(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[anon423]

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Finally after about 20 runs, Cuterie is obtained. So all I have to do is have her in my active 15 party setup for the affection bonus, right? And she's worth putting some leveling into as the bonus increases with awakening, if I remember correctly.

Yes, as long as she's in the party that you use to do map, she will buff drop chances, no need to put her on map.
AW increases buff from 2% to 4%

 

[Eab1990]

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Conrad? Fuck that shit, I'mma run Monday daily.

... Except it's been so long since I ran the daily that I've forgotten my strat. Oh well, nothing a few black units can't carry me for.

 

[ziodyne]

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Conrad? Fuck that shit, I'mma run Monday daily.

Did this instead as well and I don't regret it, I ended up with 4 exp armors.

Btw does anyone know why Uzume costs so much exp to level up? I'm pretty sure she costs more than Sherry and Spica.. maybe it just seems that way but it feels like she levels so slow. She only went from 40 to 48 with exp armor and 3 plat fairies.

 

[anon423]

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She only went from 40 to 48 with exp armor and 3 plat fairies.

That's normal plat levelling. To get plat to 50 with exp armor, you need to feed it at level 41 with 281 exp left to 42.

 

[nissebrygger]

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Dear Bandits,

I dub thy sir pin cushion

- Bashira

Conrad on 5th attempt, all a matter of bait, good thing he is slow on that Segway, Bashira will outrun him easy

 

[Orion]

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9 runs and the Alt managed to get Conrad though I'm not particularly sure what to do with him since the CC'd Eunice I have does an okay job and I have Dahlia as well as a somewhat tanky duelist too so maybe I'll save him to help AW Cuterie, as for the Main I decided to only 3* his map for now and focus on trying to get Bernice once more which at 25 runs still no luck and since 25 is how much it took the alt to get Stray I guess the Main won't be following the Alt, here's hoping to at least 30 I'll get her.

 

[Nattorei]

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I don't know why everyone is worried about Liana's event right now. Wait until at least after Imeria before getting worked up.

But as long as we're on it... obviously the best solution would be to replace the Liana's with a black Iris with the same amount of CRs, SUS, and actual level. If they still can't get black Iris in, then just make it so CRs and SUs for combining duplicate Lianas have a 100% chance forever. That way, it allows those who rolled her the chance to combine the gacha duplicate(s) to get actual results while lowering the collection item threshold.

Edit: Plat armours... why...

 

[Sashas]

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The best option I think would be to have those with Liana that do her event get their gacha Liana improved instead of a fresh Liana, meaning you could get less items, if you got max items then just give a fresh Liana too.

This would be the most fiddly way but also be the most fair.

 

[Nattorei]

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The best option I think would be to have those with Liana that do her event get their gacha Liana improved instead of a fresh Liana, meaning you could get less items, if you got max items then just give a fresh Liana too.

This would be the most fiddly way but also be the most fair.

If your original gacha Liana is still her normal cost and 1/5, than improving her won't allow you less items.

 

[Nirhael]

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Even if they maxed the Premium-rolled Lianas for free, it still wouldn't cover the Sacred Crystal cost for most people that rolled her since she's a Black, it's nowhere near fair.

 

[Nattorei]

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Even if they maxed the Premium-rolled Lianas for free, it still wouldn't cover the Sacred Crystal cost for most people that rolled her since she's a Black, it's nowhere near fair.

Considering gacha results are all luck, I don't think that matters.

 

[Nirhael]

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Considering gacha results are all luck, I don't think that matters.

That's exactly why it matters, the guy who get her on his first Premium roll might not care and would be happy about anything he gets, the other guy who spent over a hundred Sacred Crystals will be pissed if the compensation is only equivalent to spending 30 or fewer Crystals on the actual Event.

I'm agreeing with you here, any sort of changes they do with Liana and her original Event isn't an appropriate compensation, the only real fix would be replacing the old copies with Iris like you said.

Though, considering this is the Nutaku version, I wouldn't be surprised if they just glossed over the issue. If it were the original DMM version the compensation for something like this would be outstanding, remember the long break with no compensation for the English version?

 

[Nattorei]

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That's exactly why it matters, the guy who get her on his first Premium roll might not care and would be happy about anything he gets, the other guy who spent over a hundred Sacred Crystals will be pissed if the compensation is only equivalent to spending 30 or fewer Crystals on the actual Event.

There are a variety of reasons why a guy who spends one hundred SC or more to get Liana shouldn't be mad, upset, or anything of the sort.

I'm agreeing with you here, any sort of changes they do with Liana and her original Event isn't an appropriate compensation, the only real fix would be replacing the old copies with Iris like you said.

I am disagreeing. People take up the compensation thing way too often in games where stats of something, anything, can be subject to change. The idea of replacing gacha Lianas with exact black Iris copies just makes sense. But if they can't, I already have, what I think, is a perfectly reasonable "compensation" for both the players and the devs.

Though, considering this is the Nutaku version, I wouldn't be surprised if they just glossed over the issue. If it were the original DMM version the compensation for something like this would be outstanding, remember the long break with no compensation for the English version?

We've been getting the shaft since day 1. So if they screwed up the whole debacle even more when Liana's event comes around, I wouldn't be surprised either. I wouldn't complain though, because I'd know ahead of time.

 

[Rawr1125]

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Conrad? Fuck that shit, I'mma run Monday daily.

... Except it's been so long since I ran the daily that I've forgotten my strat. Oh well, nothing a few black units can't carry me for.

Here, you can just use my strategy if you forgot.

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8 runs and 0 drops so far from Conrads map. For some reason he REALLY doesn't wanna join my party.

 

[Nirhael]

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There are a variety of reasons why a guy who spends one hundred SC or more to get Liana shouldn't be mad, upset, or anything of the sort.

So list some then, I'd figure someone who burnt 100+ Sacred Crystals for a good unit and getting a dud like Liana would be upset at least.

I am disagreeing. People take up the compensation thing way too often in games where stats of something, anything, can be subject to change. The idea of replacing gacha Lianas with exact black Iris copies just makes sense. But if they can't, I already have, what I think, is a perfectly reasonable "compensation" for both the players and the devs.

Having a unit get its stats nerfed is one thing, getting a weaker Event unit instead of an actual Premium one is another.

We've been getting the shaft since day 1. So if they screwed up the whole debacle even more when Liana's event comes around, I wouldn't be surprised either. I wouldn't complain though, because I'd know ahead of time.

I wouldn't be surprised if they screwed things up further either, but if we complain at least there's a chance something will be done. If all we do is suck it up and say nothing then nothing will change.

 

[Nattorei]

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So list some then, I'd figure someone who burnt 100+ Sacred Crystals for a good unit and getting a dud like Liana would be upset at least.

Having a unit get its stats nerfed is one thing, getting a weaker Event unit instead of an actual Premium one is another.

I wouldn't be surprised if they screwed things up further either, but if we complain at least there's a chance something will be done. If all we do is suck it up and say nothing then nothing will change.

The fact that he had that much SC to spend at all means he is well off in-game, in real life, or both. That is twenty rolls, which means not enough rolls to even guarantee a plat. You get what you get. Rolling for specific units is frivolous. There are other "duds" in the gacha.

The fact of the matter is that Liana is in the gacha regardless. Every time you roll, there is a chance to get her. You should accept that you might get this sub-par "dud" before clicking.

As for her event, complaining can get stuff changed. Personally, I do prefer to suck it up and deal with what we have regardless, even if that means some would call me passive, wimpy, having low standards, etc. However, the complaining should be done like this: through communication with Nutaku and/or the devs and once. Not over and over and over on a forum among ourselves.

 

[Nirhael]

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The fact that he had that much SC to spend at all means he is well off in-game, in real life, or both. That is twenty rolls, which means not enough rolls to even guarantee a plat. You get what you get. Rolling for specific units is frivolous. There are other "duds" in the gacha.

The fact of the matter is that Liana is in the gacha regardless. Every time you roll, there is a chance to get her. You should accept that you might get this sub-par "dud" before clicking.

As for her event, complaining can get stuff changed. Personally, I do prefer to suck it up and deal with what we have regardless, even if that means some would call me passive, wimpy, having low standards, etc. However, the complaining should be done like this: through communication with Nutaku and/or the devs and once. Not over and over and over on a forum among ourselves.

Whether one has spent 5 or 100 Sacred Crystals matters little, the mere fact that one has gotten an expensive Event Black instead of a powerful Premium one is frustrating. Even getting a Silver is less irritating since you don't think of what it should've been, you don't care what the Silver is since it's just food anyway.

Yes it's a fact that she's in the Shrine and there's nothing we can do about it, but there are 10 Black units available with one of them having increased rates, that's a one in 16 chance to get Liana, most people won't expect her.

And really, if the complaining bothers you so much, just ignore it. It'll die down soon enough by itself but if you add in an opposing opinion, we end up in our current predicament.

 

[xaxs]

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Wondering if I need second Cuterie... or better check if on alt tin cans will drop so nicely like on main.

 

[Blahblahblacksheep]

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9 runs and the Alt managed to get Conrad though I'm not particularly sure what to do with him since the CC'd Eunice I have does an okay job and I have Dahlia as well as a somewhat tanky duelist too so maybe I'll save him to help AW Cuterie, as for the Main I decided to only 3* his map for now and focus on trying to get Bernice once more which at 25 runs still no luck and since 25 is how much it took the alt to get Stray I guess the Main won't be following the Alt, here's hoping to at least 30 I'll get her.

Conrad can skill up Dahlia or Lyla if you're ever lucky enough to get her. That's what mine will do once I 30CC1 him. Golds are generally useful for having good skills to skill up other units with (or other golds). I'd double check a gold's skill before you consider using them as AW fodder.

 

[Xine]

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Wondering if I need second Cuterie... or better check if on alt tin cans will drop so nicely like on main.

Her ability doesn't stack with itself so not much point in keeping two of her.