(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Nattorei]

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*snip*

Most, if not all, G maps like Twin G behave the same way. That is to say, the ones with a gold, plat, and black spirit with a Rainbow completion reward have the three drops guaranteed.

I'd recommend saving your Rainbows. We are not in a hurry for AW skills and getting a few SUs on a few units isn't going to make or break anything in a long time. What skill level is your Fedora?

I think its about time for a skill level up guide, we should be at the stage where rainbow fairys become more common and knowing which units get more out of rainbow fairys than others would probably help quite a few people out.

While I could do it, I'm not too great at the actual making easy to read guides.

It really comes down to personal preference. Worrying about leveling skills and possibly AW'ing them is the end-game-est of content. Figure out who you have and who is useful and decide how much their skill is worth to you. Raise the skills accordingly. Considering that our event schedule, even with breaks, is frequent enough that we're still getting butt-loads of new units. It's better to save in case you get something good in the future. And Lafate does have the AW skills if you really want to plan ahead.

Funny thing is: Before I read your comment I was thinking about commenting that his units are of surprisingly low level for his level. He's level 197, while I'm only level 194. Yet I have all my blacks (Karma, Anya and Saki. I'm a freemium), 13 plat units (inlcuding Gellius, whom I never use, but who might get useful in the future) and 9 gold units at max level.* But probably that's because in general I'm pretty badlucky with lottery and thus haven't rolled for about 7 months or so. Therefore obviously I have less units in total that I COULD level. My only plat units from gacha (no unit of higher rarity than silver from 2k, despite 2.5 mio G spent) are Thetis (only one I really like), Gellius and Victoria, so yeah... My plat and black units from gacha would fit on one page without scrolling as well xD

I'm struggling to max the event units I find worthy. Just got Lynn and Shiho done a few weeks ago. Maxed Spica yesterday. Bashira is one Armour away from max. I've got the old events like Maribel, Echidna, Solano, and a few others maxed, but newer ones like Horace and Rika are next on my list.

At least you have gacha plats! Some people get smashed in the face.

 

[Sashas]

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Lafate has already generated a very nice skill guide. Its linked under their signature.

There's a difference between a guide and a list, Lafate has a list not a guide.

It really comes down to personal preference. Worrying about leveling skills and possibly AW'ing them is the end-game-est of content. Figure out who you have and who is useful and decide how much their skill is worth to you. Raise the skills accordingly. Considering that our event schedule, even with breaks, is frequent enough that we're still getting butt-loads of new units. It's better to save in case you get something good in the future. And Lafate does have the AW skills if you really want to plan ahead.

I'd really have to disagree with saving them, unless you have absolutely nothing decent to level. You do not want to save them for some mythical gacha unit you may or may not get and you don't want to use them on most event units if you can help it either, since there are often far better ways to level their skills. Not to mention all the precious space they could take up only to never get used.
This is why a guide would be good, so people don't end up sitting on rainbow fairys when they have decent unit they could use them on, or making a mistake and using it on a unit like Spicas first skill up

 

[Fayne]

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I'm struggling to max the event units I find worthy. Just got Lynn and Shiho done a few weeks ago. Maxed Spica yesterday. Bashira is one Armour away from max. I've got the old events like Maribel, Echidna, Solano, and a few others maxed, but newer ones like Horace and Rika are next on my list.

At least you have gacha plats! Some people get smashed in the face.

I guess that's true. Truth to be told, without getting Thetis (I really like(d) her art, not even knowing, that she becomes pretty useful with her ability to resist status effects) I had rerolled the account back then though.

The event units I have not maxed are Shiho, Charlotte, Horace, Ada, Len, Asami, Beatrice and Marie*

*Shiho (CC44, but I never really use her, so meh...), Charlotte and Horace (46 and 40, still not sure whom to pick. I hate Horace' looks but like her skill better. But since I don't find Magic Fencers that useful so far I leveled neither), Ada (44, I keep her as a low cost unit until the buff for rogues), Len (35, I didn't like her art, her mechanic and she was to expencive, thus she's only -2,2/5 and my only not max CRed event unit besides...), Asami (used her to skill up Saki, only kept her spare units, so I have her at -2, 2/5. Not only is she worse than Saki in almost every aspect [cost is her only strength], I don't like her art neither), Beatrice (not sure whether I should level her or not, I don't like her skill. And neither do I like her art very much, nor do I like firearms in my fantasy setting games. Furthermore I was busy leveling...) and Marie (CC42, Clausias event kicked in before I was done leveling her).

I did a lot of my leveling on Dragon Hunting before auto complete. More prince exp, less fodder for leveling units.

What about your Silvers? Are they all maxed?

Also spent a bit of exp ccing the silver dragons to raise Despara to skill 4/5.

Ah, that explains it. I didn't really bother with silver units. I have only Calliope and Pallis at 50, Daniela, Soma, Alyssa and Cecily at 41 and Leanne at 34. The rest of my silvers has been or will be used for awakening purposes.

I did Dragon Hunting up until auto-complete as well though. And I leveled the skill of my Thetis with CCed Gadorasus. Got her only up to 3/5 though, had to keep the last 2 CCed Gadorasus for awakening.

 

[Nirhael]

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Using Rainbow Fairies is simple: Use them for Skills that you can't raise otherwise(e.g. unique Skills/Premium unit Skills) and final points that can't be gotten with common units.

 

[Nattorei]

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I'd really have to disagree with saving them, unless you have absolutely nothing decent to level. You do not want to save them for some mythical gacha unit you may or may not get and you don't want to use them on most event units if you can help it either, since there are often far better ways to level their skills. Not to mention all the precious space they could take up only to never get used.
This is why a guide would be good, so people don't end up sitting on rainbow fairys when they have decent unit they could use them on, or making a mistake and using it on a unit like Spicas first skill up

There is no harm to saving them. And guides just take away from the game and delude with the notion that there is a right answer. Okay, we'll argue for the next 50 pages on who gets what and why anything is good. We'll even cross-reference with DMM players. We'll compile a numerical list of units that are "the best," or at least their skills are. And every player should just go down the list throwing Rainbows at their units who place highly on the list.

Players should recognize the rarity of Rainbows and the usefulness of their own units and make a decision for themselves.

And neither do I like her art very much, nor do I like firearms in my fantasy setting games. Furthermore I was busy leveling...) and Marie (CC42, Clausias event kicked in before I was done leveling her).

Well Pirates, Sailors, and Puppeteers all use guns. And just wait for Cannoneers; big explosive bullet > puny pistol/rifle bullet.

 

[Rawr1125]

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All of this skill level talk reminded me of my very first event unit.

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[Lafate]

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Fate-Kun Officially joining the 200+ Club yay!

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[Karsuman]

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Agreed with Nat.

A skill level guide is probably a bit much. I mean, I don't think anyone needs to tell you that skill leveling Elizabeth, Rachel and Mar is high impact and skill leveling Bashira or a soldier is low impact. You can just look at the cataloged number changes - I think the EN wiki even has info on most skill changes, doesn't it? Even if not, they are displayed well enough on a machine-translated JP wiki that anyone can understand the impact skill level to skill level. What is worth it is also gonna be highly subjective since people will often be attached to their units anyway.

If you're talking about Skill Awakenings and which ones are worth it, I can tell you broadly that most premium gacha units, especially platinum+, have good ones. And that even farther into the future you guys will get event units that can feed Reinforce 3 and Triple Shot. Over a year+ away for both of these things though.

tl;dr: It's easy to find the impact of individual skill levels and rainbow use is gonna be subjective anyway since many people will just play favorites.

 

[Nirhael]

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skill leveling a soldier is low impact.

No, no it's not.

Most of the time, you'll be dropping a Soldier down as your first unit and getting that +15 UP can make or break strategies. On harder maps, you'll likely want your Soldiers to stick around long enough to use their skill a second or even third time for extra UP, so that you can deploy your expensive units like Mages or Anya.

When/If we get Subjugation Missions, you'll definitely want them to start pumping out UPs as soon as possible since UP don't generate automatically on those maps.

 

[AE1992]

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Congrats Lafate.

As for rainbow fairies, I personally believe its best to keep them for a unit with a unique skill or getting the last skill level of a unit.

 

[Karsuman]

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No, no it's not.

Most of the time, you'll be dropping a Soldier down as your first unit and getting that +15 UP can make or break strategies. On harder maps, you'll likely want your Soldiers to stick around long enough to use their skill a second or even third time for extra UP, so that you can deploy your expensive units like Mages or Anya.

When/If we get Subjugation Missions, you'll definitely want them to start pumping out UPs as soon as possible since UP don't generate automatically on those maps.

Compared to other things, that IS low impact. Many units gain additional benefits on top of cooldown reduction. Useless? Certainly not, but it wouldn't be the first thing I would throw rainbows at personally(the only reason any of my soldiers outside of Zenobia on DMM are skill leveled is because of the Liselotte event). Also if you can actually keep your soldier around for three uses, the stage is probably not that hard.

As for subjugation, 90% of these stages is fighting trash mobs. You do not need high slvl soldiers to outramp several minutes of trash mobs. In a few of these stages I've used only one soldier because two was unnecessary. Those with less premium gacha units* may need two soldiers, but even then, none of these subjugation stages are anywhere near fast enough to actually require skill levels.

*Edit: Yes, I did some of these before I had Aisha. Now there's some high-impact skill leveling, a unit that does it for you for free

 

[supercowman24]

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I'm super torn right now.

I just ran out of SC, and I only have 769 fangs, so I'll probably need to spend at least 10-15 before the end of monday if I want to Max her out.

Thing is, I already have Sybilla (Got her two weeks ago and burned a bunch of Rainbow fairies to get her to 5/5 skill) so I'm not sure if this new princess will have a good place in my team.

I limit myself to about 100/mo on nutaku games. That gets split between whatever I'm playing. I've dropped Girls Kingdom and Hitsuji Chronicle and Osawari and and pretty much down to Kanpani Girls and Aegis. Kanpani really hasn't had anything for me to spend money on aside from the initial spend to unlock extra teams and box slots.


The part I'm torn about:
Aegis event pace and dev support has been lacking, but NutakuDev's post earlier gave me some hope...

But Flower Knight Girl was announced to be coming soon, and if I end up liking that then I'll probably want some spare cash to drop on that...

I really wish Aegis didn't have its tiered SC purchases. I feel like I need to wait and buy in sets of 150 SC or else I'm not getting my money's worth.

Otherwise I could just do just enough to finish this event and wait to see if the rest was worth it.

 

[Nirhael]

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Compared to other things, that IS low impact. Many units gain additional benefits on top of cooldown reduction. Useless? Certainly not, but it wouldn't be the first thing I would throw rainbows at personally(the only reason any of my soldiers outside of Zenobia on DMM are skill leveled is because of the Liselotte event). Also if you can actually keep your soldier around for three uses, the stage is probably not that hard.

As for subjugation, 90% of these stages is fighting trash mobs. You do not need high slvl soldiers to outramp several minutes of trash mobs. In a few of these stages I've used only one soldier because two was unnecessary. Those with less premium gacha units* may need two soldiers, but even then, none of these subjugation stages are anywhere near fast enough to actually require skill levels.

*Edit: Yes, I did some of these before I had Aisha. Now there's some high-impact skill leveling, a unit that does it for you for free

Maybe it's a difference in perspective, there's very few Skills I'd be willing to throw Rainbow Fairies at, Soldiers will always be relevant while a higher multiplier/duration on other units is usually there just to reach certain breakpoints in a handful of maps.

Take the final 50/2 map we've got on DMM right now, you can keep a Soldier around for nearly the entirety of it to generate the UP you need to take out the boss. Is the stage itself particularly hard? Not really, but the boss is difficult to handle and having a lot of UPs allows a player to rotate units/summon tokens to deal with it more easily.

While you might not need fast UP generating Soldiers due to your high-power Premium team, not everyone has access to that and it does matter for a lot of maps.

 

[Sisulart]

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*snip*

With Sybilla you won't use Claudia much, so stopping at 800 fangs is good enough for you. I have a 2CR and 9/10 Claudia on DMM and i never used her, since i have other units that can do the job better and i'm a freemium player with not a single gacha black.

 

[Lafate]

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Eh? Rainbows fairies? Here is all you need to know.

Hoard them.

Only spend them when one of two things happen.

1. You need to increase a unit skill to beat a map.
2. You need to max out a skill to awaken said skill.

Other then that hoard.

 

[anon423]

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But Flower Knight Girl was announced to be coming soon, and if I end up liking that then I'll probably want some spare cash to drop on that...

FKG is like Kampani, there's nothing to spend money beyond gacha, but rates for rainbows are terrible and you will get more than enough golds (one rarity less than rainbow in FKG) from events and gacha with free stones. Only thing I was ever tempted to spend money there is that guaranteed rainbow ticket they sell for 5000 Yen sometimes, but I doubt they will do that on Nutaku any time soon.

 

[Larcx]

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Hoard??
I find that word so tempting....

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Only 6% drop IIRC from the sheet

I wonder.....
When I will go this crazy again on Nutaku...
Currently got 10 Rainbow Fairy from 6% drop~

 

[Karsuman]

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Rainbow fairy drops were buffed on DMM. Don't know the numbers yet, though.

Also if you have Celia, her passive was buffed as well.

 

[Larcx]

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Rainbow fairy drops were buffed on DMM. Don't know the numbers yet, though.

Also if you have Celia, her passive was buffed as well.

Right , but I do not own Celia~
Let say that is 10%

 

[danryd]

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The sheer amount of feedback to a small question from a little guy is awesome. I love this community SO much XD.

@Larcx: And yeah, I only JUST recently got Themis and haven't gotten to leveling her yet (Priority has been on Spica, Bashira, and Iris). I plan on power leveling her ASAP. Meaning after I get my last two healers maxed.

This:

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ends up being my final layout for it XD. And yeah, Asami is fairly meh, but I don't have Saki.