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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


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Gold Rush maps are never coming back, why are people even hesitating to run them instead of dailies? :p
 
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Gold Rush maps are never coming back, why are people even hesitating to run them instead of dailies? :p

Because they're here for two weeks and it took me all of four runs to get today's done :rolleyes:
 
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So I see the younger units have been replaced by men.

Meanwhile in Pero, naked loli clear as day.

I can't believe some people here still buy the payment processor excuse. It's bullshit, it's always been bullshit, and Nutaku themselves have proven that it's bullshit in their other games.
 
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Again. Not second hand treatment. We are a year or so into the future of Aigis. At this current patch JP did have those changes either. So sit down and wait like a good boy for us to get to the point that the balance changes happen. If we don't get them at that point... then you can complain about not getting them. You can't complain about not having them when you aren't suppose to.

Sure, I'll gladly wait for the patches, when did Japan get the rebalancing patches then?

Sigh... I can't even believe I'm bothering with this.....

1. Deina (Loli Unit, we got Deine a lot earlier then we should have to make up for it.)
2. Mischa (Loli Unit)
3. Kagerou
4. Yurina
5. Dorothy (Loli Unit)
6. Chloe (Loli Unit)
7. Claire (Loli Unit)
8. Bella (Loli Unit)
9. Moldevort (Collab Unit with a game that no longer exist. However, they just recently... like a few days recently decided to hand her out again)
10. Iris (Loli Unit, we got Liana as a replacement early to make up for the lack of her)
11.Nenya (Loli Unit)
12. Noel (Loli Unit)
13. Kagura (Shares an event with Noel)
14. Aisha (Not exactly sure she was introduced already for JP, but loli unit regardless)

Now all of the loli units did not come. Not because the devs decided 'hey lets not give EN lolis', but because Nutaku's Payment Processors said 'No they cannot be in your games, or we will stop processing your payments'. I don't know about you, but I can't run a business without money. Neither can Nutaku. So guess what no second hand treatment. So taking out all the missing loli units that we could have no gotten or we would lose the game entirely in the past. We are left with Moldevort a collaboration with a game that does not exist anymore. So you can't complain there, Yurina which is really the only unit you can complain about, and Kagerou who the payment processors could have views as too young. Hell we even got replacements for some of them. Gonna say second hand treatment there? They didn't have to give us any replacements.

So in short we're missing a handful of units because Nutaku can't get their act together and we've been long overdue for an update on it. You say a business can't run without money, well if Nutaku knew they were getting into the erotic game business, why the hell would they deal with a payment processor who has a problem with erotic game content? Sounds awfully shortsighted to me. Sounds less like second hand treatment and pure laziness from Nutaku to me, I'll give you that one. Either way, a long overdue problem with English Aigis that shows no signs of stopping.

Mentioned far earlier. The events we get are balanced around us, and are not at their original difficulty.

Really? Got a source for that? Unless you're going to tell me that events damage and hp get fine tuned the mobs coming in these events have been the same as what gets posted in the videos from Japanese players doing them.



I've never said we missed a single event... We have missed one event we should have gotten. Yurina's. In its entirety we have 'missed'...

Cloris' Event which is the Event tutorial now.

Warriors of the East which was an event introducing the trading post that we unlike JP had since launch. All it dropped were Demon Crystals. We got more DC out of having the TP since launch than that one event could provide. It more then balances out.

Yurina's event. The only one we legitimately should have had. Since we couldn't have loli units or Nutaku would have had to shut down. They have seemed to find way around that in recent times however.

Chloe's event. Not done because Chloe is a loli unit.

Noel and Kagura's event. Not done because Noel is a loli unit.

Back to the argument about Nutaku being long overdue for an update on this one. I believe enough has been said about it. But glad to see you agree with me there are plenty of events and units English aigis is missing out on and it will only get worse until Nutaku gets this "issue" sorted out.

Then go play over on DMM. Absolutely no one is stopping you, and you would not be the first. DMM is ahead because they game has been out longer there. Nutaku will always been behind as we can't ever catch up, and if we ever did. We would miss out on a years worth of stuff.

I'll pass on that one. I don't make a habit of playing Japanese games for the sake of playing Japanese games, especially ones I don't understand.

At the end of the day I'm a consumer of the English MWA and have concerns for it. You don't need to take it so personally and attack me for it by telling me I don't know what I'm talking about and for me to shut up, that all was uncalled for.
 
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With the IoS and the cover-up approach used there for amongst others Lolis, maybe one could hope a comparable approach for the Nutaku version for 'lolis'?

It would solve an awful lot of issues in terms of running : different version, balancing, missing units, double development, more bugs, higher costs and all the while also make content available on more platforms at little to no extra cost (as content would match for 90% of the version and the last 10% would be common with IoS approach) and of course that ENG supporters would see more content to, well, support :)

A few words from developer about what they see for 2016 Nutaku version would sure clear things and give a good start for 2016.

That said *cough* :) Erm first post, pleased to be here. Started Aigis in November, been lurking a bit since then.

Question, I have a very decent levelled Elaine (silver valk) but we seem to be getting a shot at a gold valk in this event, I know the gold is stronger in pure numerical terms, but what about in practical, is there anything a 50CC50 Elaine cannot reasonably take on that the other can?

The reasoning being that if a they need 2 hits to kill something or 2 hits to be killed by something, it does not matter terribly much if one has better stats than the other.

(Am eyeing the Plat valk in the gatcha of course, but hm, luck)
 
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Well with GR1 dropped I wonder how they'll release the other two Gold Rushes, I'm guessing they'll save GR3 for whenever Awakening drops or even introduce Awakening with GR3 so that's whenever, for GR2 I'm not sure though from the sounds of it it seems like it was presented as a special event for when they broke 200k users? So I guess maybe another special occasion since our GR1 is being presented as a special event for the New Year, maybe on the anniversary of Belinda's event, nah idk.

For the sake of every Nutaku player's sanity Awakening better come before GR3, these events become more and more unfriendly for non-AW'd teams at the upper levels. As for soldiers, ignoring the black...

Combat: Zenobia. Not even close. Has an AoE proc and her AW skill ramps for 20 the first time then turns into Holy Awakening(same skill as Maribel, but on a unit with good stats for her cost), which easily lets her fight off large enemies. She is better combat-wise than the black soldier in this state but won't generate UP after the first use. If you intend to do the reinforce>immediate withdraw tactic, Zenobia is actually better at it then Jerome. Probably the best plat soldier in general if you don't need something hyper-specific.

General Ramp: Jerome has the bulk to survive early rushes and has a nifty permanent increase to starting UP that basically cost reduces him by 2. A reminder: Platinum units can use their ramp skill sooner than gold units can.

Cheapness: Aria comes with high ATK that lets her clean up enemies before they overwhelm her and a generic boost to everyone's ATK as a passive. Way better than Julian, usually better than Katie*.

I should mention that a good middle-ground soldier is the unit drop event soldier Liselotte. She has a defensive boost for the units that need it(soldiers, HA) and has solid stats. She's also a good soldier to AW skill if you have dedicated ramping soldiers already, since she gets a good ATK/DEF boost with it. Also, you don't need to gacha her.

As a side note, non-CC soldiers are a largely irrelevant strategy in the DMM meta. Modern events tend to demand good use of your team space and soldiers that don't die to a stiff breeze.

*: Katie's niche as a high defense soldier makes her better in some scenarios than other gold soldiers. Desert missions, when they arrive, are a good example.
 
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haha 26 stamina and still no silver... welp I can forget about farming plant/gold armor...
 
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haha 26 stamina and still no silver... welp I can forget about farming plant/gold armor...

lol

And I think I saw some people complaining they have yet to see Gold Fairies drop:rolleyes:
But saying got many Silver instead

Truly this RNG-sama is very cruel
 
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With the IoS and the cover-up approach used there for amongst others Lolis, maybe one could hope a comparable approach for the Nutaku version for 'lolis'?

It would solve an awful lot of issues in terms of running : different version, balancing, missing units, double development, more bugs, higher costs and all the while also make content available on more platforms at little to no extra cost (as content would match for 90% of the version and the last 10% would be common with IoS approach) and of course that ENG supporters would see more content to, well, support :)

A few words from developer about what they see for 2016 Nutaku version would sure clear things and give a good start for 2016.

That said *cough* :) Erm first post, pleased to be here. Started Aigis in November, been lurking a bit since then.

Question, I have a very decent levelled Elaine (silver valk) but we seem to be getting a shot at a gold valk in this event, I know the gold is stronger in pure numerical terms, but what about in practical, is there anything a 50CC50 Elaine cannot reasonably take on that the other can?

The reasoning being that if a they need 2 hits to kill something or 2 hits to be killed by something, it does not matter terribly much if one has better stats than the other.

(Am eyeing the Plat valk in the gatcha of course, but hm, luck)

You'd have to look at a lot of enemy stats to determine if Kerry is more useful or irrelevant compared to Elaine. Overall though, yes Kerry is massively better if not solely for the fact that she gets AW. And before anyone bashes me, yes I know Kerry is "bad." But she is good enough.

As for the recent iOS censorship, that is because they aren't doing H-scenes. The entire problem is that the payment processors look at the H-scenes as far as I know. Just adding clothing to the base art won't do much to change their minds.

We haven't had lolis since day one. Whether you want to be cynical and call out Nutaku for being lazy, unprofessional, or straight up liars or not is largely irrelevant. It is very simple, we just aren't getting lolis. We've complained about this far too much over the year to get riled up over the same topic every other month.

And to those of you talking about loli content being allowed in the other games, well we do have loli content in Aigis regardless. Phyllis, Sybilla, Shiho, and Solano off the top of my head probably fit most people's subjective opinion on loliness yet they got in. Who knows the inner workings of the business world? Nothing anyone can do, complaining is bad for your health.

Edit: And as far as balance patches, AW, and Yurina goes, Nutaku and we don't have any control. JP will give it to us when they want. All we can do is accept that. But if we got through Solano, I know we'll be set for a little while longer.
 
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6 runs for me to get the Julian. Now the question is do I want to burn the silver soldiers to CC him and cost reduce and skill up my current Julian or just skill up Katie. Decisions, decisions.
 
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We haven't had lolis since day one. Whether you want to be cynical and call out Nutaku for being lazy, unprofessional, or straight up liars or not is largely irrelevant. It is very simple, we just aren't getting lolis. We've complained about this far too much over the year to get riled up over the same topic every other month.

And to those of you talking about loli content being allowed in the other games, well we do have loli content in Aigis regardless. Phyllis, Sybilla, Shiho, and Solano off the top of my head probably fit most people's subjective opinion on loliness yet they got in. Who knows the inner workings of the business world? Nothing anyone can do, complaining is bad for your health.

Edit: And as far as balance patches, AW, and Yurina goes, Nutaku and we don't have any control. JP will give it to us when they want. All we can do is accept that. But if we got through Solano, I know we'll be set for a little while longer.

That's true, we haven't had lolis since day one, and it's been a problem, since day one. One that has continued to be shoved to the side and ignored. If I take your discussion point and run with it the question becomes, why is some loli content okay and others not? Now we have a fine line we're skirting with content we may or may not get from Japan and units that may be excluded entirely. Not a good place to be in, in my book.

Honest question since I keep seeing this brought up, Nutaku seriously has no control or pushing power over the content Aigis pumps out? This is the first time I'm seeing a publisher having no control over the developers and truly surprises me.
 
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6 runs for me to get the Julian. Now the question is do I want to burn the silver soldiers to CC him and cost reduce and skill up my current Julian or just skill up Katie. Decisions, decisions.

Do not skill up Katie with Julian. Aria and Jerome are ok choices to skill up, if not then keeping him if you haven't got him already or CR/SU himself are better choices.
 
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I should probably add that I was hoping for the clothe up + no scene for the loli when I mentioned the IoS approach.

In fact, I would prefer that loli did not have scenes. (personal preference)

But I would like the units, ex Fenrir Shaman Puniru is just plain out cute and fun.

A cat girl riding a big cat into battle while looking like she has the time of her life, whats not to like :D

(cant do link, need 15 posts for it, but is in the DMM version of Aigis on this board, petite's post, page 996)

Anyways, I'll let that topic rest, it seems to get plenty of excersise as is :eek:

Edit : Thanks for the Valk info. I dont mind Kerry being deemed "bad" by some. Am not into min-max much, if a unit does its job, I will always be happy to field it, good enough works for me. And should a better come along, then so be it, part of the game as ones army evolves. Does not make the old unit "bad", imho, it is simply a fighter of earlier days that is pensioned off as time and luck changes. Besides, should the game continue long enough, even those deemed powerful today, will have to walk that path eventually as new units and rarities superseed them.
 
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2 runs got Julian. I wonder why they have to make this event run more than 2 weeks.
 
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2 runs got Julian. I wonder why they have to make this event run more than 2 weeks.

They will add another map once a day
So tomorow we will get another Gold Unit
Totals of 11 Gold Unit

Do You want to do all that 11 map in a day?

You Sir are SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Do not skill up Katie with Julian. Aria and Jerome are ok choices to skill up, if not then keeping him if you haven't got him already or CR/SU himself are better choices.

I actually have a maxed Katie and Julian as my go to soldiers. They're both -0 CR and 1/5 skill. Julian has slightly higher hp and attack but takes so much more damage in exchange. That's kind of why I was leaning towards Katie, but getting a CR on Julian would be a bigger upgrade to the team overall.
 
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That's true, we haven't had lolis since day one, and it's been a problem, since day one. One that has continued to be shoved to the side and ignored. If I take your discussion point and run with it the question becomes, why is some loli content okay and others not? Now we have a fine line we're skirting with content we may or may not get from Japan and units that may be excluded entirely. Not a good place to be in, in my book.

Honest question since I keep seeing this brought up, Nutaku seriously has no control or pushing power over the content Aigis pumps out? This is the first time I'm seeing a publisher having no control over the developers and truly surprises me.

If the story that payment processors are controlling the lolis is to be believed, which I think it is and I do believe it, than their criterion for removing units is unknown and will never be revealed. They have their own reasons for allowing certain units. It's all one big piece of subjective-ness from one group of people that no one has any relation or say-so on. Yes it is sad and bad, yes I want lolis, but there really is nothing that can be done.

It is based on the devs. Nutaku have stated multiple times that the Aigis devs are not lenient and basically have total control over what comes over and when. Other devs are obviously more lenient, Osawari guys even allowing Nutaku to change some art.

Our version is an H-version, and adult version. If the devs don't want to remove the scenes of lolis so they can pass, they are entitled to that. And who knows, maybe the payment guys won't allows units like Dina even if they had removed scenes just on principle. Dina's scenes are... something.
 
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I actually have a maxed Katie and Julian as my go to soldiers. They're both -0 CR and 1/5 skill. Julian has slightly higher hp and attack but takes so much more damage in exchange. That's kind of why I was leaning towards Katie, but getting a CR on Julian would be a bigger upgrade to the team overall.

Are Julian also 100% trust?
 
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They will add another map once a day
So tomorow we will get another Gold Unit
Totals of 11 Gold Unit

Do You want to do all that 11 map in a day?

You Sir are SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No I don't mind it doing the maps once a day. I just noticed the date in there banner. If we will get 11 more maps, then we dont need to extend until the 12th of January for this.
 
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