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[SoulLess Child]

If they walk it back and remove it, they will regain some favour with the majority, If they refuse to remove it but walk back their defence, I can see it being swept under the rug after a while. Unfortunately, as the world's largest (subscription-based) streaming service, I doubt they'll be in such hot water that any action is necessary to regain public favour.

similar things could be said about Apple, but ignoring "death by a thousand papercuts" can be dangerous.

 

[Ninja_Named_Bob]

Apple is also one of maybe a handful of tech giants with their market cornered, so you can't really compare the two. Netflix has plenty of competition in different "entertainment companies" (like NBC, HBO, etc), Amazon, and Hulu being their major competitors. Unfortunately, the "entertainment companies" are more focused on producing content exclusive to their platforms and refusing to offer their streaming services globally despite the long-term benefits. Hulu and Amazon don't seem as populated with content, and an unfortunate lack of general content quality controls has allowed Netflix to shoot to the top of their game. Netflix knows what people want and do their damndest to fill that demand, or give a semi-decent substitute as a last resort.

It's like with Pornhub. Yeah, xvideo, spankbang, etc exist and, for the most, part, people know about them. The problem is that everyone knows what pornhub is and how to find it. You want your content to be seen, you upload to pornhub.

 

[SoulLess Child]

Apple is also one of maybe a handful of tech giants with their market cornered, so you can't really compare the two.

so was Sony at some point, they are pretty much still there only because their competitors (aside for Music) made a few serious blunders.
there are 3 overall blunders Apple could make that could signal their fall, one was temp blocked by a court order.

Back to Netflix: the whole Cuties thing bring at least one thing to attention, they will need some staff clean-up.

 

[Ninja_Named_Bob]

It goes much deeper than the people at Netflix. Being a platform who is slowly becoming their own content creator, we have to look behind them to discern who and/or what is pushing this agenda and how to combat it without shooting the messenger. Cuties is just one film in what is likely an entire library of really problematic content that these sickos will inevitably attempt to push on all of us and then try to call us "intolerant" for having higher standards on morality.

liquidating the staff who allowed this garbage on their platform doesn't actually deal with the larger issue at hand.

 

[XSI]

Someone fairly high up in the chain of command has said "Great idea!" when told to publish a film that included pedophile content. And there's no way the lawyers just forgot to inform them
And that someone is who should take the flak, but due to how companies work we won't know if they ever do/did

 

[SoulLess Child]

It goes much deeper than the people at Netflix. Being a platform who is slowly becoming their own content creator, we have to look behind them to discern who and/or what is pushing this agenda and how to combat it without shooting the messenger. Cuties is just one film in what is likely an entire library of really problematic content that these sickos will inevitably attempt to push on all of us and then try to call us "intolerant" for having higher standards on morality.

liquidating the staff who allowed this garbage on their platform doesn't actually deal with the larger issue at hand.

Someone fairly high up in the chain of command has said "Great idea!" when told to publish a film that included pedophile content. And there's no way the lawyers just forgot to inform them
And that someone is who should take the flak, but due to how companies work we won't know if they ever do/did

Part of the bullshit with Cuties is from the marketing side/people, the poster/image was their idea.
and the movie wasn't made by Netflix.

on another note, if someone wanted to bring attention to the problems tied with the over-sexualization of children, mainly girls, maybe a documentary would have been better.

 

[Ninja_Named_Bob]

A documentary would have needed to be a series in and of itself to properly cover the subject. A lot of people forget that it goes well beyond some Jeffrey Epstein scumbag with an island somewhere, and is a full-blown market in some parts of the world. The fact that we put the Epstein's of the world under a microscope while easily disregarding other countries because "over there needs to figure out its own issues!"

The marketing people are just marketing people and take orders from the higher-ups. There was a leak for a set in MtG's Ikoria set that one of the higher-ups had the artist order be "make this character fat. I don't care if it's male or female, has anime hair, etc. We need to represent fat people, so give them some extra bulk." I could easily see the marketing people being told to "make a poster where these girls are posing provocatively to suggest they are in command of their sexuality." How those orders were interpreted is just as problematic as the orders themselves.

 

[MrMe]

Part of the bullshit with Cuties is from the marketing side/people, the poster/image was their idea.
and the movie wasn't made by Netflix.

on another note, if someone wanted to bring attention to the problems tied with the over-sexualization of children, mainly girls, maybe a documentary would have been better.

Or a cartoon so no actual young girls are exploited, probably would've become 4chan's favourite movie instead of their most hated.

Edit: Then again, Nonceflix was already pushing the edge with Big Mouth - perhaps testing the waters to see if a full on pedo-bait movie would pass?

 

[XSI]

I only know the name "Big Mouth" from how exceptionally unpopular it is and how it is raised as an argument for not allowing children to watch cartoons unsupervised
How about we just say that commercial, for-profit companies should not push social issues and instead leave that to various government and/or crime fighting related organizations? We don't need some rich fucks deciding what they think is a problem with culture or whatever. That's how we got 16 hour shifts during industrialization. And they still complained that the people were lazy when they asked for shorter shifts!

 

[SoulLess Child]

The marketing people are just marketing people and take orders from the higher-ups. There was a leak for a set in MtG's Ikoria set that one of the higher-ups had the artist order be "make this character fat. I don't care if it's male or female, has anime hair, etc. We need to represent fat people, so give them some extra bulk." I could easily see the marketing people being told to "make a poster where these girls are posing provocatively to suggest they are in command of their sexuality." How those orders were interpreted is just as problematic as the orders themselves.

They needed more under-aged girls for that poster...
still need cleanup of their marketing, and higher higher-ups to keep departments bosses in check. and probably better internal communication.

 

[Ninja_Named_Bob]

I only know the name "Big Mouth" from how exceptionally unpopular it is and how it is raised as an argument for not allowing children to watch cartoons unsupervised
How about we just say that commercial, for-profit companies should not push social issues and instead leave that to various government and/or crime fighting related organizations? We don't need some rich fucks deciding what they think is a problem with culture or whatever. That's how we got 16 hour shifts during industrialization. And they still complained that the people were lazy when they asked for shorter shifts!

My former roommate was convinced that Big Mouth was some kind of big brain show. He was also an incel that whined about "dem kids these days!" and how women nowadays have such shit standards, so take that as you will. Yes, he was overweight and had a neckbeard. No, he did not wear a fedora.

The problem with those companies is that they're catering to the "feel good" liberal types who are just as out of touch with reality as they are. They stare down from golden towers and think the protestors and rioters want shallow sympathies to curtail their outrage when, in reality, it's gonna take a whole lot more to fix this shit. The other issue is, they most likely don't watch the recommended movies that pass by their desks and only go off of what seems to be the most appreciated by a test group (such as the Cannes film festival) without comprehending the context and possible media surrounding events relating to it. Even if we give them the full benefit of the doubt in believing that not one of their CEO's or marketing people knew what this movie included, that only raises more questions. The issue is, it is very clear that someone at Netflix HQ saw this film, because the original poster made it clear what was in it.

The real problem is that the director/writer is a woman who legitimately stated that the film was not meant to be sexual in any way and that it was meant more as a "coming-of-age" story that she hopes will inspire the younger generation. Like... what?

They needed more under-aged girls for that poster...
still need cleanup of their marketing, and higher higher-ups to keep departments bosses in check. and probably better internal communication.

Better internal communication and better standards for what they're willing to put on their platform and promote. Doctor Who and Star Trek are fine, even with some of the more questionable episodes only because the overall message of both is generally a lot clearer and a lot less muddled by the content (for the most part). Something like Cuties and Big Mouth does so very little to disguise how obviously exploitative they're trying to be that it's a question of why there aren't rioters and protesters attacking their headquarters.

 

[SoulLess Child]

Better internal communication and better standards for what they're willing to put on their platform and promote. Doctor Who and Star Trek are fine, even with some of the more questionable episodes only because the overall message of both is generally a lot clearer and a lot less muddled by the content (for the most part). Something like Cuties and Big Mouth does so very little to disguise how obviously exploitative they're trying to be that it's a question of why there aren't rioters and protesters attacking their headquarters.

I give you Big Mouth there, but Cuties wasn't made by/for Netflix afaik.

 

[Ninja_Named_Bob]

I mean, my point with that was, Netflix needs better standards, regardless of who made it and for what platform, if any.

 

[SoulLess Child]

I mean, my point with that was, Netflix needs better standards, regardless of who made it and for what platform, if any.

was also pretty much my point, hence the "better internal communications", not much use having people dong the researches if the people needing the results don't get them.

 

[AceofWind]

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[noman]

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Fuck 2020.

RIP Long Cat. May you laze around forever in cat heaven.

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[SoulLess Child]

Corona-chan visited Trump.

 

[noman]

Corona-chan visited Trump.

I am surprised it took so long. Many other world leaders already caught it.

 

[XSI]

And since he and Biden spend an evening shouting at eachother in somewhat close proximity, now both of the elderly US candidates probably have it

 

[super_slicer]

I don't know if ole sleepy joe can take a fight with corona. Trump? He'll just bullshit his way through it XD