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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So here's what it all boils down to, as far as I can tell: What 'loli' means to us isn't what it means to Nutaku's nebulous payment services, who evidently have to be convinced through some sort of Orwellian doublethink process to lift their loli ban without acknowledging that these characters are lolis. Nutaku staff probably know it's blatantly silly to claim their games have no lolis, even in their current state, but they are still officially obliged to do that with a straight face while we point and laugh from the sidelines.

While I'm usually tough on Nutaku, I think I sympathize with them on this matter. That said, they probably shouldn't have contracted some Libyans in a park as their payment provider.
 
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Personally, I'd rather have a little less 'fairness and justice' and keep the game as it is, as opposed to the possibility that has been strongly hinted at that the entire game is shut down.

I mean, seriously. Its that bad? You just can't function with the units that have been made available so far? I get that some of the missing units are useful, but no unit should be essential. That's just bad design.
 
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Sashas said:
That sounds really good, a simple english original event would be a great way forward to fixing problems.
Clearly Conrad tricked the female silver ninja into kidnapping them for him and is on his way to collect his prizes.
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Silver Ninja Kagerou isn't that good.

No reason to assume she is loli. They're probably saving her release for when she is relevant.
 
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RabbitJack said:
Personally, I'd rather have a little less 'fairness and justice' and keep the game as it is, as opposed to the possibility that has been strongly hinted at that the entire game is shut down.

I mean, seriously. Its that bad? You just can't function with the units that have been made available so far? I get that some of the missing units are useful, but no unit should be essential. That's just bad design.
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Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
 
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RabbitJack said:
Personally, I'd rather have a little less 'fairness and justice' and keep the game as it is, as opposed to the possibility that has been strongly hinted at that the entire game is shut down.

I mean, seriously. Its that bad? You just can't function with the units that have been made available so far? I get that some of the missing units are useful, but no unit should be essential. That's just bad design.
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For me its about keeping the English game as close to the Japanese game as is reasonable. Having an awkward event schedule, alright fine. Being many months behind, absolutely fine. Having our unit choices limited and censored arbitrairily by some idiotic payment processor? Not something I'm comfortable with or accepting of.
 
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Nattorei said:
Silver Ninja Kagerou isn't that good.

No reason to assume she is loli. They're probably saving her release for when she is relevant.
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She's not loli but would make a great kidnapping accomplice to Conrad who is also not loli.
She has been delayed probably cause she's not relevant though.
 
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RabbitJack said:
Personally, I'd rather have a little less 'fairness and justice' and keep the game as it is, as opposed to the possibility that has been strongly hinted at that the entire game is shut down.

I mean, seriously. Its that bad? You just can't function with the units that have been made available so far? I get that some of the missing units are useful, but no unit should be essential. That's just bad design.
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Wait if you are referring to my plot over justice comment, I was talking more about big vs. small boobs. Like this
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Most of the girls in aigis are packing serious boobage (or at least my account is). Not enough realistic boob size representation.
 
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I was not referring to anyone in particular. I've been glazing over the whole loli argument as I personally don't care that they are missing. That said, from what I can tell there is a lot of finger-pointing at recent characters in other games. People are saying 'those are lolis, why can't we have them in our games?' What people don't seem to be getting is that those new characters are already pushing boundaries. If boundaries keep getting pushed, regulators can push back and we can lose the entire game. The risk is simply way too great to be adding more straws to this camel for me.
 
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Going to take fantasy and busty any day over realistic ;) I have the real world for realistic, dont need it in a game too.

Anyways, lets move on, best would be if JP and EN versions could align (minus the loli) and run on 'same' events within reasonable delays due to translation etc. as we are a bit low there compared to the JP multiples at the same time and could do with a slightly bigger content push, imho of course, but sounds like there are decent things up ahead, though obviously a more firm commitment to when we actually get things would be nice.
 
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Time to get rid of the camel and get a new one then.
 
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RabbitJack said:
What people don't seem to be getting is that those new characters are already pushing boundaries. If boundaries keep getting pushed, regulators can push back and we can lose the entire game.
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This is why you shouldn't just be "glazing over" before you respond. Go back and look at some examples posted. The boundaries have been utterly crushed into dust at this point, which is why we're all left confused.
 
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I just hope at least Memento passes through this loli-filter.
Also, we need Noel or someone else with gold buff added as event unit, and she even doesn't look different from Shiho or Solano.

RabbitJack said:
If boundaries keep getting pushed, regulators can push back and we can lose the entire game.
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Payment processors are not "regulators". They have no authority over game content, and they cannot "close game" if they snap. At worst, Nutaku will lose PayPal as option, and will have to work with less lucrative CC processing, like E-Gate. These guys don't mind loli or any other drawn content.

Edit: doesn't seem like there's paypal available anymore. I remember people saying probiller was redirecting to it recently, but its direct billing by probiller or epoch for me. Seems like there's less to lose than I thought, unless probiller is not just payment processor and has some kind of investment into nutaku.
 
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Is NutakuDev still around here?
I understand you can't say much about the developers decisions, but can you tell how are the chances, by now, to get exclusive units for this version? Either new ones or replacements for the missing.
Also, what is the current situation of the premium codes to unlock some characters? Are they being worked or nothing in sight yet?
 
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anon423 said:
Payment processors are not "regulators". They have no authority over game content, and they cannot "close game" if they snap. At worst, Nutaku will lose PayPal as option, and will have to work with less lucrative CC processing, like E-Gate. These guys don't mind loli or any other drawn content.

Edit: doesn't seem like there's paypal available anymore. I remember people saying probiller was redirecting to it recently, but its direct billing by probiller or epoch for me. Seems like there's less to lose than I thought, unless probiller is not just payment processor and has some kind of investment into nutaku.
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Ahh, ok. I feel a lot better now. Thanks!
 
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Well first I'd like to thank NutakuDev for commenting on the issue. Now we know what is going on, and I can once again defend you guys. I'm glad to see a majority of the fourteen or so missing units have been approved, and I can only imagine three of those being unapproved due to not being able to come up with why they are 18+ myself.

Well I hope everyone is happy with what information we get. I'll go back into the shadows until I'm needed again.
 
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A bit of a storm here, but Thanks Norland and Lafate, this sounds promising. Will continue with my monthly spend on the game :)

Actually this came at a good time, I was considering of switching over to DMM to get more unit variety.
 
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insanedar said:
A bit of a storm here, but Thanks Norland and Lafate, this sounds promising. Will continue with my monthly spend on the game :)

Actually this came at a good time, I was considering of switching over to DMM to get more unit variety.
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I have a DMM account and sometimes I want to drop it.

The variety that they have and the past event opportunities that they have had are so immense that I feel crushed knowing I'll never have near the same experience. Sticking with the same "basic" units a lot of the time.
 
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Lafate said:
Well first I'd like to thank NutakuDev for commenting on the issue. Now we know what is going on, and I can once again defend you guys. I'm glad to see a majority of the fourteen or so missing units have been approved, and I can only imagine three of those being unapproved due to not being able to come up with why they are 18+ myself.

Well I hope everyone is happy with what information we get. I'll go back into the shadows until I'm needed again.
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14 units we're missing? Damn I need to go back through and see who the other 8 or so are....
 
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Xine said:
14 units we're missing? Damn I need to go back through and see who the other 8 or so are....
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I listed them earlier and why they were missing.
 
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Xine said:
14 units we're missing? Damn I need to go back through and see who the other 8 or so are....
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We are currently missing:
  • silver Valkyrie Mischa,
  • silver Witch Nenya,
  • gold Archer Bella,
  • gold Archer Claire,
  • plat Witch Figuneria,
  • black Heavy Armour Dina,
  • black Healer Iris,
  • gold Avenger Dorothy,
  • gold Bishop Noel,
  • platinum Angel Chloe,
  • and platinum Shaman Kagura (not loli).
 
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