(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Eab1990]

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I mean, you people do argue about much more mundane shit, the classic scenario of this thread being 'MY WAIFU IS THE BEST UNIT, YOUR WAIFU A SHITTY GIMMICK UNIT, FUCK YOU', followed up by walls of text of mathematical analysis of stats and whatever of how superior their waifu is.
Which is then followed by vicious shit-flinging back and forth, because insulting a waifu here is like insulting Muhammad if you're Muslim.

It literally happened like a dozen pages back from today, and was related to Liana, I didn't pay much attention.

I don't think I'm in the wrong at all by my adamant stance of this game's questionable improvements as a whole. The only party I'm painting as the guilty one here is Nutaku's shitty management, or arguably the elusive Japanese devs' attitude (fuck me for having to state this EVERY TIME, because we just DON'T KNOW who is actually responsible).

You do realize that putting yourself in the same position as Angelic REALLY isn't doing you any favors, right?

The one thing I will admit is that Aigis devs could learn a thing or two about generosity from Kamihime devs, but at this point, c'est la vie.

 

[Fayne]

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Case in point. I don't even have to comment on this.

Noone said you are not right that the DMM version is superior.
After almost two years of playing, being frustrated and complaining (both, in forums and in support tickets) I had two choices:
Stop playing the game completely or play the superior DMM version. I chose the latter, because I still liked the game a lot. And I don't regret it. If I regret something it's not starting a DMM account a lot earlier.

I get the feeling the Japanese devs are blissfully unaware of the fact that WE are aware of the state of things in DMM Aigis. Like their pathetic little IP blocks actually do prevent the filthy gaijins from seeing how things are in the original version.

[...]and go make an account on DMM through a proxy, start anew[...]

I don't think they are unaware. They just don't give a fuck. The money we spent on the game is worth one or two people to work parttime on the game. Not more. Hence we don't get more than they can do (because they don't want or need to).

Also there is no IP block or necessity of proxies. You can simply log into the game via the homepage, the android app or the iOs app.

3) Where's our compensation for the time when things were bad? We just picked up the normal schedule where we left off after going through it.

Still not true. We never had a constant event-schedule with back to back events (except for the ~six weeks after the three months break, where they had for events or something in the backlog and introduced thm back to back). Therefore we didn't go back to "the normal schedule where we left off", we had an improvement.

I mean, you people do argue about much more mundane shit, the classic scenario of this thread being 'MY WAIFU IS THE BEST UNIT, YOUR WAIFU A SHITTY GIMMICK UNIT, FUCK YOU', followed up by walls of text of mathematical analysis of stats and whatever of how superior their waifu is.
Which is then followed by vicious shit-flinging back and forth, because insulting a waifu here is like insulting Muhammad if you're Muslim.

I agree that the Liana discussion was even more stupid and unnecessary. But this doesn't really make it a good discussion. It's simply the second worst discussion and related to the Liana discussion. Honestly, the "Nutaku and DMM are the pure evil" takes up more than 50 % of this threads pages. Let's just say we have talked about it for quite a bit. I'd even say enough.

 

[hanamura7]

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So i just started playing this game and im loving it so far. Anyone got some advice for a beginner like me.

 

[alpha10th]

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So i just started playing this game and im loving it so far. Anyone got some advice for a beginner like me.

Wiki is good place to start for general info.

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Start with a guide -> beginner's guide.
Any specific questions you can ask here.

But keep in mind that some questions will be answered with opinions.
(e.g. Is this unit good?)
At the end, it will be you who makes the final call after listening to others, looking at stat and descriptions, or watching vids.

Have fun!
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[The Overgoat]

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So i just started playing this game and im loving it so far. Anyone got some advice for a beginner like me.

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Read through this, it may be a bit old, but covers the basics quite well. If you still have questions afterwards, then go ahead and ask them. We'll be helpful. Probably...

Edit: Damn, got ninja'd... -.-

 

[khawk016]

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I mean, you people do argue about much more mundane shit, the classic scenario of this thread being 'MY WAIFU IS THE BEST UNIT, YOUR WAIFU A SHITTY GIMMICK UNIT, FUCK YOU', followed up by walls of text of mathematical analysis of stats and whatever of how

look you gotta defend the waifus theres no way around that
but in all seriousness in what boils down to a waifu td this was bound to happen i mean this is still the internet after all

 

[Zero Zet]

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So i just started playing this game and im loving it so far. Anyone got some advice for a beginner like me.

Wiki is already ben listed, but another good recourses are

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and

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Beginners Guide already covers this as its first two points, but it is still worth reiterating: NEVER Class evolve the unit you intend to use in your fighting force before hitting level 50 with it, that 20 levels of stats are lost permanently.
And DO NOT use up Silver rarity units game gives you in the beginning as combine fodder. Platinum rarity units need three silvers to Class Evolve (when Gold and Silver rarity ones need 1), and much later Awakening needs three Class-Evolved Silvers (so 6 base silvers). So save them up for that.
Ah yes, rarity goes as Iron - Bronze - Silver - Gold - Platinum - Black, from lowest to highest. Usually, higher rarity units have more power than lower rarity ones, but not always. It really comes down to the combination of stats, skills, Awakening abilities and such. And some units of the same class just fulfil quite a different roles.

With Sacred Crystals (premium currency) you'll be getting from three-starring the maps your first priority is to buy all the barrack space upgrades and then second barracks. But you only want to spend your SCs in multiplies of 50, to receive a better

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in the next month. Third Barracks can wait, but eventually you'll want to buy it as well. Yes, that Premium Summon button's call is very tempting and hard to resist, but it's actually the trap
Alternatively you can blow up all your starting SCs on Premium Summons and if results are not good (and they usually are) abandon that account and restart anew on new one. Can't really recommend that personally, as, while yes, starting with a Black rarity unit (that is not Liana), or one of especially useful / overpowered Platinums will carry your account places, actually obtaining good initial rolls may take A LOT of rerolling, and really, game is designed to be clearable with only free units.

1.2x (account) EXP and 1.5x Gold

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buffs can greatly speed up your progress. If you have SC to spare, keep them up.

Play some more time, and if you find this game truly to your liking, and don't mind spending a bit of real money on it, the

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is amazing value.

 

[0nymous]

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So i just started playing this game and im loving it so far. Anyone got some advice for a beginner like me.

Go play the Japanese DMM version.

 

[khawk016]

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yes come join us on the dark side we have nookies

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a ui guide and a

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to the site if you wanted to do so no pressure this side is fine just not as far along and slowly getting better

 

[razisgosu]

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We don't know that. We are all basing this off the benefit of the doubt to what Nutaku says. Is there a documented, single statement in Japanese from the DMM/ Aigis team even at least acknowledging the existence of English Aigis?

So you're choosing to blame someone who it has been stated isn't in control. Rather than blame the one who has been stated is in control. Do you have any source Nutaku is lying here? What does Nutaku stand to gain by claiming they don't control Aigis when they really do?

Do you really think Annas sister would cost equal to its DMM counterpart if Nutaku was controlling the show? I certainly don't. Not if any of Nutakus recent games have anything to say about it.

You're being paranoid. Its that simple.

What you continue to be wrong about is improvements. If you can't see that the stability of the games environment has improved since last year, then you're beyond help.

 

[The Overgoat]

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With Sacred Crystals (premium currency) you'll be getting from three-starring the maps your first priority is to buy all the barrack space upgrades and then second barracks.

I have to disagree on that one. I mean, yeah, buy the barrack upgrades. But the second barracks can really wait. After about... what's it... 1,5-2 years I'm still on one barrack and not really feeling the pressure for a second one, let alone a third: at the moment I have 20 empty spaces and after the awakenings I want to pull next week this number will just go up. And that's with me keeping one copy of every silver+ unit. On DMM, sure with the daily revival system and the constant barrage of silvers I 'm overcrowded even on 2 barracks. On Nutaku though, there's really not much of a hurry buying the second barrack.

 

[PAAL]

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Everybody's situation is different, I have needed all barrack spaces for a long time, and typically my main barrack has 200 units with 2nd barrack at around 230-240 (silver and event units) and 3rd barrack at 220-240 (handful of event units plus spirits and plat cans). I have even begun consuming silver units on some newer ones to reduce cost and skill up for Misha, Nenya and Khuri.

 

[Orion]

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I too need many much space.

Spoiler

Third Barracks did dip a bit though from mass leveling Claire, Daisy, and Rika

Alrighty, both the Main and the Alt managed to get 1k kills in one run. Wasn't sure what to do with the Alt at first, but then I remembered it has Sybilla who makes quick work on the flying Oni brothers at the end.

 

[Sashas]

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I got the 1k kills today too, it took until I realized I was better off without any healers before about 930+ giving me the right positions to block everything and kill the stuff at the end. Trying to heal and block the cats was annoying and I don't watch guides.
That boss at 500 did come very close to killing 4 people so I can't reccomend it.

 

[0nymous]

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You're being paranoid. Its that simple.

Or you're naive. I have no source claiming Nutaku is not lying as well. Checkmate atheists.
What do they have to gain? Well, everything, and nothing. Feeding your fanbase fake hopes and expectations is what kept a lot of games in various industries going. Ever heard of Kickstarter?

Besides, Nutaku is known for a lot of scummy practices in the past, mostly regarding censorship, cutting content, not delivering on promises, and their pathetic excuses as to why they do all that. The pinnacle of which was their infamous laughing_anime_girl.gif two-sentence post about 'lol guys we're not actually going to improve Aigis BUT THE JAP DEVS ARE BACK'.

Do you really think Annas sister would cost equal to its DMM counterpart if Nutaku was controlling the show? I certainly don't. Not if any of Nutakus recent games have anything to say about it.

What, like FKG? AFAIK the situation there isn't that bad, and the prices aren't bloated, they even got a Japanese novel-exclusive unit recently, though through the gacha only. Not to mention - bi-weekly maintenance updates, with events and revivals non-stop since launch, in absolute stability aside from occasional minor day hiccups (there's still plenty features missing and the speed of their implementation is one of my gripes very similar to the one in Aigis, but it's a different topic).

And make up your mind. Is Nutaku the good guy here with DevTea being the bad guys, or are Nutaku the bad guys for bloating prices and mishandling localized games?
We could argue about Nutaku driving other titles to the ground (X-Overd as the most recent example I'm familiar with), but frankly, I don't care, and it's a red herring argument anyways (the main reason here was the fact X-Overd was shit).


Fuck, I was willing to let go of this topic, but you are seriously just gobbling all of this up. I'm 'beyond help' for not noticing their lackluster """improvement""" in the field of STABLE STREAM OF EVENTS ONLY???
Yes it's really fucking nice but how bout' dem majins. How bout dat Prince AW with Anna's great adventure. How bout dem balance updates. How bout dat UI update. How bout dem daily missions. How bout all those shitloads of SC we are not ever getting. How bout that black unit ticket. How bout dat secretary. How bout dat Liana. How bout

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How bout dem TP rotations. How bout dat skill AW. How bout dem level 55 silvers. How bout dem 20 rainbow crystals per silver gacha draw. Etc. etc.
If you wanna nitpick all that and find out what content we SHOULDN'T be getting chronologically, be my guest, make us a fucking table. I didn't mention the bonding missions and AW2 already, because I know frogs will fucking fly before I see that in English.

Please tell me what else do you mean by "stability of the games environment", which is such a loaded term, it could mean anything, beginning with the fact the game is available to us in the first place. Should I be on my knees just because of that?
PRAISE NUTAKU. GLORY TO NUTAKU. NUTAKU WOULD NOT LIE. NUTAKU DOES NOT NEED TO LIE. AIGIS IS GREAT. NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

Go ahead, shill all the fuck you want with your replies, boys.

 

[alpha10th]

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Random post, but if anyone's wondering, the maximum number of Crystal Pieces you can carry is 999.

Looks like I just lost 4 b/c of this.

 

[razisgosu]

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I'm talking about x-overd specifically. Their prices were astronimical compared to DMM. That was nutaku owned. Aigis's prices have been consistent with DMM, its DMM owned. Nutaku is bad for bloating prices of other games, that was my whole point. This game is not Nutaku owned.

Yes you are beyond help. Improvements are improvements. Yet all you have to say is "wahhhh nothing is improving". Do you know what we have gotten in the last handful of months that we havent in years? Revivals, consistent events, tp rotation, gold rushes and dominations, missing units and missing events. Guess what, every single one of those is an improvement.

Prince awakening is a story mission. We will get it in time. We're what, 2 maybe 3 sets from getting it? A non issue. Story content is the one thing that has been consistently coming. Majins, did majins even exist for where we're at now? How about you complain about skill awakening first, which unless I'm mistaken is something we should have by now.

The balance updates we already got? The balance updates we received significantly earlier than DMM did i might add. Oh another improvement look at that.

Literally everything you just whined about is content that did not exist at our point in the game. We should not have it nor do we need it. I'm legitimately beginning to think you're just whining for the sake of whining at this point.

Stability, its not loaded at all. It means the game is stable. It has a future. One many people were not sure it would during the lengthy breaks.

There's no shilling here. You're just complaining about things that have no reason to be complained about. You want to bitch and moan? Go complain about skill awakening.

 

[0nymous]

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Man, you're full of shit, and just repeating yourself. I'm not complaining about no improvement, just not enough. And I'm certainly not 'beyond help' whatever the fuck kind of help you're thinking about. Mental help? Thanks for the opinion, doctor. How much do I owe for this professional medical assistance?

Yeah, Nutaku fucked up X-Overd, but X-Overd was a really flawed game in the first place and Nutaku's audience is far too limited to sustain flawed games.
And I'M talking about FKG anyways. Which is a model of success of Nutaku's handling. Not ideal, of course, far from perfect, but working out relatively well, with no unnecessary price bloating. AGAIN, NOT THE FUCKING POINT HERE.

Yeah, we started getting revivals. Alright. Regurgitated events. Great success! And I'm only half-ironic here. It was good and long overdue.

About balance changes - we actually received some of those earlier than our relative chronological reflection of Aigis on DMM in the past - so my question is, why stop there? It's possible to do it, why not continue? Heavy armors cost 1 UP less on DMM at the moment - they can update the English version to match that, like they did in the past, so why not do it again?

Literally everything you just whined about is content that did not exist at our point in the game.

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Sure, some of the things I mentioned, maybe, but some should be in our version for sure, like first Majin advents, or prince AW. OR F U C K I N G L I A NA.
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, and open up the 2014/2015 tables - 2015 is where we are...roughly. Notice how much of this shit never happened on English Aigis? The Gold Rushes in particular?
"Don't worry man it WILL happen eventually, you just have to trust Nutaku and wait patiently, we'll get all that in 2020 for sure :^)"
Yeah, fuck off.
See, the thing is, so much content has been outright skipped, inducting it into the game in its intended premise now (events laid out neatly in the appropriate weekly time frames to allow people to farm/finish them effectively) drags out the schedule further. I suppose this should be the basis of my argument, which I've mentioned by asking what about the justification for the 'empty' period of events - to plug that 'empty' hole.

We should not have it nor do we need it.

At this point you legitimately are willing to admit that you are fine eating shit. Well, I'm not. Call me an entitled whore, I think we deserve more. Including you.

Or you're a DMM Aigis player. In which case I don't even know why I'm typing. You don't give a single shit about English Aigis by definition - you are dedicated to the better version.

 

[razisgosu]

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Man, you're full of shit, and just repeating yourself. I'm not complaining about no improvement, just not enough. And I'm certainly not 'beyond help' whatever the fuck kind of help you're thinking about. Mental help? Thanks for the opinion, doctor. How much do I owe for this professional medical assistance?

50 SC will do nicely, you can leave it with the secretary. Being beyond help means your inability to understand that there has been improvement and the improvements you're demanding have no relevance on our spot in the games timeline.

Yeah, Nutaku fucked up X-Overd, but X-Overd was a really flawed game in the first place and Nutaku's audience is far too limited to sustain flawed games.
And I'M talking about FKG anyways. Which is a model of success of Nutaku's handling. Not ideal, of course, far from perfect, but working out relatively well, with no unnecessary price bloating. AGAIN, NOT THE FUCKING POINT HERE.

But it was very much the point. You tried to make the claim that Nutaku was running Aigis and trying to play off the original devs as the villains. The fact Nutaku's recent endeavors have been price gouging pieces of garbage vs this game being continuously properly priced, says something. FKG has been under Nutaku control for a while, its very possible that game was before the price gouging began. That was my whole point.

Yeah, we started getting revivals. Alright. Regurgitated events. Great success! And I'm only half-ironic here. It was good and long overdue.

About balance changes - we actually received some of those earlier than our relative chronological reflection of Aigis on DMM in the past - so my question is, why stop there? It's possible to do it, why not continue? Heavy armors cost 1 UP less on DMM at the moment - they can update the English version to match that, like they did in the past, so why not do it again?

Do you understand why they make balance changes? Because units are falling behind or out of favor for other classes. Heavy armor units got a UP reduction due to being underpowered in the current DMM environment. Are they underpowered in the current Nutaku envionment? No they are not, because we haven't gotten strong heavy armor replacement units like Hibari and the Emperor. We don't need the latest balance changes because our version has no need of them. They would only break the game that's already broken by the large amount of breaks we've received.

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Sure, some of the things I mentioned, maybe, but some should be in our version for sure, like first Majin advents, or prince AW.
Check

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, and open up the 2014/2015 tables - 2015 is where we are...roughly. Notice how much of this shit never happened on English Aigis? The Gold Rushes in particular?
"Don't worry man it WILL happen eventually, you just have to trust Nutaku and wait patiently, we'll get all that in 2020 for sure :^)"
Yeah, fuck off.
See, the thing is, so much content has been outright skipped, inducting it into the game in its intended premise now (events laid out neatly in the appropriate weekly time frames to allow people to farm/finish them effectively) drags out the schedule further. I suppose this should be the basis of my argument, which I've mentioned by asking what about the justification for the 'empty' period of events - to plug that 'empty' hole.

Yeah it sucks that the schedule got pushed out due to all those breaks years ago, but would you rather they skip units? The majority have spoken and nobody wants skipped events and units. The Gold rushes I already specifically said they skipped a lot, one of the things you should be complaining about. Nothing short of skipping massive amounts of content in droves would catch us up in content and functionality to DMM. Also, unless I'm mistaken it looks like the first Majin event occurred right around the time of the subjugation event we just got. So its quite plausible they will introduce that in the near future. Guess we will see, or add it to the list of missing content.

At this point you legitimately are willing to admit that you are fine eating shit. Well, I'm not. Call me an entitled whore, I think we deserve more. Including you.

Or you're a DMM Aigis player. In which case I don't even know why I'm typing. You don't give a single shit about English Aigis by definition - you are dedicated to the better version.

Except I'm not fine eating shit. I've been enjoying the constant events just fine. I'm sorry you're displeased, but complaining about bond events and level 55 silvers not being in the game is absolutely silly. That content has no relevance to 2015 Aigis, where we're at currently.

I am also a DMM player. I play both equally every day, so your statement is completely false. I started DMM around the end of 2015 when the English versions constant events stopped due to us catching up from the 6 week break period.

The better version? That would be the English version without a doubt. For me, uncensored pussy is far better than anything DMM offers.

 

[The Overgoat]

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Man, first the Liana nonsense, now this. When did this thread become a hotspot for flamewars?