(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[clavat_k]

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Nothing to be "proud of" to be sure. Least IMO.

we do what has to be done to ensure the peace of the kingdom.

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if that bring girls to our harems....well thats something else

This is Said girl i was talking about. i hope you understand why i like her Lafate

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[Lafate]

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ever played FF4?
they start as evil girls with black armors.
lets say you convince them to leave their wicked ways
(someone said one of these was an M)

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So... the Dark Fighter class? that is pretty much them in a nutshell.

This is Said girl i was talking about. i hope you understand why i like her Lafate

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Yes I can understand

 

[clavat_k]

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So... the Dark Fighter class? that is pretty much them in a nutshell.

Yes I can understand

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the other two.
yeah i want that black....

 

[Lafate]

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the other two.
yeah i want that black....

Well I know I'll be training at least two of them(, and Elva will be a perfect unit I think)... the third if I get lucky enough

Aigis: You won't.

Shut up already. Anyway... time to get the dungeon ready!

 

[Xovian]

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we do what has to be done to ensure the peace of the kingdom.

And some would call it a war crime.
It's easy to dismiss in a game as no one ever gets hurt, but realize that this also happens in RL, and there is nothing admirable about it in that case. Death could be considered a more "merciful" act in comparison, depending on whom you ask.

 

[Lafate]

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And some would call it a war crime.
It's easy to dismiss in a game as no one ever gets hurt, but realize that this also happens in RL, and there is nothing admirable about it in that case. Death could be considered a more "merciful" act in comparison, depending on whom you ask.

It also depends on the person doing it. Yes, I know it happens in real life. Some may call it a war crime. However, there is light and darkness to everything. For example if the captured person was treated as a prince/princess. It wouldn't be seen in a negative light really. However people always love to throw everything into the negative that is not the social or acceptable norm... another example of that is a true master and slave relationship that is a willing relationship on both ends. You never hear the news or any documentary talking about that. You always here about the psycho. Hell even a relationship that is more then 2 partners is seen in a negative light, and more times then not if that is a single male with multiple females. The male is seen as the bad guy that forced the women into the relationship.

 

[Orion]

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*Base* Neat.

*CC'd* Really neat.

*AW* Ne--wait, what? (Not that I have a problem with it)

 

[xaxs]

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This is Said girl i was talking about. i hope you understand why i like her Lafate

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Niiiiiceeeeee!

Come on now. Every good harem must have at least one girl with glasses. This is harems 101 here.

She's still in the sortie, was just pushed aside a bit. Just need to focus more attention on cuter ones

 

[Prototype909]

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And some would call it a war crime.
It's easy to dismiss in a game as no one ever gets hurt, but realize that this also happens in RL, and there is nothing admirable about it in that case. Death could be considered a more "merciful" act in comparison, depending on whom you ask.

I mean it's not like The Prince rapes them, he woos them with the gifts and they decide to become his. Any theories on how and why enemy units choose to join us is speculation at best unless otherwise explicitly outlined in story dialogue, there's 0 indication that they don't join by choice even in the case of units who debut as enemies in the storyline.

 

[Orion]

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I mean it's not like The Prince rapes them, he woos them with the gifts and they decide to become his. Any theories on how and why enemy units choose to join us is speculation at best unless otherwise explicitly outlined in story dialogue, there's 0 indication that they don't join by choice even in the case of units who debut as enemies in the storyline.

Yeah, so we're basically the non-jerky version of Rance. (though Rance isn't a Prince, but still.)

 

[SybillaISsoCUTE]

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Yeah, so we're basically the non-jerky version of Rance. (though Rance isn't a Prince, but still.)

Rance, if he wants it - King of any major nation on the continent. Also, he is the king in Kichikuou Rance. And he is ruller of Japan in some IF routes in Sengoku if i remember this right

 

[clavat_k]

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I mean it's not like The Prince rapes them, he woos them with the gifts and they decide to become his. Any theories on how and why enemy units choose to join us is speculation at best unless otherwise explicitly outlined in story dialogue, there's 0 indication that they don't join by choice even in the case of units who debut as enemies in the storyline.

there is one girl who says something about the matter.
the plat summoner said that she promised to behave after the prince talked to her.
the bondage play that some girls receive is consensual as far as i know.
(there is however rape in the game.)

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Anya rapes the prince.

 

[Lafate]

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I mean it's not like The Prince rapes them, he woos them with the gifts and they decide to become his. Any theories on how and why enemy units choose to join us is speculation at best unless otherwise explicitly outlined in story dialogue, there's 0 indication that they don't join by choice even in the case of units who debut as enemies in the storyline.

While he doesn't rape them(or who knows he may... I know Roana would love it... but is it rape if she wants it?). He does captures and then puts them in his harem. These are facts. At least in Bellinda's case.

She actively fights against us. Meaning she is on the battle field fighting for the enemy at the time. If she suddenly had a change of heart on the battle field the games dialogue would show that. However it doesn't which makes the scenario that she was knocked unconscious and captured. At some point after that she began to fight on your side. At a later point she is in the harem. Those are indisputable facts.

The most likely scenario with Bellinda was that Cloris saved her from being killed; or that Bellinda was given a stay of execution for fighting in the prince's army. The prince then took a shine to Bellinda and took her into his harem. Possibly with Anna pushing it; because correct me if I am wrong. She is the one to tell you to make girls fall in love with you so they fight harder in the war.

Which now that I think about it makes the prince a complete dick... Anna too.

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Anya rapes the prince.

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This is what one gets when putting a dragon girl into your harem. They aren't passive after all.. or submissive to most people... they are dragons

 

[Orion]

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Anya rapes the prince.

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The Blue Eyes-White Waifu, wut? Is it worse than Fedora?

 

[clavat_k]

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While he doesn't rape them(or who knows he may... I know Roana would love it... but is it rape if she wants it?). He does captures and then puts them in his harem. These are facts. At least in Bellinda's case.

She actively fights against us. Meaning she is on the battle field fighting for the enemy at the time. If she suddenly had a change of heart on the battle field the games dialogue would show that. However it doesn't which makes the scenario that she was knock unconscious and captured. At some point after that she began to fight on your side. At a later point she is in the harem.

The most likely scenario with Bellinda was that Cloris saved her from being killed; or that Bellinda was given a stay of execution for fighting in the princes army. The prince then took a shine to Bellinda and took her into his harem. Possibly with Anna pushing it; because correct me if I am wrong. She is the one to tell you to make girls fall in love with you so they fight harder in the war.

Which now that I think about it makes the prince a complete dick... Anna too.

Anna is the true mastermind behind the events of the game! Dun Dun Dun!
also most likely chloris was fighting to "save" her stepmother. (who most likely decided to join the harem willingly.)
Cloris

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During her scene she is the one in control. and its implied that she and the prince only had sex after she accepted the prince.

Bellinda

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Bellinda is implied to have been having consensual sex with the prince for a while before her first scene. and was forced by her stepmother to have a threesome.

Prince

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also its implied in the novels that the prince is actually a pushover and that he is being protected by the harem. so..

Clavat edit: NOTE Drania/Fedora Spoiler!

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The Blue Eyes-White Waifu, wut? Is it worse than Fedora?

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Fedora and the prince have consensual Submisive/Dominant sex.
its not actually rape as its implied that the prince is enjoying having her as the dominant.
Remember kids. Rape =non consensual and forced.

 

[Lafate]

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Anna is the true mastermind behind the events of the game! Dun Dun Dun!
also most likely chloris was fighting to "save" her stepmother. (who most likely decided to join the harem willingly.)
Cloris

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During her scene she is the one in control. and its implied that she and the prince only had sex after she accepted the prince.

Bellinda

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Bellinda is implied to have been having consensual sex with the prince for a while before her first scene. and was forced by her stepmother to have a threesome.

Prince

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also its implied in the novels that the prince is actually a pushover and that he is being protected by the harem. so..

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Fedora and the prince have consensual Submisive/Dominant sex.
its not actually rape as its implied that the prince is enjoying having her as the dominant.
Remember kids. Rape =non consensual and forced.

Cloris is the step mother though. She would be fighting to protect the stop daughter.

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I denounce the novels then D: that goes completely what was set up in the game. The prince is suppose to be a savoir. Replacing his father after his father gave his life so that he could escape the initial horde.

Like it is full understandable that an army would want to protect its general(and a harem its 'master' or whatever title you wish to put there... does it have an actual title by the way), but being a pushover does not really go well with being a savior and general. In a war for the world no less.

 

[Xovian]

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also its implied in the novels that the prince is actually a pushover and that he is being protected by the harem. so..

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Ahh, don't tell us that. You're saying we're a bunch of pansies?
Man, don't that just beat all.

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Fedora and the prince have consensual Submisive/Dominant sex.
its not actually rape as its implied that the prince is enjoying having her as the dominant.
Remember kids. Rape =non consensual and forced.

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Despara is the willing submissive in hers. So the game shows it both ways.

^Way too many spoilers going on here.

 

[dartred]

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another thing to rape. you can only rape some one with your penis to their vagina and vice versa. you can't rape some one with anal sex.

criminal justice side comes out when there's law talk >.<

 

[Orion]

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Fedora and the prince have consensual Submisive/Dominant sex.
its not actually rape as its implied that the prince is enjoying having her as the dominant.
Remember kids. Rape =non consensual and forced.

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Oh, I know I was just being silly, curious on what Anyas scenes are now, but will not go try looking for them. That note you made about The Prince explains a lot.

 

[Lafate]

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Ahh, don't tell us that. You're saying we're a bunch of pansies?
Man, don't that just beat all.

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Despara is the willing submissive in hers. So the game shows it both ways.

^Way too many spoilers going on here.

Yes, but completely warrented

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The case could be simply that the prince is always in control. I mean we know this is a harem. Not the Master/Slave type one that is normally depicted in that type of situation, but one nonetheless. If we were to say the prince truly loved all of his girls. He would attempt to make them all happy by playing the role of the partner they want in those sexual situation. So going full circle the prince could very well be in control of the D/s play with Fedora and simply allowing her to lead it as that is what would make her happy. Instead of you know forcing her into the submissive role.

another thing to rape. you can only rape some one with your penis to their vagina and vice versa. you can't rape some one with anal sex.

criminal justice side comes out when there's law talk >.<

and that is called 'forced sodomy' I believe. Granted I don't know all the technical law details going on there.