your unit will actually cycle the skills now on - which enables a lot of sherigans as well. (Don't deploy Motley and Leora together - at least don't activate Leora skill)
Still not good enough?
105 no Leora, gacha is hard (despite having 4 Motleys)
@Gabezhul,
Draa here, just for your sake let me explain a bit about Leora.
First roll Kyuubi, 105 roll no Leora. - what is this whale-speak.
(I blame kar's 45 roll silver/gold only and stealing my luck)
Joking aside, Leora is specifically designed to for one thing and one thing only. To ease the afk requirement and making life easier for your afk.
The basically idea is, if you can activate skill brainlessly, you would have an easier time with something like subjugation/harder maps that cannot be previously afked, whether it's due to needing to activate one skill later on or not.
A lot of units would benefit from it anyways. Say for an extreme case, Lapis activating every cycle increasing raw damage everywhere - enough to get through a wave, or someone else's skill just happen to cover for that.
It's basically brainless Aigis game at it's best, and make afk requirement on something like current subjugation or harder afk maps a lot more manageable. Just because your unit will actually cycle the skills now on - which enables a lot of sherigans as well. (Don't deploy Motley and Leora together - at least don't activate Leora skill)
Still not good enough?
105 no Leora, gacha is hard (despite having 4 Motleys)