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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


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WHUT??!

To think I get this on Clone account
This is just become moar and moar suck:(
Sofie is very good black to have, indeed.

I still believe that they will eventually update Trade Post and thus add Erun (gold angel) for fremium players, but hope is growing thinner with every update. Artillery class is implemented now, I don't understand what's holding them anymore.
 
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Not really revival difficulty.

I'm going to go ahead and stop reading here. They've been giving us revival-stat units since the launch of Nutaku. There's no room for debate here. Our events are harder than the ones DMM had (except maybe Dorania's/Anya's) because we always get the revival version.

That's not arguable as opinion. It's verifiable fact.
 
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I'm going to go ahead and stop reading here. They've been giving us revival-stat units since the launch of Nutaku. There's no room for debate here. Our events are harder than the ones DMM had (except maybe Dorania's/Anya's) because we always get the revival version.

That's not arguable as opinion. It's verifiable fact.

That Revival difficulty is fine really
But they should give us our missing unit then

Atleast the other Silver Valk not only cheaper UP
But have a strong attack
The other Silver Witch are a little bit faster

The other Gold Archer are strong with her Increase Attack
ETC ETC
 
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Ech messed up with blind run on X map and... didnt care much run on G map. Now I have to do them again for 3 stars... Somehow just dont want to do it... but that free SC...
 
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Mischa and Elaine are the same cost. In January, the DMM version rebalanced all of the Valkyrie by lowering their cost but also lowering their stats.

Elaine's stats on DMM at max level and affection are :

HP: 1571
Atk: 372
Def: 294
 
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Okay I can just farm and CC Samurais here... then focus on Rogues for the next three events... everything will be fine so what if I need literally 21 Rogues... three events... with the likelihood of a double rogue map for the next one...

*starts to CC a samurai and see it takes a silver rogue to CC*

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME TEA TEAM!

FUCK IT ALL....

*storms away from the computer screen showing 5 more rogues are now needed*
 
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Okay I can just farm and CC Samurais here... then focus on Rogues for the next three events... everything will be fine so what if I need literally 21 Rogues... three events... with the likelihood of a double rogue map for the next one...

*starts to CC a samurai and see it takes a silver rogue to CC*

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME TEA TEAM!

FUCK IT ALL....

*storms away from the computer screen showing 5 more rogues are now needed*

Know your pain. Not even gonna count how many rogues is needed for everything...

Edit: wait... samurais too need rogues? And I thought that at least I could AW Uzume...
 
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Know your pain. Not even gonna count how many rogues is needed for everything...

Edit: wait... samurais too need rogues? And I thought that at least I could AW Uzume...

Currently in need of Rogues:

- To CC: Rogues, Pirates, Samurai, Ninjas, Monks, Puppeteers
- To Awaken: Soldiers, Valkyries, Rogues, Samurai, Ninjas, Monks, Advance Guards

I'm not sure if I'm missing anything though.
 
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Weren't you the one insisting that Yurina would come eventually? :p

I thought I would advocate for them. Just hoping. I turned out wrong, but I'm no more disappointed than I've been by their other decisions. Just how it goes.

You also forgot Mischa who as far as I can tell, has been a staple in a lot of silver 3 star videos. There are probably more that are important, Liana vs Black Iris is a good example. People keep bringing up these units because 1. we have absolutely no reason to not have them, and 2. they want them. This is a character collection game/TD game after all. It's not unreasonable to find a bunch of missing characters displeasing.

Speaking of another missing unit, we've also got Kagerou who has been MIA for quite a few events now as well. This continues to leave us without a silver ninja to start collecting and CCing for awakening. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the devs throw her in some random event AND add her to the awakening pool for the classes that should have had it already.

Kagerou and Mischa mean nothing to me. They are silvers who have no purpose beyond being low cost alternatives in very situational circumstances. While I want them to satisfy the collector in me, I don't think losing silvers is a big deal unless they impact CC and AW.

Black Iris doesn't mean anything because she is black. I know I'll get called out on this, but having an extremely OP unit, even for a black, at that rarity get cut should really not mean much.

Bullshit.
Noel is very important source of gold, much more important than Get Gold units.
Kagura is one of precious freemium units who buffs attack of all melee units (for +5%, 2.5 times more than Aria), excluded from game for no reason at all.
Chloe is very important for many strategies. I have AW80 Yurina on DMM, and almost every time I used Chloe or AWed HA instead. Good angel is absolute must for every team, and we were denied both freemium angels.

Gold doesn't mean much at this point. You advocate for Kagura based on a passive. Dan/Daniel/Niel/Nieru and Erun, the silver and gold Angels, are still in the future. While Chloe is good, I don't think she is as necessary as you make her out to be. I did fine on DMM without an Angel. I used someone's account who had 10/10 Sophie on DMM and had struggles using her optimally.

I'm going to go ahead and stop reading here. They've been giving us revival-stat units since the launch of Nutaku. There's no room for debate here. Our events are harder than the ones DMM had (except maybe Dorania's/Anya's) because we always get the revival version.

That's not arguable as opinion. It's verifiable fact.

Okay, I do remember the dragon mages during the dragon events were fixed from dealing physical damage to magical damage. But that is really a fix.

Otherwise, I have no idea about stats. I've managed fine with every event. I noticed no difficulty spikes. Can you give me data? I didn't know DMM powered up enemies for revivals. I played plenty of DMM and I'm a Nutaku veteran, but apparently I'm out of the loop on this.
 
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@Nattorei

Have you played the DMM version to try Mischa?I can understand Nenya,cause she really isn't good enough to stall lvling anyone else imo,but Mischa is so frickin useful she holds up well on any event I do on DMM.Kagerou is not that important as Mischa either.

Btw I have Emelia,Kerry,and Thetis on my DMM account,and I have not even bothered to lvl them cause Mischa is already too good.
 
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Black Iris doesn't mean anything because she is black. I know I'll get called out on this, but having an extremely OP unit, even for a black, at that rarity get cut should really not mean much.

On top of that, we didn't get Saria either, and the black healer we do have is +5 cost for most people that get her. Chydis is slowly approaching event unit status, with the trading post never changing.

The best healers on nutaku are just average healers.
 
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next 2 events have rouges
 
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@Nattorei

Have you played the DMM version to try Mischa?I can understand Nenya,cause she really isn't good enough to stall lvling anyone else imo,but Mischa is so frickin useful she holds up well on any event I do on DMM.Kagerou is not that important as Mischa either.

Btw I have Imelia,Kerry,and Thetis on my DMM account,and I have not even bothered to lvl them cause Mischa is already too good.

Don't forget -1 Mischa is easier too
I might want to try Max CR her , although I can't ATM

IIRC , only Mischa can 1 HKO the Goblin
While even Gold cannot
Damn good Silver...

On top of that, we didn't get Saria either, and the black healer we do have is +5 cost for most people that get her. Chydis is slowly approaching event unit status, with the trading post never changing.

The best healers on nutaku are just average healers.

Yeah , they should atleast make Liana 22 UP instead if they want to rid the B.Iris
Saria is like any other XXXX we have to wait if they really get the greenlit

Chydiss should be easy to get
But they cut her out from TP and did not even care to change it
Despite they have to put it in Spirit of Awakening

Gee.....
 
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Kagerou and Mischa mean nothing to me. They are silvers who have no purpose beyond being low cost alternatives in very situational circumstances. While I want them to satisfy the collector in me, I don't think losing silvers is a big deal unless they impact CC and AW.
I'll give you Kagerou since Ninjas are a niche class, but Mischa? You have no idea what you're talking about. She has Platinum-tier Attack power with the easily CR-ed cost of a Silver, there's a ton of strategies that involve her and she's nearly irreplaceable for a non-Premium player. Carrie can't do her job until AW1 and Emilia at AW90 still doesn't have the same Attack as Mischa without her Skill active.

Black Iris doesn't mean anything because she is black. I know I'll get called out on this, but having an extremely OP unit, even for a black, at that rarity get cut should really not mean much.
You don't care about a Premium Black that the people who pay to keep this game running want, I'm surprised you can actually say that, maybe I shouldn't be, considering how you stated that the two Silvers you talked about mean nothing to you.

Just because it's not about you doesn't mean it's dismissible.

Gold doesn't mean much at this point. You advocate for Kagura based on a passive. Dan/Daniel/Niel/Nieru and Erun, the silver and gold Angels, are still in the future. While Chloe is good, I don't think she is as necessary as you make her out to be. I did fine on DMM without an Angel. I used someone's account who had 10/10 Sophie on DMM and had struggles using her optimally.
Gold is and always will be an important resource, just because you don't think it's useful/don't know how to use it doesn't mean it has no use. We've gotten plenty of units that are practically useless, that really doesn't mean anything in Kagura's case.

Angels are niche but offer very important tactical advantages, being high MR and good Def units that don't get targeted by melee attackers allows them to act as decoys to high-power ranged units while minimizing the healing necessary. They also allow you to take out specific units that get within their range without worrying about them getting flooded and not catching the important targets.
 
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@Nattorei

Have you played the DMM version to try Mischa?I can understand Nenya,cause she really isn't good enough to stall lvling anyone else imo,but Mischa is so frickin useful she holds up well on any event I do on DMM.Kagerou is not that important as Mischa either.

Btw I have Emelia,Kerry,and Thetis on my DMM account,and I have not even bothered to lvl them cause Mischa is already too good.

I have played the DMM version. Nenya was my only Witch for the six months that I played. I never used any Valkyrie. Emilia, Mischa, and Elaine were the only ones I had and never got to them. Although I do remember being angry that the events were giving me so many Mischa copies.

I'll give you Kagerou since Ninjas are a niche class, but Mischa? You have no idea what you're talking about. She has Platinum-tier Attack power with the easily CR-ed cost of a Silver, there's a ton of strategies that involve her and she's nearly irreplaceable for a non-Premium player. Carrie can't do her job until AW1 and Emilia at AW90 still doesn't have the same Attack as Mischa without her Skill active.

I never used Mischa or any Valk on DMM and I managed well enough. My "duelists" were sometimes Conrad, sometimes Dorothy, and sometimes nothing. And comparing Mischa with other Valks, I find the other Valks more appealing. There are a ton of strategies with her? There are also a ton without.

You don't care about a Premium Black that the people who pay to keep this game running want, I'm surprised you can actually say that, maybe I shouldn't be, considering how you stated that the two Silvers you talked about mean nothing to you.

Just because it's not about you doesn't mean it's dismissible.

I think they don't matter in the sense that their power is important. When are we ever going to cry that the devs have buffed Nutaku to the point where we need black Iris or we all lose? Almost the same with the silvers.

Gold is and always will be an important resource, just because you don't think it's useful/don't know how to use it doesn't mean it has no use. We've gotten plenty of units that are practically useless, that really doesn't mean anything in Kagura's case.

Angels are niche but offer very important tactical advantages, being high MR and good Def units that don't get targeted by melee attackers allows them to act as decoys to high-power ranged units while minimizing the healing necessary. They also allow you to take out specific units that get within their range without worrying about them getting flooded and not catching the important targets.

Gold is important, but veterans have plenty and new players have other things to focus on. Also on DMM, I never had any unit help me with gold, but I managed fairly well.

I advocate for the usefulness of every unit. I want players to actually try to farm Momiji. I'm the one who was happy just to get Daisy as my starter on DMM. I know Angels are good. I do wish I could get Chloe. But I don't think she is as make-or-break as others make her out to be. I mentioned Sophie because, again, I played an account that had a 10/10 Sophie for December through February on DMM and frequently had her downtime be a problem. She wrecked things, but she simply couldn't outright block as much as I needed her too.
 
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You missed my point regarding Kagerou. Ninjas are eventually going to be required for certain units to be awakened, right? We should be able to collect these silvers now but we can't because for some unexaplainable reason they haven't been implemented yet. My point is, once they do implement using ninjas as awakening materials, we will have to farm them in the future as they've been ripped out of all the events they should have been a part of in the first place. Not a huge deal but it will likely hinder your ability to awaken units that require ninjas when that change is made.
 
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You missed my point regarding Kagerou. Ninjas are eventually going to be required for certain units to be awakened, right? We should be able to collect these silvers now but we can't because for some unexaplainable reason they haven't been implemented yet. My point is, once they do implement using ninjas as awakening materials, we will have to farm them in the future as they've been ripped out of all the events they should have been a part of in the first place. Not a huge deal but it will likely hinder your ability to awaken units that require ninjas when that change is made.

I do understand this, but I am confident that this issue can/will resolve itself in the future. Either Kagerou's released soon, they replace her with Saizou, or they delay the change to the materials. The worst case scenario isn't even that bad in my opinion.
 
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You missed my point regarding Kagerou. Ninjas are eventually going to be required for certain units to be awakened, right?

Uh , as much as I want Kagerou like everyone else
And as much as I want to answer , YES

Don't forget that currently it change to need Rogue instead

Don't wanna jinx it actually
And hope I am WRONG
But.... they can do it
The dev have powers......

Just want to remind You there is a worst case scenario~
 
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Well today i decided to go nuts and spend 40 SC on PS just to what would happen, i'm a freemium but i got tired of hoarding SC, the new unit is a Cannoneer so i said to myself "Why not?"
This is what i got:


I'm not mad since i've always wanted Monica, But i really don't now what to do about Mehlis, Gina and Garania since i already have Odette max lvl and Lynn also at max. Any advice? I already got 1 CR for my Fedora should i try go for another?
 

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So, uhh... Anyone else happen to get this from the gacha?
 

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