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Yeah, the story is they were already planing on changing it anyway, and whilst that was only ever mentioned afterwards and thus could very easily be simple damage control, I'm willing enough to believe it given how several other characters all share the same generic pose. The only thing that caused the blow-up to occur at all, was as Twist says, how the initial response very much gave the appearance of pandering to a single vocal individual. They then closed the thread preventing discussion, and had to open it later to make a follow up explanation regarding having already planned a change anyway.

By that point, especially with the thread closed, people had already reported it all over the net, and many never even saw or heard of the follow up response. Had they initially answered with,
"The current pose is actually just a place-holder, and have been planing to change it anyway. We hope everyone finds the new pose satisfactory when it arrives."
And left the thread open, rather than...
"We'll replace the pose. We want *everybody* to feel strong and heroic in our community. The last thing we want to do is make someone feel uncomfortable, under-appreciated or mis-represented. Apologies and we'll continue to try to do better."
Then quite likely this would have never left their forums.

In all honesty, a managing director for the game shouldn't have been making any statement at all on such a trivial yet potentially powder-keg topic, that at the time was a mere forum thread with two dozen participants. Had Blizzard simply gone and changed the pose a month later to what it is now without having said anything at all about it, barely anyone would have even noticed, much less gave a shit.

Blizzard perhaps needs to ease up on the "try hard" progressive angle they've been dipping into, and keep it more casual. The previous time they tried to advertise their new character Zarya alongside the statement "We want to include a diverse range of body types" they both came under mild flak with one side complaining about the cheeseball pandering, and the other side complaining that despite their pitch, Zarya was just a dime-a-dozen burly Russian stereotype. You can't win with this kind of stuff. So they need to let the praise come naturally where deserved, and stop trying to fish for it in such murky waters.
 

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Speaking of tryhard, Blizzard or somebody has apparently been hard DMCAing overwatch porn from all over the internet. Somrbody doesn't want it on thr internet and i know multiple people that have gotten their shit taken down and recieved final warnings already.
 

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Oooooh, digitalero and all the SFM artists are gonna get wreeeeeeeeeeeecked.
 

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Oooooh, digitalero and all the SFM artists are gonna get wreeeeeeeeeeeecked.
Not the first time, StudioFOW got harassed by Blizzard lawyers over a Draenei animation they did


This however means that I'm prolly never giving Blizzard any money ever again if they keep this up
 

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At what point have enthusiasts who make porn for the sake of porn cared about what a big company thinks of them?

All this really does is make them go anonymous, get a proxy and just post their creations directly to 4chan or some other anonymous place

I mean, sure, if people make money off it, then Blizzard is legally kinda forced to tell them off or they'd lose out on legal benefits, but people doing it just for porn will keep doing it
 

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Basically, with regards to Tracer's ass pose, it was a case of a perfect storm, with much of the vocal Internet already having been primed for something like this due to the kerfuffle with DoA Extreme's lack of a release in the west.

So basically, it became something much more symbolic than something with actual substantial importance in itself. And now everyone's building entire armies of strawmen around it.

That's the first I've heard of it.
Yeah, because no one's interesting in disseminating the facts, but rather just want to scoop up examples to further opinions they already have. So you have people going "hyuk hyuk feminists hate sex, lol" just like you have the morons who refuse to believe that anyone could dislike the new Ghostbusters remake without being misogynists.

EDIT: Oh, and I don't believe for a second that Blizz is going to success in weeding the internet of Overwatch porn. This is just going to be the Streisand effect writ large. Which I don't really mind, the Overwatch ladies are hot. :D
 
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Censorship is starting to approach it's time for a definition update, I think. It is still widely believed that only a government can censor something; and at one time, that was fairly true.

In today's connected society where sometimes a very vocal minority can create the illusion of a mass consensus, we are starting to see groups of random people on the internet holding disproportionately more power than would normally be accounted for by the free market.

It is still believed by a lot of people that free-market censorship is good; that it is, in fact, an extension of free speech. People are just saying that they don't want a product with x or y in it, and content creators cater to those... "suggestions" to maximize their profitability.

But the truth is far from that. These... "suggestions" carry a very threatening tone to them when an angry twitter mob literally has caused people to lose their jobs. You don't just wonder "does this group of angry people mean that there isn't much demand for what I'm offering?" you wonder "Will this group of angry people cause me to become unemployed and unemployable if I don't give them what they want?"

When you see how much of a real threat to your livelihood an angry internet mob can be; it can be kind of hard to believe an artist who makes something then turns around and says "actually I didn't like the thing I spent days/weeks/months making either I'm totally on board with you guys in wanting it changed/erased."

We seem to be sitting right in the middle of a very rough transition. Online activism has done a fair amount of good in the world and built up a fairly good reputation before it started doing a lot of wrong. So, each time the internet mob does something, we're going to have this argument over whether or not the internet mob is right, and if it should have as much power as it does, and the facts of any single incident will end up being treated as less important to a lot of people than the overall "war" connecting each event.
 
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All this really does is make them go anonymous, get a proxy and just post their creations directly to 4chan or some other anonymous place
Yes, because people basically going into social hiding out of fear of having a big company sue them for their life's worth is ok
 

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Is having a Patreon and then making an Overwatch animation really the same as making an Overwatch animation and charging people for watching it? In most cases, the animations are released publically, free of charge, on your tumblrs and blogspots and what have you.
 

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Yes, because people basically going into social hiding out of fear of having a big company sue them for their life's worth is ok
Definitely is not
But as someone mentioned the streisand effect earlier, I think that may be exactly Blizzard's plan. We won't know until they actually sue anyone over it.

After all, all of this got Overwatch a huge load of free PR as now everyone is talking about how hot the overwatch characters are, and talking about their personalities and whether or not they fit a pose.

Not sure if a patreon counts as making money off it. Since technically the patreon is more of a 'money for the person so they can continue their hobby'. And then it just happens that said hobby is the creation of porn, then I personally don't think it counts. They're releasing that for free, and you may not even have heard of them when you find the porn they made
 

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We won't know until they actually sue anyone over it.
I brought that up in a way earlier by referencing to this:


It's not quite suing, but it's pretty much close enough. Not even with Overwatch content either

However, a lot of people do have a good chunk of their content Patreon-only, which admittedly is something I disagree with but that's a slightly different discussion. Whether or not patreon counts as donations to the artist or something similar to a paysite(which would then legally fall under profiting from it I think?) really depends on the person running it. Some people I've also seen do mostly public works, but some patreon-only due to the content they include, not being allowed to be posted on the websites they usually get posted on like tumblr or r34. It'd make it a wishy-washy as they would technically be profiting from some of it but not all of it?

The legal side of things is verily above my head, all I can really say firmly is that as far as opinions go I'm very much against Blizzard's actions with this
 

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Just found this


PCGamesN discovered the claims of copyright violations are actually coming from a digital security company known as Irdeto USA, and it's currently thought—based only on the specific subject of the content, really—that Blizzard may have outsourced to Irdeto in order to flush this stuff out.
So it may not even be Blizzard doing it, just blizz saying "Do it for us"
 

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Just found this




So it may not even be Blizzard doing it, just blizz saying "Do it for us"
Yeah, I've known about that for a abit


 

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Yeah, I looked up the Overwatch clip referenced by Philip DeFranco (a youtuber that covered the whole Overwatch porn phenomenon), and it was removed by Irdeto as well.
 

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They can keep trying to take it down if they want to but sooner or later the Streisand effect is probably going to happen and then we're pretty much going to see thousands upon thousands of overwatch porn pop up all over the place in a short period of time.
 

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They can keep trying to take it down if they want to but sooner or later the Streisand effect is probably going to happen and then we're pretty much going to see thousands upon thousands of overwatch porn pop up all over the place in a short period of time.
The funny part, really, is that this takedown is in response to what could be called a Streisand Effect from the change of Tracer's pose. We might end up seeing Streisandception at this point
 

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The funny part, really, is that this takedown is in response to what could be called a Streisand Effect from the change of Tracer's pose. We might end up seeing Streisandception at this point
True - and a rather funny prospect. :p
 

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all this stuff will make Blizzard back off if they don't want to lose the people who are paying for Overwatch. my saying is this:

"Money is power in today's world, if you do not do what the person with money says, you will be shit out of luck and poor."

just my two cents.
 

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Jim Sterling talks on the subject.
 

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Have a picture related to the subject

 
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