ACT [ MOSABOX ] [ モサボックス ] Samurai Sacrament / サムライ・さくらメント RE155385 RJ155385

[dood]

Re: Samurai Sacrament (Act)

I can understand if the argument is Iris has better CG but the argument is Iris is a better game OVERALL. I'm currently making a platformer game so I'm interested in the reason behind the argument.

Best guess would have to be that Iris action had more monsters and very good animated scenes while Samurai sacrament has small sprite work (which handles zoom somewhat well) but mostly its a girl getting raped by big burley men.

In terms of gameplay, Samurai sacrement is also kinda slow, there are multiple enemies that block repeatedly and take well over 5 hits to kill. The majority of Iris action can be played by simply skipping over the enemies or killing them in like 1-3 hits.

All in all though, I don't really see why anyone would be comparing the two. The two games clearly have a different design philosophy. Samurai sacrement has lots of game changing items to pick up while Iris action has few if any. Iris action depends more on its game over CG animations than its sprite animations while in samurai sacrement this is the opposite. Samurai sacrement is best compared to other linear item hunt games (i.e games where the level is linear but you want to find items hidden in the level) such as eroico, destroy destiny kanon chan or lab still alive.

Really both games are great and its hard to recommend one over the other. It really just devolves down to preference in terms of what kind of H-content you like seeing.

 

[Lewdovico]

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I would also argue that how elaborate Sacrament is works against it as an H-game. Not only does the "beefiness" of enemies make it a slower game to play, but the complicated mana-cast system really makes it way more complex than it needed to be. Not a lot of people are looking for much of a challenge with these kinds of games, which is why bosses, especially the lava horse-dog guy, put people off from it.

Also the gallery viewer is poorly done and the sounds were the same ones in Shinobi Girl (...right?) both of which detract from it a little bit.

I recall someone said that it could have plausibly removed the porn and just be on Steam? Was that something that someone actually said or did I imagine it?

 

[dijitz]

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I personally think the problem is more with the users as opposed to the design. I say this because how often you see people wanting save files just to get the gallery open simply to look at the porn. It's like the game is secondary which is also most likely why we don't have many real good games with H content because people don't care so much about the game portion.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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I personally think the problem is more with the users as opposed to the design. I say this because how often you see people wanting save files just to get the gallery open simply to look at the porn. It's like the game is secondary which is also most likely why we don't have many real good games with H content because people don't care so much about the game portion.

I don't understand this at all. There's so much porn outside of games. When I play hentai games, My interest is usually around 80% gameplay, 20% porn. I'd never bother playing a game that people say is terrible (or it seems terrible from previews), even if the art is great. You can usually find the stuff ripped to h sites after a while anyways. I do sometimes avoid games that have complete trash art though, so it's not like it doesn't matter at all lol.

When I see people ask for full saves/gallery passes right off the bat for a really great game, I facepalm a bit.

It is pretty sad to see medicore rpg maker games sell as well or better than high quality action games like this. What's strange is even the hentai in this was really great. 4500 sales isn't bad of course, but I see shitty rpg makers with 4-6k all the time just because they hired a good artist. Not like this game is even over priced or anything.

 

[HentaiWriter]

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I personally think the problem is more with the users as opposed to the design. I say this because how often you see people wanting save files just to get the gallery open simply to look at the porn. It's like the game is secondary which is also most likely why we don't have many real good games with H content because people don't care so much about the game portion.

I did a poll recently asking people what they wanted to see most in my h-game; while #1 was sex animations of course, #2 by only 2 votes was storyline/plot, and #3 was gameplay, also by only 1 vote.

More people want plot/gameplay in their sex games than you'd think

 

[super_slicer]

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Make a spectacle fighter H-game and then you'll get me interested in the gameplay.

Mind, I'm not one to tell a dev to drop (reasonable) features for the sake of accelerating pron. Just played enough 2d platformers/fighters/terribleRPGS for a lifetime.

 

[dijitz]

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I did a poll recently asking people what they wanted to see most in my h-game; while #1 was sex animations of course, #2 by only 2 votes was storyline/plot, and #3 was gameplay, also by only 1 vote.

More people want plot/gameplay in their sex games than you'd think

It may be a little bit biased though, as those people are more than likely paying for it. If someone's dropping money on it, they usually want something that'll last more than just looking at a gallery. I will say story is another culprit on why people don't get into the games too much since we can't understand Japanese. I know I'd get so much more enjoyment from SS if only I knew what was even going on. I'm totally amped for Future Fragments because of this!

Make a spectacle fighter H-game and then you'll get me interested in the gameplay.

Mind, I'm not one to tell a dev to drop (reasonable) features for the sake of accelerating pron. Just played enough 2d platformers/fighters/terribleRPGS for a lifetime.

I completely feel ya. I wish Illusion would get into doing games like des blood, battle raper and such again. What would have been awesome is if Teatime and Illusion had combined forces.

 

[erobotan]

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for me, part of the charm of playing H-games is seeing the heroine struggle so I appreciate difficult (as long as it's still fair) enemies more than easier ones that can be skipped by jumping/die in 1-3 hits. Finding the correct difficulty level is a very tricky to do though.

I'm bad at playing platformer though so for me even Iris Action is still very difficult XD. I tried the demo and can't even finish it ... but i can't find any excitement despite it being difficult by my standard (maybe because the sprite sex is not very detailed). Judging by everyone's comment i think i can understand a little why some people prefer Iris Action though. It will be useful info for my platformer game even though my game will still be gameplay oriented.

 

[melontable]

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So I've started playing this, and I'm really wondering what some of the items do; I searched the thread and I could only find descriptions of the unique collectible things, like the "turbo thong" etc..

On the attached picture are the ones I'm talking about, along the right side.
So, 1 is the thing that enables self-buffing.
2 gives you more mana slots.
3?? Looks like a spark plug, thing it was "soul accelerator" or something.
5?? Got this but don't know what it does either.

That's all I've got so far but it'd be good to have descriptions for the other items.

 

[zendreon]

I don't mean to necro this thread but mosabox said they secretly added a new difficulty by the name of "Extreme Erosion"(?) I believe. if someone could check out their blog to properly translate it (cuz I can't read moonrunes), it would be greatly appreciated! also, the update description was added to the game's dlsite page too! sadly, I don't think it's any additional h-content but it's really nice to know they've still been working behind the scenes!

 

[super_slicer]

OP not up to standard for old threads, requires description. PM myself, Darkfire or Jesus with an update to the OP or when you have updated the OP.