Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[Ashurmen]

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Nevermind everything is back to normal dunno why.

 

[Anelai]

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Rita was a crap platinum useless unit but then she got skill AW (1.2x attack and can't be targeted both for 120 seconds), and after that they introduced FurFur. She damages him and he can't hit her back. That is imore awesome.

I am on my way to raise Rita: AW50 but 9/10 skill.
My Bashira is lvl1 waiting for better times, I min costed bothe Claire and Spica, both have attack str on skill so upon high Def enemies their attack doesn't bounce. I also love to team up Miruno with Claire, they work really well in unison. Claire skill up when Miruno sleeps, skill run of when Mizuno wakes. Then Claire skill is up again when Miruno goes to sleep.

Bashira has her own usefulness but I could easily livery without her whole Claire skill saved my ass lots of times. I am not talking about her bonus proc. This is random, you shouldn't count it into her dmg.

 

[Petite Soeur]

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I keep getting the region error, so I have to view it through other means.

Artemis DPS comparison (with AW Prince):
Claire: 1216 for 35s (this is also taking in account the small chance of her ability)
AW Claire: 1033 for 18s (27 attack speed)
Bella: 601 for 25s (442 range)
AW Bella: 745 for 30s (468 range; 50 attack speed)
Bashira: 1945 for 15s
AW Bashira: 2097 for 12s
Victoria: 1202 for 45s
AW Victoria: 962 for 25s (364 range)
Spica: 1076 for 90s (312 range)
AW Spica: 922 for 30s (magical)
AW Rita: 890 for 120s (this is also taking in account the small chance of her ability)
Oscar: 1314 for 30s (42 attack speed)
AW Oscar: 1469 for 30s (42 attack speed)

One of the upcoming revival characters is called Waltz. She's a dancer that gives 10% of her attack and defence to units within her range (100% while her skill is active). She's a good character for AW Skill Claire, Bashira, and Oscar, since they all have skills that boost their attack speed, or fire multiple arrows. Waltz has a higher attack stat and a longer duration (25s) than the premium dancer, Marnie (18s; though skill AW makes it so Marnie can ultimately give more attack after her 2nd and 3rd uses).

The only reason Claire is a good character is because she can have her skill easily raised with Dragon Steaks (Gadoras), and they keep bringing her back for Gold Rushes (the people in this thread who praise her are mainly ones who were around since the good ol' days when Claire was a serial code, and they did Anya and Echidna's revival 2-3 times, which is the primary source of Dragon Steaks).

Bashira has a huge advantage over all other characters in that her skill at 1/5 is at peak performance in duration and damage (raising it only decreases her WT/CT). Because of this, Bashira is one of the biggest cheat characters in the game for new players along with ones like Black Archer Nanaly, Black Bowrider Leone, and Plat Mage Grania; everyone else requires rainbow fairies, or silver/event units with the same skills to reach their full potentials.

 

[Anelai]

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It moves me back to dmm main page. as for your archers comparison: I agree Claire was my first archer until I've got Spica and they both helped me greatly during 2 years playing this game. I also agree that her main features are really cheap cost and fast reload of skill.

On the other hand this whole discussion started because people were telling that making Rita ultimate EXP can is great idea. Characters in this game are really different from each other and every one of them has its uses. Bashira may be much better in bursting things down but in some specific situations like FurFur - Bashira will die and Rita will shine.

 

[Akari20]

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I keep getting the region error, so I have to view it through other means

I can, but I'm using a VPN. That probably makes a difference.

 

[TieSKey]

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it's more of claire's normal skill that is good i think. increase atk III. with it up, it pierces def, so under spica + claire combinations there's almost no free player replacement for that dps.

That's exactly the point.

Just out of curiousity, but have people in the maribel - silver talk some pages back taken into account that with lvl55 Leanne pushes 524 armor.

I mean sure, Maribel beats her with miles in most ways, not arguing that, and its not like it's a close contest.

But she gets stuck at 423 armor, so out outside of skill, even leanna seems like a more solid 'dont-have-to-babysit' bet on anything that cant one shot her due to armor (and of course, she has a small skill too, to boost it).
At least until AW Maribel and then some levels and skill levels on top, which in total is one helluva an investment* to get a Plat past a Silver.
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On the archer thing. Well. Agree with the lists once they are at their full levels, skills, and what not, but until then, value Bashira a lot higher. I have Spica, Claire JP side and Spica, Bashira ENG side and there has been many a time I have dearly wished Bashira was there on JP side with her on demand burst, while there has been no time at all, where I have wished for Claire. So until end of the line levels, Bashira and often over Spica, as there are a fair number of situations where her HP simply dont cut it while Bashira's will.

You are right that Maribele demands more attention and lvls. But 400 def and high hp is enough to "resist' until skill is up. She doesn't replace Berenice but complement her.

The problem with Bashira is her high cost and a stupid aw ability. I really like her but feels lacking.

The only reason Claire is a good character is because she can have her skill easily raised with Dragon Steaks (Gadoras), and they keep bringing her back for Gold Rushes (the people in this thread who praise her are mainly ones who were around since the good ol' days when Claire was a serial code, and they did Anya and Echidna's revival 2-3 times, which is the primary source of Dragon Steaks).

Bashira has a huge advantage over all other characters in that her skill at 1/5 is at peak performance in duration and damage (raising it only decreases her WT/CT). Because of this, Bashira is one of the biggest cheat characters in the game for new players along with ones like Black Archer Nanaly, Black Bowrider Leone, and Plat Mage Grania; everyone else requires rainbow fairies, or silver/event units with the same skills to reach their full potentials.

Yup, that's exactly it. The only thing to add is of course, a burst skill is as good as your timing.

It moves me back to dmm main page. as for your archers comparison: I agree Claire was my first archer until I've got Spica and they both helped me greatly during 2 years playing this game. I also agree that her main features are really cheap cost and fast reload of skill.

On the other hand this whole discussion started because people were telling that making Rita ultimate EXP can is great idea. Characters in this game are really different from each other and every one of them has its uses. Bashira may be much better in bursting things down but in some specific situations like FurFur - Bashira will die and Rita will shine.

Ha, well done remembering the original question . Yes, Rita is now worth having and raising unless u have Nanaly and you are not a whale player.


Sorry for the long post

 

[soranokira]

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wouldn't say 'only' reason claire is good only for veterans. anyway, dps comparison looks nice, but it overlooked the fact that bashira's dps is also the most severely affected by enemies with def, even if she also benefits the most from a dancer support. also the numbers look nice, but the fact is claire's skill duration lasts longer (double even at lv1) and therefore the numbers are skewed. bashira has a better burst within 15s, but claire does only slightly worse for the entire 30s of her skill. disregarding dancer, claire does better than bashira against units with a bit of armor (also usually the ones you want to burst down)

basically, if you run a total dmg from skill comparison, as well as under 200def or so conditions, the numbers should be way closer. also comparing uptime, bashira has a 55s cycle at lvl 1 skill, 50s cycle at lvl 5 (temporarily disregarding SAW, which basically makes her stronger under no def circumstances but weaker under def, also amplifying dancer boosting effects), while claire has a 60s skill cycle, which doesnt differ that much. would be great for a newbie~mid-gamer to have the 3 archers (bashira, spica, claire), although all of them somewhat pales at end-game. another example of when claire's skill duration would be good is during crystal G, where you actually want a longer skill to take out the gazers that come, though of course bashira would be better when you want to burst down enemies asap.

 

[Anelai]

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and Rita got ignored once again. Poor Rita-chan

 

[Murasamehaihai]

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After one year playing, i'm still using only Claire and Spica, sometime Bella( she isn't AW tho), i never need to raise Bashira or Rita(i used Ricola for fufur).

 

[TieSKey]

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wouldn't say 'only' reason claire is good only for veterans. anyway, dps comparison looks nice, but it overlooked the fact that bashira's dps is also the most severely affected by enemies with def, even if she also benefits the most from a dancer support. also the numbers look nice, but the fact is claire's skill duration lasts longer (double even at lv1) and therefore the numbers are skewed. bashira has a better burst within 15s, but claire does only slightly worse for the entire 30s of her skill. disregarding dancer, claire does better than bashira against units with a bit of armor (also usually the ones you want to burst down)

basically, if you run a total dmg from skill comparison, as well as under 200def or so conditions, the numbers should be way closer. also comparing uptime, bashira has a 55s cycle at lvl 1 skill, 50s cycle at lvl 5 (temporarily disregarding SAW, which basically makes her stronger under no def circumstances but weaker under def, also amplifying dancer boosting effects), while claire has a 60s skill cycle, which doesnt differ that much. would be great for a newbie~mid-gamer to have the 3 archers (bashira, spica, claire), although all of them somewhat pales at end-game. another example of when claire's skill duration would be good is during crystal G, where you actually want a longer skill to take out the gazers that come, though of course bashira would be better when you want to burst down enemies asap.

Petite's numbers include skill duration. The correct way to use his data is what u did, he is not drawing any conclusion.

Claire is good at full cost but not a lot better than Rita if u manage to min cost her. That's why Petite mentioned we are veterans. (My Claire refuses to get to -2 anyway -.-, while Bella got to -3 with 3 copies and Rita finally got to -5 during last revival)

 

[soranokira]

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Petite's numbers include skill duration. The correct way to use his data is what u did, he is not drawing any conclusion.

Claire is good at full cost but not a lot better than Rita if u manage to min cost her. That's why Petite mentioned we are veterans. (My Claire refuses to get to -2 anyway -.-, while Bella got to -3 with 3 copies and Rita finally got to -5 during last revival)

'not drawing any conclusion'

The only reason Claire is a good character

not sure how that line wasn't meant to be judging claire and effectively saying she's not better than bashira.
also, he did include skill duration but he didn't amplify the numbers based on the duration. the total damage for bashira is going to be

Claire: 1216 for 35s (this is also taking in account the small chance of her ability) 1216*35 = 42,560
Bashira: 1945 for 15s 1945 * 15 + 1945/3*20 = 29,175 + 12,967 = 42,142

see how their total dmg output during a span of 35s appears now, as compared to petite's raw dps number?

also, one main reason why i'm even on this is because

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I seriously tried to replicate with spica + bashira and obviously that didnt turn out as well as it could've since def came into play. and no, didnt have waltz, but UP was so tight i'm not even sure it would've been possible.

just further supporting the points I made before. not saying either claire or bashira is better; they just fulfill different roles (bashira for burst, claire for sustained dps, in particular against foes with a little defense)

ignoring rita here because she falls into a different niche. if she's attempted to replace claire like in the vepar lv5 video i showed above, 120s later she'd be down for the count for 80s.

 

[nissebrygger]

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Plat Princess Sukuha
Gains 1.2 atk at AW against Specters

Been unable to find what Specters are, they do not seem to fit any category on the Wikis.

Anyone know what falls under it? Closest I get guess at is "ghost" variations of units

 

[Daverost]

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It's youkai-type, IIRC.

Also, I've just gone 9 runs in a row without a Fran drop. Four of those dropped nothing. Please kill me. I am literally throwing crystals away at this point.

 

[Aeonmaster]

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When should all ages anyversary happen again? By next mt or after the mt in 2 weeks. Just asking because I just awed Grace and wanted to have her immediately at 99 without lvling her u:

 

[Akari20]

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So that's what Happy/Joy do? Pity it's a bit late for me to give one to Aisha, lol.

Is anyone else suddenly finding that DMM is accessible without a VPN (or whatever other methods there are to changing region)? I accidentally discovered as well that Nutaku is accessible even when I had my VPN running.

 

[WiliamZero]

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So that's what Happy/Joy do? Pity it's a bit late for me to give one to Aisha, lol.

Is anyone else suddenly finding that DMM is accessible without a VPN (or whatever other methods there are to changing region)? I accidentally discovered as well that Nutaku is accessible even when I had my VPN running.

There's a trick, It's to change your TCP/IPv4 - DNS setting. I used this trick and I don't need to use VPN to play at all

Another trick is KanColle Command Center, but only useful if you know the appid the game you play and only work on Aegis All-Age version. Useful in Cyber Cafe with restrictions

 

[Akari20]

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There's a trick, It's to change your TCP/IPv4 - DNS setting. I used this trick and I don't need to use VPN to play at all

Another trick is KanColle Command Center, but only useful if you know the appid the game you play and only work on Aegis All-Age version. Useful in Cyber Cafe with restrictions

I did look into something cookie-related on a KanColle wiki when I decided I wanted to play JP Aigis, but I was having trouble with it somehow, so I tried a VPN.

Unfortunately TCP/IPv4 - DNS isn't something I'm knowledgeable about either. Though it might be good to learn a bit about it. But at this stage, I'd be inclined to stick with my VPN anyway because Australia's gotten much stricter about data retention recently.

 

[TieSKey]

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'not drawing any conclusion'

not sure how that line wasn't meant to be judging claire and effectively saying she's not better than bashira.
also, he did include skill duration but he didn't amplify the numbers based on the duration. the total damage for bashira is going to be

Damn, missed that line
What I meant is that stating the dps plus skill duration instead of doing the multiplication doesn't mean the duration should not be taken into account.
Total dmg is another important factor as u say. Applications vary a lot with maps, team and play style.

I think the worst decrement for Bashira is the difficulty to bring her cost down (even for not veterans Claire is easier) and the boring aw skill.

 

[TieSKey]

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I did look into something cookie-related on a KanColle wiki when I decided I wanted to play JP Aigis, but I was having trouble with it somehow, so I tried a VPN.

Unfortunately TCP/IPv4 - DNS isn't something I'm knowledgeable about either. Though it might be good to learn a bit about it. But at this stage, I'd be inclined to stick with my VPN anyway because Australia's gotten much stricter about data retention recently.

Sorry for double post, to lazy to edit.

Don't worry about the dns thing, it is really unlikely it has anything to do with this.
The kancoller command center worked for me, u don't need any api key nor id token for just overcoming the region restrictions, that is needed for kancolle specific functionality.

Anyway I heard Australia censorship sucks so if vpn works, use it

 

[khawk016]

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Sorry for double post, to lazy to edit.

Don't worry about the dns thing, it is really unlikely it has anything to do with this.
The kancoller command center worked for me, u don't need any api key nor id token for just overcoming the region restrictions, that is needed for kancolle specific functionality.

Anyway I heard Australia censorship sucks so if vpn works, use it

didnt they ban gta v or something stupid like that?