(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Blahblahblacksheep]

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I goofed, we don't have angel or Feng shui yet despite those being on weekdays too. So eh.

I could still see dev tea trolling us on Monday. "What do you mean nobody has Yurina?"

I don't understand this toxic attitude. The only actual blame I can lay on our dev team is being understaffed. They have been consistent and competent. Yet there's always room to blame them for some imagined shortcoming when you have DMM Aigis to point to and completely unfair double standards.

+Complain our Aigis isn't the same as their Aigis
-Complain when our Aigis releases AW the same way their Aigis did. Which is it?

+Our Aigis has much fewer bugs than their's
-Complain we don't get as many apology crystals

+A few bugs sneak through anyways, and we DO get apology crystals
-Complain anyways despite them being resolved in 48 hours or less (most in 24, and even the stamp card thing was purely a visual bug)

I do hope that the announcement mentioned will be some kind of joint or full developer control shift to Nutaku, which would mean more resources shifted to our Aigis and more updates, etc., but again the only thing the current dev team has done wrong is being shortstaffed. I don't have employee records to back that up but I feel it's a fairly logical conclusion to draw considering the evidence of that company's results (( such a successful venture wouldn't keep so many people working to produce as little as our Aigis has compared to their other projects )).

 

[Rawr1125]

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Thing is with that, the only Valkyrie I have is Kerry. Speaking of which, is her boost in attack a good trade off for her decreased DPS? I was debating about it...her field sprite looks really neat though.

Depends on what you need the dps for, and if you can level her skill to increase the dps further. If you need consistent damage throughout a level, then you'd probably take Cellia. If you need a short burst of damage every once in a while, probably Kerry.

Kerry needs a minimum of skill lv 2 to surpass Cellia in damage while skill is up.

560 vs 524

If you somehow max Kerry's skill, then it becomes 689 vs 524. This is excluding other buffs, like prince buff, etc though. Also doesn't count the atk difference with Awakening.

 

[Orion]

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Depends on what you need the dps for, and if you can level her skill to increase the dps further. If you need consistent damage throughout a level, then you'd probably take Cellia. If you need a short burst of damage every once in a while, probably Kerry.

Kerry needs a minimum of skill lv 2 to surpass Cellia in damage while skill is up.

560 vs 524

If you somehow max Kerry's skill, then it becomes 689 vs 524. This is excluding other buffs, like prince buff, etc though. Also doesn't count the atk difference with Awakening.

Well, I figured that her AWA might be a hindrance because it goes against the Valkyrie's use. Thinking about it though, I mostly use her against bosses and she's a bit expensive to deploy early. I've been looking at some videos too and her decreased DPS doesn't seem too bad, though that might change when I'm actually using her.

 

[Eab1990]

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-snip-

Literally what the FUCK was the point of this post? The dev team IS basically trolling us by excluding Nenya/Kagerou/Mischa once again despite having the go-ahead, or only including Dina as an enemy, or still not giving us a TP update or Yurina. Why on earth do you feel the need to call my posts (even the joking ones, apparently) "toxic" when you constantly excuse their missteps?

Not once did I hold it against the dev team over the visual bug (I even got tired of people not realizing that it was just a visual bug when it was clear if you just checked your mailbox or refreshed your SC count), and I backed off when people pointed out that AW princesses were not available from the start. I'm still not excusing them for their constant withholding of other content.

Also fucking lol, they have never been "consistent and competent" in any sense of the word. It takes a special kind of shill to say that with a straight face when your "one-year anniversary celebration" is saying that Awakening will be three weeks late.

 

[akoss]

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Kerry's awakening ability isn't a downgrade in general. She also gets extra levels of stats. The one situation the passive is worse is when the only enemies she kills have the effective health values where she 2 hit kills with or without awakening.

 

[Orion]

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Kerry's awakening ability isn't a downgrade in general. She also gets extra levels of stats. The one situation the passive is worse is when the only enemies she kills have the effective health values where she 2 hit kills with or without awakening.

I was more going for 'double-edged sword' than straight up downgrade. I'm leaning towards considering it, but what's leaving doubt are scenarios where she may let enemies go past her because of her decreased DPS, when pre-AW she wouldn't have.

Her AW field sprite looks pretty cool too...

 

[akoss]

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Her dps is higher though, it just has breakpoints where pre awakening kills faster. I'm not actually sure how severe the attack speed downgrade is, but 35% more damage is pretty huge.

 

[Xine]

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I was more going for 'double-edged sword' than straight up downgrade. I'm leaning towards considering it, but what's leaving doubt are scenarios where she may let enemies go past her because of her decreased DPS, when pre-AW she wouldn't have.

Her AW field sprite looks pretty cool too...

I think the word you're looking for is "Attack Speed" and not "DPS" (Damage Per Second.)

I haven't AW'd her yet, but I also have other units in priority atm considering she's also my only Valkyrie aside from Elaine, who is damn near useless. But if you want to know the difference in attack speed both before and after Awakening her, it shouldn't be too hard to find by looking at some of the Japanese wiki pages for Aigis.

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It's about 25~30% slower than her pre-AW attack speed according to the chart I found on

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[Nattorei]

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We only have one shaman, one bishop, and one advance/rear strategist and their AWs are implemented.

Speaking of which, my Shiho is all nice and bouncy now. I mean her sprite. Her tush is still cute too.

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I'd understand if they removed cannoneer orbs on Monday, but this...

Makes me wonder if dev tea will troll us by giving us Yurina's orb before we even get her or something.

DMM had to wait for Sailor AW too. And they may or may not have had the plat Sailor Vieira during that wait period.

Although you get +100000 points for AW'ing Shiho. *high fives*

I was more going for 'double-edged sword' than straight up downgrade. I'm leaning towards considering it, but what's leaving doubt are scenarios where she may let enemies go past her because of her decreased DPS, when pre-AW she wouldn't have.

Her AW field sprite looks pretty cool too...

It seems bad, but it is worth it after you get her back up in levels. While slower, she can 1-shot a wider variety of small enemies. And if she is getting swarmed that hard that she's letting enemies go after AW, chances are she would only catch one or two extra enemies before AW. I understand your hesitance, but people have no faith in Kerry. Dang Thetis taking the spotlight.

 

[Xine]

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but people have no faith in Kerry. Dang Thetis taking the spotlight.

Say what you want, but Kerry is adorable, dunno why but I prefer her pre-AW art myself, but that AW sprite looks pretty bad ass.

 

[kleem]

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I have to say I hated the Valkyrie class in general.Maybe it is cause we got Kerry at the start and how much she costed,but once I used Mischa on DMM she is so useful I can't hate her.Havn't raised any other Valk even though I have Imelia and Thetis on DMM.

As far as the Bandit discussion unless you get lucky with gacha no reason to use Bandits till we get Imeria in my opinion.

 

[Eab1990]

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DMM had to wait for Sailor AW too. And they may or may not have had the plat Sailor Vieira during that wait period.

Although you get +100000 points for AW'ing Shiho. *high fives*

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me since Beatrice came after AW, but it wouldnt have killed them to include sailor AW now. And again, Yurina came before, so that's another unnecessary edit they'll have to make when Monday rolls around.

Unless, of course, our next event is Yurina. But I won't get my expectations up for that.

Shiho bumped up to first priority since I couldn't AW Lilia. Can't complain since Shiho has been immensely helpful to me.

 

[xaxs]

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That moment when you realize that you want to farm today's orb after random try for 3 staring it and you're half a day behind... and it's night soon. Damn.

 

[kleem]

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Shiho bumped up to first priority since I couldn't AW Lilia. Can't complain since Shiho has been immensely helpful to me.

Yeah Shiho is pretty awsome.I thought I heard shamans weren't that good when her event rolled around and was worried about me using her all the time.Good thing that was wrong.

 

[Xine]

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Not sure what the confusion is with being able to Awaken certain units and not being able to Awaken others, if there isn't a tab for them in the Awakening list of Orbs right now, I figure its pretty safe to assume they can't be Awoken yet. Which includes the lack of Dark Knight, Cannoneer/Cannon Master (whatever they translate it to), Feng-Shui User, Sailor Chief, Fallen Angel, Battle Mage, Battle Priest, Dancer, Dragon Knight, Ranger, Bow Rider, Puppeteer, Alchemist, Thief and Curse User Orbs, then the obvious lack of the "Special Units" tab for Princesses, Onmyoujis, Necromancers, Druids, Dark Priest, Enchanter, Merchant, Summoner, Chrono Witch, and a list of others I'm forgetting.

 

[Nirhael]

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As for Kerry... considering the fact that we still don't have Mischa, yeah, I'd AW her if you don't have a Premium Valkyrie. The only other Valkyrie you might get would be Emilia and she doesn't fill the niche Mischa has, which is being an early-deployment Goblin-train wrecker. Even if Kerry's attack speed is slower after AW, it's still enough to catch everything and being able to one-shot them is a significant improvement over needing two hits. There's also the fact that her Attack is pretty darn high, even beating Dahlia with her +7% boost, add in her Skill and you've got a very high-power duelist.

I really see Kerry's AW as mandatory for using her, the lack of Attack from Affection puts her in a really bad position, making her unable to take out even Goblins with a single hit(unless you're running a very easy map).

 

[Xion]

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You know what fuck it people, i'm gonna AW Kerry and use the 2 extra copies i have to cost reduce her once she is AW!! (It's her or Conrad so i'm gonna choose the cute one)

 

[Rawr1125]

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(It's her or Conrad so i'm gonna choose the cute one)

Conrad it is then.

 

[xaxs]

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Conrad fetish. Not even jp can be so... perverse xP

 

[Xine]

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Conrad fetish. Not even jp can be so... perverse xP

What? You mean you don't see Conrad in the mirror when you look at yourself in the mirror?