(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Orion]

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Finally 3 stared the last mission, with special thanks to Eth Eternal for their v2 strat, I knew keeping those bronze mages was a good idea. Here it is if anyone is interested.

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Team I did it with. At least 1 CC'd Healer and 1 CC'd Witch was needed (though I got lucky with getting Lilia), I pretty much did the same thing Eth did in the video, but when the dragon mages showed up I dropped Lilia and when the second mage branched off I dropped Kerry instead of Eunice, but I kept him in the team just in case.

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Was pretty surprised how easy it went and a little bit disappointed in myself for not figuring something like this out, I almost did figure it out when I saw how fast Cloris was killing off a DM, but I never would have thought to use bronze mages at the beginning. I was mainly focusing on how to use 2 non CC'd healers and failing miserably at it.

Edit: decided to roll the dice since I had 10 crystals again....I think I pleased the RNG Gods somehow or I'll be receiving a lot of Silvers from Premium Summons from now on, probably the latter.

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That Unit Count though.

 

[Haunter7]

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@MercSpy

I would definitely go for a second witch, Belinda I guess if u have her CR-d, then probably a second mage (Cyrus), having 2 is a must for some maps, even 3 isn't too much. You have no princess just like me so I'd recommend CCing one bandit later, then maybe one of the Valkyries to replace Kerry (Dahlia is a valk too, right?).

 

[xaxs]

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Still can't 3 star last event map. Probably i'm one of the last? Should be able to do it with my current team I think. Well seems like i just suck Gonna get 2n CC'ed healer, should be easier then.

 

[Gromelon]

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@MercSpy

I would definitely go for a second witch, Belinda I guess if u have her CR-d, then probably a second mage (Cyrus), having 2 is a must for some maps, even 3 isn't too much. You have no princess just like me so I'd recommend CCing one bandit later, then maybe one of the Valkyries to replace Kerry (Dahlia is a valk too, right?).

I didn't see a single map yet that would require 2 CC mages. Maybe Immortal Beast, and even then I am sure it's not completely necessary. CC Whitebeard + non-CC Valerie did the job on everything but that one map for me. I also have max CR lvl40 Roy, he does wonders when fast deploy AoE is needed.

Going with second witch is never wrong, thou. They start to really shine after CC, and having 2 opens quite a lot of shortcuts on many maps.

 

[Altrius]

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Still can't 3 star last event map. Probably i'm one of the last? Should be able to do it with my current team I think. Well seems like i just suck Gonna get 2n CC'ed healer, should be easier then.

show me ur team, while 2 CC healer is alot easier there another way like keep puting bandit and withdrawing them or putting healer at bottom to seperate the mage (also work with using bronze archer put and withdraw).

If you team able to get 24 star i seriusly recomend you focus on it 1st, there still time after all.
Reason is Draniia / anya is useful in some important map ( ex: monday awakening orb map in future..... / some event map that have stupid golem in it......etc etc )

@gromelon
If you want to know an important map that need to be farm and require 2 CC mage then it will be future thursday awakening orb map... but again that still way far in future by then i believe you already have plenty spare unit

 

[isabbah]

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On War of Magic, is it better to use strong but expensive witches or low cost ones you can get out fast? I only have one CCed witch right now (Belinda with 1cr) and Cloris and Despara at rather low levels.

 

[SybillaISsoCUTE]

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I didn't see a single map yet that would require 2 CC mages. Maybe Immortal Beast, and even then I am sure it's not completely necessary. CC Whitebeard + non-CC Valerie did the job on everything but that one map for me. I also have max CR lvl40 Roy, he does wonders when fast deploy AoE is needed.

Going with second witch is never wrong, thou. They start to really shine after CC, and having 2 opens quite a lot of shortcuts on many maps.

CC40+50% Barbastroff +lvl 41 Cyrus can't clear pre-liches wave fast enough. As far as i know at least.

 

[Lafate]

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Okay hold the phone. I just did math over on hongfire for what should be our first collection event... Anyone care to explain why the hell everyone recommends a completely free player save all their Crystal for these events when there are only like 6 of them?

Vampire Bride findings

Spoiler

As stated before doing this off a level 120 player. So that leaves us with a start point of 350 Stamina, 7067 Charisma, and 0 Vampire Serum.

350 Stamina
7067 Charisma
0 Vampire Serum
0 Sacred Crystals spent.

Now first lets go for the minimum goal of 700. Now going through the first set of maps to get to the final and best farming map of the Serum. This will take as mentioned before 19 Stamina and 275 Charisma. However instead of 29 Vampire Serum on a 100% drop rate you get 24 on average. This is assuming that all sources are correct, and I was being generous and giving the Serum when the drop rate was around 50% and there was only one drop.

331 Stamina
6792 Charisma
24 Vampire Serum (674 to go)
0 Sacred Crystals spent.

Now finally on the last map it has an average of 13 Serum per run. This is due to a 100% drop rate of Serum x10. While the map has two drops of Serum x3 that seem to be around 50%(Wiki claims to be 51.5%). Every video I watch confirmed this as all of them were 13 Serum dropped. As mentioned previously with the current amount of stamina left in those two weeks you can run this map 55 times. At the cost of 330 Stamina and 3300 Charisma. This yields on average 715 Vampire serum.

1 Stamina
3492 Charisma left.
741 Vampire Serum (41 over recommend minimum)
0 Sacred Crystals spent

Well... That ended much better then expected... However lets finish this up and see how many Sacred Crystals must be spent to achieve a perfect Karma. This will take a total of 1200 Vampire Serum. This leave 459 Vampire Serum left to be obtained. This like take 36 additional runs at the average of 13 Vampire Serum per clear. This means it will take 216 Stamina and 2160 Charisma. So we end up never spending any Sacred Crystals on Charisma. However to obtain the additional 215 Stamina needed we must spend some Sacred Crystals after all. At the rare of 14 Stamina per Sacred Crystal due to level of the player you end up spending 14 Sacred Crystals resulting in 224 Stamina obtained. The final results after all this becomes.

10 Stamina left over
1332 Charisma left over
1209 Vampire Serum on average
14 Sacred Crystals spent.

Note that only 6 Sacred Crystals are needed going into this event. This is because there are 8 maps and assuming you 3 star all of them you'll gain the rest of the Sacred Crystals needed to get a perfect Karma on average. Well 6 USD is a hell of a lot more reasonable then 38 USD..... anyway.... Looks like quite a bit of people will be happy.

It seems telling people to save their SC instead of taking a chance to get something from Premium Summon is completely stupid. As the only type of event that spending SC that would be more beneficial then rolling Premium Summons are the collection ones, but by these results it shows they only take as many SC as one Premium Summon would to get a perfect unit.

Vampire Bride collection goals

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250: Karma becomes a friend
270: Karma initial level 5 of
300: Karma of sortie cost -1
320: Karma of skill level +1
340: Karma initial level 10
370: Karma of sortie cost -1
400: Karma initial level 15
450: Karma of the initial level 20
500: Karma of skill level +1
600: Karma of sortie cost -1
700: Karma changes to Immortal Princess
800: Karma of skill level +1
900: Karma of sortie cost -1
1000: Karma of skill level +1
1200: Karma of sortie cost -1

 

[Gromelon]

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CC40+50% Barbastroff +lvl 41 Cyrus can't clear pre-liches wave fast enough. As far as i know at least.

Probably not. That's why I mentioned it, so people don't make this nightmarish map as example.
Maybe some combination with strong witches or archers will do it. Don't know, don't care. I can probably count players who can 3* this map on my fingers and still have one left to pick my nose - they are months ahead of anything Aigis can dish out anyway, so I don't count completing it as relevant.

 

[SybillaISsoCUTE]

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Probably not. That's why I mentioned it, so people don't make this nightmarish map as example.
Maybe some combination with strong witches or archers will do it. Don't know, don't care. I can probably count players who can 3* this map on my fingers and still have one left to pick my nose - they are months ahead of anything Aigis can dish out anyway, so I don't count completing it as relevant.

Don't think there so few. I think after i CC Chydis, Iris and Cyrus - i have a decent chance of clearing it. My closest attempt was with only liches surviving (sad screen - empty map 3 hearts in the corner and 3 liches stroll through the empty map)

 

[yeehaws]

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You will also need SC for gold rushes unless you are like SybillaISsoCUTE and silvers just drop for free.

@SybillaISsoCUTE, did you and your friend do all your premium rolls at one shot? I am envy.

 

[redscizor]

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Hi, I cant beat inmortal beasts, it is my team, my CC are 100% affection
Any suggestion?
Usually I am ok before last wave, but Dhalia cant vs Bahamuts and die with lich
I loose with 3 lich at 40%

 

[clavat_k]

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Okay hold the phone. I just did math over on hongfire for what should be our first collection event... Anyone care to explain why the hell everyone recommends a completely free player save all their Crystal for these events when there are only like 6 of them?

Vampire Bride findings

Spoiler

As stated before doing this off a level 120 player. So that leaves us with a start point of 350 Stamina, 7067 Charisma, and 0 Vampire Serum.

350 Stamina
7067 Charisma
0 Vampire Serum
0 Sacred Crystals spent.

Now first lets go for the minimum goal of 700. Now going through the first set of maps to get to the final and best farming map of the Serum. This will take as mentioned before 19 Stamina and 275 Charisma. However instead of 29 Vampire Serum on a 100% drop rate you get 24 on average. This is assuming that all sources are correct, and I was being generous and giving the Serum when the drop rate was around 50% and there was only one drop.

331 Stamina
6792 Charisma
24 Vampire Serum (674 to go)
0 Sacred Crystals spent.

Now finally on the last map it has an average of 13 Serum per run. This is due to a 100% drop rate of Serum x10. While the map has two drops of Serum x3 that seem to be around 50%(Wiki claims to be 51.5%). Every video I watch confirmed this as all of them were 13 Serum dropped. As mentioned previously with the current amount of stamina left in those two weeks you can run this map 55 times. At the cost of 330 Stamina and 3300 Charisma. This yields on average 715 Vampire serum.

1 Stamina
3492 Charisma left.
741 Vampire Serum (41 over recommend minimum)
0 Sacred Crystals spent

Well... That ended much better then expected... However lets finish this up and see how many Sacred Crystals must be spent to achieve a perfect Karma. This will take a total of 1200 Vampire Serum. This leave 459 Vampire Serum left to be obtained. This like take 36 additional runs at the average of 13 Vampire Serum per clear. This means it will take 216 Stamina and 2160 Charisma. So we end up never spending any Sacred Crystals on Charisma. However to obtain the additional 215 Stamina needed we must spend some Sacred Crystals after all. At the rare of 14 Stamina per Sacred Crystal due to level of the player you end up spending 14 Sacred Crystals resulting in 224 Stamina obtained. The final results after all this becomes.

10 Stamina left over
1332 Charisma left over
1209 Vampire Serum on average
14 Sacred Crystals spent.

Note that only 6 Sacred Crystals are needed going into this event. This is because there are 8 maps and assuming you 3 star all of them you'll gain the rest of the Sacred Crystals needed to get a perfect Karma on average. Well 6 USD is a hell of a lot more reasonable then 38 USD..... anyway.... Looks like quite a bit of people will be happy.

It seems telling people to save their SC instead of taking a chance to get something from Premium Summon is completely stupid. As the only type of event that spending SC that would be more beneficial then rolling Premium Summons are the collection ones, but by these results it shows they only take as many SC as one Premium Summon would to get a perfect unit.

Vampire Bride collection goals

Spoiler

250: Karma becomes a friend
270: Karma initial level 5 of
300: Karma of sortie cost -1
320: Karma of skill level +1
340: Karma initial level 10
370: Karma of sortie cost -1
400: Karma initial level 15
450: Karma of the initial level 20
500: Karma of skill level +1
600: Karma of sortie cost -1
700: Karma changes to Immortal Princess
800: Karma of skill level +1
900: Karma of sortie cost -1
1000: Karma of skill level +1
1200: Karma of sortie cost -1

when people speak of saving crystals they also mean for the Farming events.
its foolish. i prefer a chance to get something good at the gate.

 

[Xovian]

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On War of Magic, is it better to use strong but expensive witches or low cost ones you can get out fast? I only have one CCed witch right now (Belinda with 1cr) and Cloris and Despara at rather low levels.

It's "requirements":
-3x Witches each needing a minimum of 334ATK
**(silver witches would need max level after CC and full affection to reach the required damage)
-You must be able to place all 3 with in 20-24 seconds.
**(26 max time count in seconds)

If you can't meet both requirements listed above, you will fail.

I can probably count players who can 3* this map on my fingers and still have one left to pick my nose - they are months ahead of anything Aigis can dish out anyway, so I don't count completing it as relevant.

Think there's more than a handful now. Fairly certain there are at least 6-8 of us on this forum alone that have 3*. Though I think I'm the only one who actively farms it for units at times.

@redscizor
You really do need to have 3 CC'ed healers for immortal beast. Least I couldn't 3* it with out them being CC'ed. For me I actually max leveled 2 of them (max level 60) before trying again as I had done so when they were all level 41 and had failed to keep my lighting rod alive due to the high damage. YMMV, but I do recommend at least shooting for 50 or higher level after being CC'ed for each of them. My lighting rods were only in their CC50's as well. If need be, and if possible, you may need to consider using a bandit for their high HP as your "tank".

 

[Lafate]

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when people speak of saving crystals they also mean for the Farming events.
its foolish. i prefer a chance to get something good at the gate.

If Bellinda is any indication of what is to come in regards to that.... It is.... bad to give such advice. You spend crystals and can potentially get nothing at all... and even when you do that something can be turned into nothing... The only time it would probably make a difference is when you don't need them.

 

[isabbah]

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War of Magic "requirements":
-3x Witches each needing a minimum of 334ATK
**(silver witches would need max level after CC and full affection to reach the required damage)
-You must be able to place all 3 with in 20-24 seconds.
**(26 max time count in seconds)

If you can't meet both requirements listed above, you will fail.

Thanks! Sounds almost impossible though
So I have 34 points to spend on three witches, about 11(!) on average for each one. How did you manage it?

 

[SybillaISsoCUTE]

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@SybillaISsoCUTE, did you and your friend do all your premium rolls at one shot? I am envy.

Nope, we doing rolls as soon as we got crystals 1 by 1

 

[Xovian]

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Thanks! Sounds almost impossible though
So I have 34 points to spend on three witches, about 11(!) on average for each one. How did you manage it?

+5 UC that is purchased in the shop. 5 Crystals. It is the only map for all of JP they actually recommend buying the UC up for. Mine has already faded and I can no longer complete the map again (not that I really want to).

 

[Haunter7]

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+5 UC that is purchased in the shop. 5 Crystals. It is the only map for all of JP they actually recommend buying the UC up for. Mine has already faded and I can no longer complete the map again (not that I really want to).

Damnit, I thought it was "only" 3 SC, not 5. I'd say it's not worth it, but well, I guess it depends on whether u'e a premium or freemium player - the former won't mind spending a few extra crystals to get access to black fairies so they can train all their op black units, the latter doesn't have black units thus having no need to rush with War of Magic. Though I'm not sure when and if a freemium player will be able to complete the map without having to buy the boost... Unless u're willing to rise 2 silver witches to 50CC50 + 100% aff.

 

[Lafate]

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+5 UC that is purchased in the shop. 5 Crystals. It is the only map for all of JP they actually recommend buying the UC up for. Mine has already faded and I can no longer complete the map again (not that I really want to).

Honestly it would be a lot easier if we had access to nenya, and actually got Cloris' event. That kind of screwed the pooch there...

I'll probably farm up -3 cost calliope x3 times just to deal with the damn thing; or at least two since my Bellinda and Cloris aren't really cost reduced.