(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I agree with Gromelon, Larcx and others who share similar views. Also making a non-h version makes it more accessible to a larger market audience. The h-scenes are a very insignificant portion of the game. Removing the h-scenes should not be difficult at all. Writing some decent back stories might be difficult but if a competent writer is hired then that should by no means be a problem.

kids are not the answer to a game ever look what it did to cod thats the only market it would touch and theres already a ton of them around most likely as its super easy to lie on the internet so you gain nothing but hate from those who enjoy it no matter how much there is
i dont know much about coding but i know changing anything can easily destroy everything at times

Why is everyone talking about removing or keeping h scenes? The devs aren't going to put in a bunch of extra work on superfluous content when they can't even give us the basic content of the game.

It's not even a solution to anything, anyway.

this is the smartest stuff ive seen on this matter i agree a 100%

 

[alpha10th]

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Why are ppl assuming it's more work to localize non-h Aigis?

They already have non-h Aigis made in DMM.
It's not like they have to make non-h version just for Nutaku.

In fact, it's less work since h version localizing needs to remove censors.

There's nothing to change when localizing non-h version other than translation.

 

[razisgosu]

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Why are ppl assuming it's more work to localize non-h Aigis?

They already have non-h Aigis made in DMM.
It's not like they have to make non-h version just for Nutaku.

In fact, it's less work since h version localizing needs to remove censors.

There's nothing to change when localizing non-h version other than translation.

Double the translation work, double the coding for the translation work, double the maintenance work.

Currently English Aigis has 1 code base to worry about. Adding an all ages version now makes it 2 code bases they have to worry about. You have to code both, QA both, and launch both. It's without a doubt more work.

 

[alpha10th]

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Double the translation work, double the coding for the translation work, double the maintenance work.

Currently English Aigis has 1 code base to worry about. Adding an all ages version now makes it 2 code bases they have to worry about. You have to code both, QA both, and launch both. It's without a doubt more work.

So ditch the h version. Problem solved.

 

[khawk016]

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So ditch the h version. Problem solved.

then all those who want h content will leave this is the entire probem we are having right now here someone said remove h content and everyones jumping on the bandwagon

 

[alpha10th]

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then all those who want h content will leave

Tha's besides my point. My point was when choosing one or the other, non-h is less work, less road blocks, less all of our current headaches.

 

[Ertx]

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Why are ppl assuming it's more work to localize non-h Aigis?

They already have non-h Aigis made in DMM.
It's not like they have to make non-h version just for Nutaku.

In fact, it's less work since h version localizing needs to remove censors.

There's nothing to change when localizing non-h version other than translation.

It's more work because they need to translate and bring everything over for all the existing characters in the game that already have h-scenes. And it's more work if you choose to offer both h-scenes and non-h scenes. I've been under the impression that the Aigis devs have the uncensored source art, so it's not exactly extra work to uncensor them.

And the amount of work involved doesn't change the fact that this is a silly discussion. I don't see them switching Aigis to the non-h version with no h alternative. And they shouldn't, because there's no real reason to.

 

[razisgosu]

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So ditch the h version. Problem solved.

Right... because all the people playing an adult game for the adult content will love that.

Aigis is a 2 fold game.

1. A gacha collector, harem collection game. What is the point of a harem collection without H scenes? That pretty much defeats the purpose.

2. A solid TD.

 

[khawk016]

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Tha's besides my point. My point was when choosing one or the other, non-h is less work, less road blocks, less all of our current headaches.

all of fkg and aisha show there are no roadbumps left to go over with h content currently its something we dont know is going on

 

[alpha10th]

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IMO Aigis h content is subpar.
No voice, still images with very few variations, blue men evrywhere.

The game stands on its own as a game.

If I have to ditch the worse point of the game for its excellent point, I'd vote for that.

I.E if i can get all the units for the price of bad h content, so be it.

 

[khawk016]

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IMO Aigis h content is subpar.
No voice, still images with very few variations, blue men evrywhere.

The game stands on its own as a game.

If I have to ditch the worse point of the game for its excellent point, I'd vote for that.

I.E if i can get all the units for the price of bad h content, so be it.

i understand that but some if not most dont see it as subpar there are far worse h content games and the ones with better scenes dont have as many or the game itself sucks

 

[Xion]

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Look at Larcx's reputation.

Then keep in mind that, if I remember right, he said he quit this game months ago to play the DMM version. How many posts a week does he still add to this thread?

All he does here is post vitriol. I'm long past caring about anything Larcx has to say, no matter how small a grain of truth may or may not be in it.

I don't think to much about the rep, i got a bad rep cause someone did like my comments on the game needing more male units, i was like WTH? So i never pay to much attention to what it could mean. He is still playing so i think that give in the rigth to say a thing or two if he wants, and is not a a lie that we the players are being treated poorly without explanation in this point it goes beyond frustration.

But whatever man i stop asking for anwsers, now i just play with what we get, i was force to change to dmm to get the full aigis experience so there's that.

Personally, I would pick character talk over h-scenes thou. Without knowing characters more personally, this type of hentai feels empty, and girls are giving off prostitute vibe. Give gems, get body - no need to know each other.

Well is not like you need to actually play the two, since the data is share with the same account you just need to get the scenes once and then go to whatever side that you play. (At least that's how it works for me but i can't read moon runes so i just settle with the art of the H-ver)

 

[alpha10th]

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i understand that but most dont see it as subpar there are far worse h content games and the ones with better scenes dont have as many or the game itself sucks

Oh man, I didn't know ppl had such low standard for good h content. Then nvm.

 

[Ertx]

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IMO Aigis h content is subpar.
No voice, still images with very few variations, blue men evrywhere.

The game stands on its own as a game.

If I have to ditch the worse point of the game for its excellent point, I'd vote for that.

I.E if i can get all the units for the price of bad h content, so be it.

Firstly, Nutaku's entire thing is that they bring over h-games. They have their .com site for non-h alternatives, and for games that have no NSFW version, but it kind of goes against the point of the company and the site to only have the SFW version of Aigis.

Secondly, you seem to be working with the misguided assumption that going to the non-h version will magically get us all of our missing units. It's been long established that the reason for us not having (at the very least, most of) the units we're missing is because the devs just haven't bothered putting them in. We have Aisha in the game, which by itself justifies having pretty much every unit we're missing.

This discussion boils down to 'let's change it for the sake of changing it'.

 

[khawk016]

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Oh man, I didn't know ppl had such low standard for good h content. Then nvm.

not everyone can be shadman (insert any other really good artist really) way better content means less units this is the best ive seen and i mean some of these are really good i find it very good in some cases with a good game tied to it

 

[alpha10th]

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Firstly, Nutaku's entire thing is that they bring over h-games. They have their .com site for non-h alternatives, and for games that have no NSFW version, but it kind of goes against the point of the company and the site to only have the SFW version of Aigis.

Secondly, you seem to be working with the misguided assumption that going to the non-h version will magically get us all of our missing units. It's been long established that the reason for us not having (at the very least, most of) the units we're missing is because the devs just haven't bothered putting them in. We have Aisha in the game, which by itself justifies having pretty much every unit we're missing.

This discussion boils down to 'let's change it for the sake of changing it'.

Only thing I agree with you is that this discussion is not productive.

But the devs had to remove them for a reason.
That reason goes away with non-h.

Oh that Aisha? She looked reel good in that banner, huh?
They are not completely out of the hole that buried them in the first place.

 

[Ertx]

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Oh that Aisha? She looked reel good in that banner, huh?
They are not out of the hole that buried them in the first place.

Never understood that argument. Maybe I just didn't realize that her being taken out of a banner changed the fact that she was in the game, unedited and uncensored.

Not sure if you play other Nutaku games, but there are plenty of h scenes with plenty of characters that are as egregious as Iris and Dina, and waaaay moreso than Mischa and Kagerou/Yurina (which they apparently had a censorship-related reason to not add to the game, according to you).

The big censorship debate is perpetrated by a few select people despite a ton of evidence that things have changed over the past half-year or so, when the more likely solution is just that the devs can't be bothered to go back and add those units.

 

[Nattorei]

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Oh man, I didn't know ppl had such low standard for good h content. Then nvm.

That's a cold and lofty statement man. I think the art is decent for most units. I still really like some scenes like Rita #1 and Cecily #1. I actually *prefer* there to be no sounds. I don't like the drawn out moaning, incessant calling of the MC's name, and the "I'm gonna"'s. And even if the voices and dialogue were good, I wouldn't be able to understand them. I like anime, but I still need it in my own language to get the most out of it.

And specifically about this, I remember my own guys giving me the same reaction when I said LoV art was okay/good.

With that said, I don't need the scenes and actually would prefer backstory.

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As for this random discussion on work and effort, it should be very little work if they ever want to add in the all-ages backstory. Code-wise, all it takes is changing the females affection system to the males. Now I have little to no coding experience, but that has to be like a five minute fix. All that matters is more translation work as every future female unit will have four scenes in need of translation instead of two.

 

[alpha10th]

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That's a cold and lofty statement man. I think the art is decent for most units. I still really like some scenes like Rita #1 and Cecily #1. I actually *prefer* there to be no sounds. I don't like the drawn out moaning, incessant calling of the MC's name, and the "I'm gonna"'s. And even if the voices and dialogue were good, I wouldn't be able to understand them. I like anime, but I still need it in my own language to get the most out of it.

And specifically about this, I remember my own guys giving me the same reaction when I said LoV art was okay/good.

With that said, I don't need the scenes and actually would prefer backstory.

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As for this random discussion on work and effort, it should be very little work if they ever want to add in the all-ages backstory. Code-wise, all it takes is changing the females affection system to the males. Now I have little to no coding experience, but that has to be like a five minute fix. All that matters is more translation work as every future female unit will have four scenes in need of translation instead of two.

I have no issue with the art either. And ok maybe voice or not is taste.
But there's 0 excuse for IBM blue man. Eeeek

w/e happens just get me missing units and constant events.
Dont care if it's non-h or non-non-h.
I'd be willing to even suffer green man and orange man.

Eeeeeeek

 

[khawk016]

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I have no issue with the art either. And ok maybe voice or not is taste.
But there's 0 excuse for IBM blue man. Eeeek

w/e happens just get me missing units and constant events.
Dont care if it's non-h or non-non-h.
I'd be willing to even suffer green man and orange man.

Eeeeeeek

i dont quite understand this blue man hate yuyu seems to enjoy him