RPG RPG Maker [ 円環 ] いせたん (RJ130644)

[Harleyquin13]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Except that I actually want to know what's going on with the story? Novel concept, I know. The problem is the author doesn't know when to STOP! It just goes on, and on, and on, and on. Even when I am holding down the shift key (and thankfully it skips text quickly unlike some other games) it takes 5+ minute for one freaking scene.

When you know that you've got such a problem with overwriting that you feel the need to include an option to skip 3 whole sections of the game before the player has even played it through once, that's a pretty good sign that you need to take your hands off the keyboard and maybe go back and condense a few things. Brevity the soul of wit, and all that.

And I'm well aware that how much of work went into this. That's what makes me so mad. This could be so great if the creator would know where to put his time and effort and where to say "well, this is probably going to create more problems than it is worth, maybe I should focus on what I already have".

I don't know. Maybe it's because I literally just came off of playing 剣士ミリアの復讐
, but that game was so well executed and concise with what it wanted to do that none of the bugs or issues that it had even bothered me the slightest. Whereas this game just seem to exacerbates them at every single turn.

Others have complained about the length of the events in his blog, but that's a minor complaint compared to the vast majority worried about game balance and difficulty. The developer's not going to do anything about the length of the dialogue so press shift and bear it. For what it's worth, he writes well for someone's first game.

If you're going in expecting every game to be as perfect as the ones you've played before, then there's nothing anyone else can do to fix your concerns. You could lower your standards or just give up the game and move on like what almost everyone on this thread is about to do.

 

[comradered]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

I've read some of the japanese comments myself on some blog, and apparently most of them are saying that the prologue went on for a bit too long. Also, they fear the bloodsucking bat. Among other things. They sort of hate the main character too, in that she's a bit too trusting of strangers who'd probably (and does, in most cases) rape her when they hook her in.

But yeah, in all honesty, all of that pales in comparison to the oftentimes crippling game difficulty. One wrong move, or just one piece of equipment missing and you'll probably die in all sorts of horrible ways. And, while I suppose this is remedied by actually understanding moon, the instant dead ends that seem to be scattered everywhere in the game are a bitch and a half.

Tl;dr: The game is hard, maybe impossible for most people. Only recommended for those who have the patience of a saint. Or Masochism. Whatever works.

 

[Deleted member 166393]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

I guess people that play H RPG games don't play them for the actual game play so if they have to use more then one hand (ha ha) to do something they cry and run away. Just because it's a RPG with porn in it doesn't mean they all have to be no game over EZ modes.

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

I'm now back to where I stopped first time round having re-done the fairy forest arc and built up the 魔法少女見習い class. Fights I couldn't win previously are now very doable if I bulk up on levels and use the correct spells (previously just using warrior abilities was impossible since elemental weaknesses could not be exploited).

Now I can use 4 entry-level classes and 1 intermediate class. Both of the virgin-only classes remain open and can be trained. Now that I'm on the 2nd period of free-roam, I'll need to recheck the blog and see what I need to do to stop the stuffed animal from dying on me.

 

[shadowthief]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

ok here is a question,how in the nine hells do you clear the fairy forest arc?...I just entered the forest and I accidental started the arc....and now I'm pretty much stuck,I did manage to kill the water scorpion (after tons of grinding) and when I finally thought that I was gonna get the hell out of that hell hole...a second encounter with a plant/fairy thing is in the way..and to top it off it's 1000 times harder than the scorpion...it doesn't matter if I manage to survive or not because in the end she keeps healing for 1500+ each and every fucking round making it impossible for me to kill it......is there some trick to it?..or did the game (and in extension its creator) just extended a big fuck you! on my general direction?

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

ok here is a question,how in the nine hells do you clear the fairy forest arc?...I just entered the forest and I accidental started the arc....and now I'm pretty much stuck,I did manage to kill the water scorpion (after tons of grinding) and when I finally thought that I was gonna get the hell out of that hell hole...a second encounter with a plant/fairy thing is in the way..and to top it off it's 1000 times harder than the scorpion...it doesn't matter if I manage to survive or not because in the end she keeps healing for 1500+ each and every fucking round making it impossible for me to kill it......is there some trick to it?..or did the game (and in extension its creator) just extended a big fuck you! on my general direction?

Just to confirm, you have started the fairy forest arc by beating the warrior who tried to sexually assault the girl from the orphanage right? If the time on your menu bar doesn't say "event", then you probably made it using cheat engine and I can't help you.

If you have made it through the arc and have beaten the scorpion, then the queen fairy should be doable since your companions let you in on her weakness.

You CAN cast magic right? Immolation when inflicted deals more damage than the 1500 HP regeneration.

The only thing you need to worry about is towards the end when the fairy queen powers up, the meteor shower she casts is fatal unless you can stop her from acting that turn. That way the quadruple barrier your off-screen companions cast can take effect and save you from nasty attacks thereafter.

I looked up the author's blog for tips on how to handle the fairy queen and the hints above are the easiest way to finish the queen off. One person did it without relying on immolation but that way is much harder and requires more grinding/luck during the battle.

 

[moogles]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

ok here is a question,how in the nine hells do you clear the fairy forest arc?...I just entered the forest and I accidental started the arc....and now I'm pretty much stuck,I did manage to kill the water scorpion (after tons of grinding) and when I finally thought that I was gonna get the hell out of that hell hole...a second encounter with a plant/fairy thing is in the way..and to top it off it's 1000 times harder than the scorpion...it doesn't matter if I manage to survive or not because in the end she keeps healing for 1500+ each and every fucking round making it impossible for me to kill it......is there some trick to it?..or did the game (and in extension its creator) just extended a big fuck you! on my general direction?

Few questions

1. What is the blog url? I Don't see it on dlsite, and the readme's has like 2 dozen urls

2. How did you start the fairy questline? I remember obliterating a plant and saw some fairy things, killed them all and more plants and jsut walked back out ...

3. Someone said equip a spellbook, and kill things. I've killed.. hundreds of mobs with "fire shot"? book, still haven't learned the spell from that book I got early on in the game... something else must be to it to learn spells.


I did post a save earlier thats at (and one that is past) the zombie fight. It should be strong enough to kill most anything in the game with no trouble. Everything hits her for 0 if they can even hit her (including spells) and she has about 45,000 or more hp. Has a 99% crit rate on most everything and hits for about 10,000-> 30,000+

 

[comradered]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Ngggghh, damnit. I reloaded a save in the beginning of the first free-days period. I talked to every person in every building, got some events, some I never saw (like the mage spamming fire inside the building with the crossed wands sign), and I still get the gangbang dead-end right after the zombie arc. I'm at my wits end here.

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Few questions

1. What is the blog url? I Don't see it on dlsite, and the readme's has like 2 dozen urls

2. How did you start the fairy questline? I remember obliterating a plant and saw some fairy things, killed them all and more plants and jsut walked back out ...

3. Someone said equip a spellbook, and kill things. I've killed.. hundreds of mobs with "fire shot"? book, still haven't learned the spell from that book I got early on in the game... something else must be to it to learn spells.


I did post a save earlier thats at (and one that is past) the zombie fight. It should be strong enough to kill most anything in the game with no trouble. Everything hits her for 0 if they can even hit her (including spells) and she has about 45,000 or more hp. Has a 99% crit rate on most everything and hits for about 10,000-> 30,000+

1.

You must be registered to see the links

is the author's blog.

2. You need to kill the crazed warrior who's trying to assault the girl from the orphanage. He appears from noon onwards on the 2nd day of the 2-day free roam period. Since you're using cheat engine, you probably thought the questline was going to the fairy forest and killing everything on sight.

3. That would be me. By the way, the item that says "W fire shot" is special and must first be deciphered in the phase of events where you take up a magician's apprenticeship. All other spell books and their spells are simple to use: equip one item in one of the two slots you have and go fight battles. After enough battle XP has been accrued, you should get a message saying you've learnt the spell. With the exception of the healing-related spells which can be used outside of combat, all damage-dealing spells can only be used in combat if your sub-class has the passive ability "fast-chant". As I'm aware, only the magician and priestess line of jobs has this ability.

Like virtually every other RPG discussed on this forum, if you're not proficient in the language and/or don't use some form of automatic translator you should just sit tight and wait for a translation/walkthrough by people like Etigoya etc.

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Ngggghh, damnit. I reloaded a save in the beginning of the first free-days period. I talked to every person in every building, got some events, some I never saw (like the mage spamming fire inside the building with the crossed wands sign), and I still get the gangbang dead-end right after the zombie arc. I'm at my wits end here.

Is your character a virgin at this point? If it isn't, the creator gives a warning on his blog that a lot of death flags have been set and need to be removed before you can continue. Since I don't have any idea what you're talking about, you might want to post a screenshot of the message given just before you see the gangbang dead-end.

 

[comradered]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Is your character a virgin at this point? If it isn't, the creator gives a warning on his blog that a lot of death flags have been set and need to be removed before you can continue. Since I don't have any idea what you're talking about, you might want to post a screenshot of the message given just before you see the gangbang dead-end.

Yes, my character is chaste. I spent the whole free period wandering around, looking for events to try and avoid this.

Here are some pics for it. I get sent to a map where I go with the old man and the wolf guy, and we have to kill this tentacle monster, which isn't a hard thing to do. Right after that, I get some text which I assume is me getting some new stuff. Then the scene skips to the room where she goes to sleep, then after she wakes up, she puffs out black stuff, then I get some more text, then its the gangbang dead end.

Edit: Huh, the picture is not supposed to be that small...

 

[ziodyne]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Ngggghh, damnit. I reloaded a save in the beginning of the first free-days period. I talked to every person in every building, got some events, some I never saw (like the mage spamming fire inside the building with the crossed wands sign), and I still get the gangbang dead-end right after the zombie arc. I'm at my wits end here.

Did you fight the mage and beat her? I had to do everything I COULD to get the gangbang ending because I'm not sure what triggers it, but I did find out beating the mage after the zombie invasion is how you get out of the gangbang ending.

 

[comradered]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Did you fight the mage and beat her? I had to do everything I COULD to get the gangbang ending because I'm not sure what triggers it, but I did find out beating the mage after the zombie invasion is how you get out of the gangbang ending.

I don't even get to do anything after the whole zombie event. I just skip to a new map altogether after beating the last boss of the zombie town. After that, well, there you go, gangbang.

 

[aasa]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

I don't even get to do anything after the whole zombie event. I just skip to a new map altogether after beating the last boss of the zombie town. After that, well, there you go, gangbang.

YEAH I DID LOOSE TO THE MAGE THE FIRST TRY, BUT DIDNT REALLY THINK IT MATTERED SINCE THE REST IS THE SAME, OR DOES IT CHANGE FOR YOU?

I'M LIKING THE GAME, BUT WILL PROBABLY WAIT TO SEE IF SOMEONE IN SOME PERIOD OF TIME ACTUALLY MANAGES TO TRANSLATE THE MONSTROUS AMOUNT OF TEXT TO READ.

ALSO HOW EXACTLY DO YOU FIND THE ITEM TO KEEP ADVANCING AT THAT POINT, IS IT IN SOME SPECIFIC POINT? OR DOES IT RANDOMLY SPANS IN ANY OF THE LAST FLOORS OF THE UNDERGROUND DUNGEON?, OR MAYBE I COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD WHERE IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE?

THE ONE THING I HATE ABOUT THE GAME IS THE RANDOM DUNGEONS, I ALWAYS HATE RANDOM DUNGEONS

 

[moogles]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

I don't even get to do anything after the whole zombie event. I just skip to a new map altogether after beating the last boss of the zombie town. After that, well, there you go, gangbang.

The save I posted didn't get that, I'll post another save later at the very last boss of the zombie event. It is possible the gang bang GoR happens from not saving everyone...?


I'll try the spell learning thing again, because apparently you won't learn anything if you never do the first spellbook

only thing I cheat engine was gil basically, then bought up stats. the only thing I noticed cheat engine really mess up, is how if you buff the body armor stats too high, it can cause some strange glitches.

p.s. I am using a translator type thing, just that it doesn't make 100% sense on what it is saying to do

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Yes, my character is chaste. I spent the whole free period wandering around, looking for events to try and avoid this.

Here are some pics for it. I get sent to a map where I go with the old man and the wolf guy, and we have to kill this tentacle monster, which isn't a hard thing to do. Right after that, I get some text which I assume is me getting some new stuff. Then the scene skips to the room where she goes to sleep, then after she wakes up, she puffs out black stuff, then I get some more text, then its the gangbang dead end.

Edit: Huh, the picture is not supposed to be that small...

I've got that ending. That happened the first time round when I was a non-virgin. Since you can't read the text, basically she loses her powers since her stuffed animal "dies" due to lack of mana. Because of that, she has to survive in the new world by selling herself.

I suspect you get this ending if 1. you're no longer a virgin. 2. You run out of mana during the course of the day. 3. The stuffed animal's durability goes to zero at any time during the day.
First time round, I couldn't beat the 3 warriors at the end of the zombie invasions so I didn't fight the mage. Second time round, I did beat the mage so that probably confirms one theory.

I just finished a run where I managed to successfully complete a day's worth of events and adventuring without any problems. So long as I keep up my debt payments, Iruda and the bank don't pester me. It's really not a problem since one dungeon run to the 10th level and back with a companion can bring in over 20000+ gold from loot and monster drops.

The progress of other players is freakish, there's talk already of players beating the labyrinth level 30 boss as well as possible endings!

 

[moogles]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

I've got that ending. That happened the first time round when I was a non-virgin. Since you can't read the text, basically she loses her powers since her stuffed animal "dies" due to lack of mana. Because of that, she has to survive in the new world by selling herself.

I suspect you get this ending if 1. you're no longer a virgin. 2. You run out of mana during the course of the day. 3. The stuffed animal's durability goes to zero at any time during the day.
First time round, I couldn't beat the 3 warriors at the end of the zombie invasions so I didn't fight the mage. Second time round, I did beat the mage so that probably confirms one theory.

I just finished a run where I managed to successfully complete a day's worth of events and adventuring without any problems. So long as I keep up my debt payments, Iruda and the bank don't pester me. It's really not a problem since one dungeon run to the 10th level and back with a companion can bring in over 20000+ gold from loot and monster drops.

The progress of other players is freakish, there's talk already of players beating the labyrinth level 30 boss as well as possible endings!

How do you even progress the labrynth? I get to like floor 10 in some ice room, she says something about winter clothes.. and won't go. I bought every single clothes item and she still won't enter...?

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Not sure about that. I'm going to spend a little time levelling my character with dungeon runs in order to fill out most of the apprentice skills. I suspect it's something to do with either the police chief or the town mayor since that was hinted at in the text just before the start of the free roam period.

I can't enter the mayor's office at all, even when it's open. Somehow there's a chain of events to get the item required to ward off cold but I've yet to figure out the trigger.

 

[comradered]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

I've got that ending. That happened the first time round when I was a non-virgin. Since you can't read the text, basically she loses her powers since her stuffed animal "dies" due to lack of mana. Because of that, she has to survive in the new world by selling herself.

I suspect you get this ending if 1. you're no longer a virgin. 2. You run out of mana during the course of the day. 3. The stuffed animal's durability goes to zero at any time during the day.
First time round, I couldn't beat the 3 warriors at the end of the zombie invasions so I didn't fight the mage. Second time round, I did beat the mage so that probably confirms one theory.

I just finished a run where I managed to successfully complete a day's worth of events and adventuring without any problems. So long as I keep up my debt payments, Iruda and the bank don't pester me. It's really not a problem since one dungeon run to the 10th level and back with a companion can bring in over 20000+ gold from loot and monster drops.

The progress of other players is freakish, there's talk already of players beating the labyrinth level 30 boss as well as possible endings!

Hmm, that sounds simple enough. I can rule out the virginity issue, since I wasn't running around trying to get her raped. That leaves the MP and durability issues. By MP, do you mean your own character's MP pool in battle? That might have been the case for me, since the reaper boss in the police station had that skill that emptied my mp in one go. Also, how do you confirm the durability of the stuffed animal?

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Hmm, that sounds simple enough. I can rule out the virginity issue, since I wasn't running around trying to get her raped. That leaves the MP and durability issues. By MP, do you mean your own character's MP pool in battle? That might have been the case for me, since the reaper boss in the police station had that skill that emptied my mp in one go. Also, how do you confirm the durability of the stuffed animal?

During the free-roam period first time round, I did a solo run through the dungeon. During the run, I ran out of mana thanks to mana drain attacks. That might have screwed me over.

As for durability, it's the usual thing for items. The stuffed animal normally occupies the helmet slot. If it breaks even once, there might be trouble.

Another possibility for the bad end might simply be failing to beat the mage at the graveyard.