Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[Aeonmaster]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Why not think it like that. You buy 14SC and get a free Unit as extra.

 

[silverhunt]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

For those who bought her, is Alicia worth it? I don't want to buy her only because of her ability..5% is good, but not THAT good....

You should consider her SAW: attack and defense x3 (lower atack speed); with the Prince, she'd have more os less AT1600 and DF2300 with a duration of 50 seconds.

Maybe because I just awed Sybilla recently? And Sarahs lvl doesnt really matter to me since I mostly only have her in Team for her passive

Do you have your blacks with SAW at least?

 

[Aeonmaster]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Aisha, Estelle sawed. I am aiming to saw Rakshasha, Sybilla,Altair and Sarah. But the later two are Stuck at 4/5. I am however trying to focus to get Raven aw ready. Her affection is already at 100 and I only need at least 1 plat Armor and some fodder to get her to 70.

 

[TieSKey]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Anya is just way too expensive for what she does imo. She's a 35 cost unit that can't really tank yet demands to be placed on the frontline as a 35 cost trash-clearing unit because she lacks ranged support capability. If I want to clear trash, almost 99% of the time I'm better off just using a dancer+reanbell or an angel for under half her cost while not incurring the problem of "what if something too big to tank comes along." If someone lacks versatility, it's not Ingrid - it's Anya. Granted, I'm not saying Anya is bad because few other units can deal with, say, wooden golems in the story map as well as her, but she's generally one of the first units I cut when I'm building a team for something. It's very odd to me that you'd criticize Ingrid for versatility because Sybilla and Ingrid are probably the *most* versatile blacks I have - they're one of the 6 or so units I never exclude and I consider the two way stronger than her.

I'm late for this discussion, I know, but... do u people ever sleep?

She has almost same def and hp as Berenice, plus 20 MR.

"what if something too big to tank comes along."
Ask yourself how many of that units actually exists? I can count 4, 3 being majins and the last a mitril golem.

And remember dps is not everything, with her regular skill she can tank all of the above becoming one of the best physical tanks in the game.

Being free is a big plus, as 90% of the player base won't have enough blacks to actually overlap her role. And if u get a better tank, aw skill makes her a a very nice slicer.




Sybilla wise, the only problem I see with her is actually the same as with rune fencers, if she gets stuck with a high hp or MR unit her versatility goes to hell. Still I would put her in a middle tier solely because she hits like a truck



About Eterna I would definitely rank her as top mid tier. She does nothing "rare" or "super" but an instant plat lvl mage+healer on a single spot is really really useful. I guess is not that noticeable for "Manatee" (not yet whales ) users with a lot of other blacks.

 

[Daverost]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Got stupid lucky and got a CR on each Cloris I got from the guaranteed drops. So she's cost min and I only had to run everything once.

Saving for Belinda now, who I expect will not go nearly as well. I missed her the last time she was around since my account was less than a week old and I couldn't clear the map she dropped from for the guaranteed drop.

 

[soranokira]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

used 1 SC on another account, ran 4 runs of 5sta map, and got 2 cloris and 0 silvers. still, sample size is too small to conclude anything.

also, aeon, if you had spent like 5 SCs on BSII instead of 1 roll on shrine last week, you would've gotten sybilla to AW30~40 probably. if you spent 20 SCs on BSII, you would've been able to AW another 1 or 2 units on top of what you already have. the whole idea here is to level what you already have so that you can clear events better, instead of rolling even more. especially during x1.5 drop rate week, rolling is a relatively stupid idea. there are veterans who spend 30 SCs farming up golden armor X (or G) just to stock up a couple of million (probably 5~8mil?) so they can AW even more units later on.

I will even say that larcx did something right by spending tons of SCs on farming magic crystals and getting his AW60+ units, even if I find that he is very inefficient in doing so (since I'm pretty sure he spent 50~100 SCs outside of x1.5 drop rate week to farm up resources to AW his team). I know he did it in order to rush his team for events so he can 'catch up', but personally I find that certain things are not necessary to rush (like AW cloris who is a poor choice for a witch). nonetheless, that is up to him, but i will agree that spending SCs to level up his units is the right idea to some extent.

 

[Aeonmaster]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Sybilla is now aw30ish. I will get her to aw40 and then raise others <.<. And well yeah it was frustasting that I run enough Gold x enough to get 1mil gold but only got 4-5 plat armors. Most of the plat armor i burned to lvl my Sarah came from the vepar map.

Edit: And what is BSII?

 

[soranokira]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Sybilla is now aw30ish. I will get her to aw40 and then raise others <.<. And well yeah it was frustasting that I run enough Gold x enough to get 1mil gold but only got 4-5 plat armors. Most of the plat armor i burned to lvl my Sarah came from the vepar map.

Edit: And what is BSII?

base scramble II, also one of the best (if not the best) story maps to grind for unit fodder.

 

[silverhunt]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Aisha, Estelle sawed. I am aiming to saw Rakshasha, Sybilla,Altair and Sarah. But the later two are Stuck at 4/5. I am however trying to focus to get Raven aw ready. Her affection is already at 100 and I only need at least 1 plat Armor and some fodder to get her to 70.

Altair should be your priority. With her SAW, you get 15 cost points just at the beginning of any stage. Moreover, with Aisha, you obtain 15 cost points every 21 seconds and she becomes a pseudo-tank with 3400-3500 HP.

Sybilla wise, the only problem I see with her is actually the same as with rune fencers, if she gets stuck with a high hp or MR unit her versatility goes to hell. Still I would put her in a middle tier solely because she hits like a truck

This is why Sybilla has an excellent synergy with Ingrid's SAW (decreasing of MR by 70%); enemies with high MR have nothing to do with Sybilla and Ingrid duo, giving them a great versatility.

 

[Larcx]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

@SK

I pity You.....
Just becoz everyone said Cloris did not worth it
Why should I care?

I like her , that's the end of the discussion
I find everyone opinion on Cloris might be right and I respect it

But I can do whatever I wish with My account~

Although I admit I did not use her anymore
Now I use Despara AW 15 Cost

F*** this witch... she refuse to 5/5
DAMN IT!!!!!!!

 

[WiliamZero]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Vepar map 11 is too much for me to handle. Lvl 10 way easier than that

 

[soranokira]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

@larcx: all I said is I feel you were inefficient, and I am entitled to my opinions about your playing style, just as you are entitled to leveling cloris or whoever you please, as well as spending your SCs however you wish. I am merely using you as an example in contrast to aeon's spending practice to make a point. not even sure why you are 'pitying' me. we have different opinions, that is all.

@silverhunt

Spoiler

source: http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=840508&postcount=17605

adding in aisha skill:

Spoiler

you get more out of using Aisha for non-SAW altair than SAW altair when it comes to UP generation as you can (hopefully) tell from the graph and the reuse timers of altair's SAW and non-AW skill

 

[silverhunt]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Vepar map 11 is too much for me to handle. Lvl 10 way easier than that

What's your team for Vepar?

you get more out of using Aisha for non-SAW altair than SAW altair when it comes to UP generation as you can (hopefully) tell from the graph and the reuse timers of altair's SAW and non-AW skill

Yeah, you're right, but with Altair's SAW, you obtain 15 cost points immediately, and this is very convenient in any situation, in contrast with her normal skill.

In my opinion, time factor is more important than amount factor.

 

[khawk016]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

i cant access cloris maps but can access belinda maps im i doing something wrong?

 

[Larcx]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

@larcx: all I said is I feel you were inefficient, and I am entitled to my opinions about your playing style, just as you are entitled to leveling cloris or whoever you please, as well as spending your SCs however you wish. I am merely using you as an example in contrast to aeon's spending practice to make a point. not even sure why you are 'pitying' me. we have different opinions, that is all.

Well If You are smart enough
You could leave Me out of Your own pretty private discussion
And stay to Your own eficiency~

Everyone have own playstyle
I find Your efficiency is annoying

Rite , keep hating paying player~

 

[WiliamZero]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

What's your team for Vepar?

This

Spoiler

Almost all of them SAW (I not SAW the soliders because I care for reinforcement points from them). Saki SAW + Reanbell (I wanna her SAW though, too bad she not 10/10 yet. No rainbow to up her last skill) really kill those mermans

 

[soranokira]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

lol. fyi, an example is always the best way to explain/prove a point. that's the only reason I mentioned you, which you didn't have to reply to since I wasn't even talking to you in the first place. and I don't hate paying players, I just find inefficient people stupid.

@khawk016 cloris map is over, the daily revivals last only 1 day each and they are change at the same time as the daily (0000 hrs JST)

 

[khawk016]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

lol. fyi, an example is always the best way to explain/prove a point. that's the only reason I mentioned you, which you didn't have to reply to since I wasn't even talking to you in the first place. and I don't hate paying players, I just find inefficient people stupid.

@khawk016 cloris map is over, the daily revivals last only 1 day each and they are change at the same time as the daily (0000 hrs JST)

thanks kinda sucks i missed her was hoping she would be around long enough to get some sleep but oh well bellinda is worthless to me

 

[DS_Marine]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Using the prince AW guide with buffs, I got him.
Using the AW prince and this great guide, I was able to clear the subjugation for the first time (500).

You must be registered to see the links

A great day, thanks everyone.

 

[Larcx]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

lol. fyi, an example is always the best way to explain/prove a point. that's the only reason I mentioned you, which you didn't have to reply to since I wasn't even talking to you in the first place. and I don't hate paying players, I just find inefficient people stupid.

Sure Mr smart a**

You are so freaking efficient that You can clear all the map challenge

Cool~