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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


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I just got Camilla

Should I bother leveling her up or is she not worth it? I already have Iris, Alissa, Fedora and Liana all cc'd at pretty high levels. Don't really want to bother with her if she is just barely better than Iris
 
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Well, Farune appears to be fully functional, aside from the Japanese text and busted picture in her details.

Turns out a Black Summoner is really good at killing mooks, even if most of them have 50 MR. On the other hand, trying to take screenshots while the game is running isn't the greatest way to 3 star missions.
 

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Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

ziodyne said:
I just got Camilla

Should I bother leveling her up or is she not worth it? I already have Iris, Alissa, Fedora and Liana all cc'd at pretty high levels. Don't really want to bother with her if she is just barely better than Iris
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I have that exact same problem, 16 cost AW Fedora, 18 cost Iris, 24 cost Liana and a soon to be 21 cost Camilla (also a 17 cost Marr).
Camilla is our strongest healer when skills are accounted for (and 3 cheaper than Liana too) so I'm going to AW her as my 2nd healer.

Iris is nice but I need someone with strength, I doubt we'd need someone with Camillas strength AW right now, but by the time we could awaken her we should appreciate it.

If I was forced to AW Iris right now for a event, I'd still replace her with Camilla at the earliest opportunity.
 
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anon423 said:
That's not what you use angels for. Its like saying Katie cannot solo Mithril Golem therefore she sucks and not essential unit.

Also, its funny how you at same time claimed Yurina IS essenial unit while she's pretty much useless and doesn't have any niche to shine. She's my second AWed unit on DMM and out of everyone I AWed she got least amount of sorties.
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Well I'm glad that there is a set list of maps and situations where using an Angel is the only right decision and using them outside that set means the player is bad for trying.

I used Sophie because I had her and because she is good. But even the best units have some sort of weakness.

I never touted Yurina as essential, just that people should be complaining about her missing more than Mischa. And I still stand by this. Her event was also SC and a chance to farm silvers as well as general content. As for usefulness, just because you and maybe some other well-spoken, high-level veterans have no need for her doesn't mean she is bad or not worth farming should we get her event.

Xcellion said:
Pardon me for interrupting but curse you all for having millions of gold while I'm perpetually stuck at around 700,000. This is while I've been around since near the beginning of the English version.

With that out of the way, @Nattorei I'd like to point out that, other than the obvious reason of not having her, the others that are stressing on how Mischa is so important is because of her Heal skill, which lets her heal herself whenever she wants and not have to rely on Healers as much.

It's that, combined with high attack and low cost, that the others are praising her and saying that she is a very important unit to have.

What I'm trying to say here is regardless of whether or not you find the missing units useful, others do, and they are supposed to be in the game, so it's better to not complain about the complainers complaining about not having the unit in the game. It's still annoying to sift through dozens of pages repeating the same argument over and over though.

On the topic of gold, again fuck y'all as not everyone is capable of getting into the millions like it's a walk in the park.
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Her heal skill? I've never heard anyone say good things about a heal skill. Everyone says Rowanna is trash. Everyone says Clissa is trash until skill AW.

I am not denying Mischa is useful. I just don't see why people are complaining about her over other units. People are beating Nutaku maps fairly well. We get Mischa, you make a few minor changes, and boom you're beating the map just a few seconds faster. She isn't essential, she is just a silver.

My argument was against Daverost. Despite missing a good handful of units, their absence doesn't hurt our ability to keep up with the difficulty of events in any significant way.
 
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Damn -,- Just waiting time on X map. Not enough UPs and those AoEs are real pain -,-'
 
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Nattorei said:
Her heal skill? I've never heard anyone say good things about a heal skill. Everyone says Rowanna is trash. Everyone says Clissa is trash until skill AW.
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I dunno about Mischa or Rowanna skills, but Clissa is not trash, she's a great physical duelist, its not the most useful skill but it certainly works well in places. It may only be useful in half the maps I deploy her in, but when its good, its good.

I also use Cuterie fairly often when things aren't going well, and while Cuterie comes in handy, her Heal III skill is used once in a blue moon. If Clissa was a plat I'd rarely use it and probably call it trash then. Not to mention, I'd be using Thetis instead.

One example out of many for Clissa would be todays AW daily, place everything but Clissa near the start then when Minerva comes out slap Clissa on her with no heals or dps support. Clissa kills her after using her skill and ends up with low health before being retreated (mages attack her too before and after Minerva).



There was a following failure from March 15th (Tue) after maintenance,
till March 16th, (Wed) 04:55 (EST) .
We have updated the data to fix this failure.

- Failure that the Unit which was not yet officially implemented,
appeared in Premium Summons.


It is now been fixed so that it will not occur.
As for the [Unit without [Unit Name], [-] face icon],
there will not be a failure incurred by possessing such Unit.
However, we advise you to not to use it and wait until
the official implementation.

This is the best outcome I think.
 
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Nattorei said:
Well I'm glad that there is a set list of maps and situations where using an Angel is the only right decision and using them outside that set means the player is bad for trying.

I used Sophie because I had her and because she is good. But even the best units have some sort of weakness.
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Well that's how it is for most units, even if Nanally's ridiculously strong, deploying her to deal with a 1k Def boss isn't going to be effective, there's a time and place for every unit and only a few don't care(e.g. Aisha, works everywhere).
Nattorei said:
Her heal skill? I've never heard anyone say good things about a heal skill. Everyone says Rowanna is trash. Everyone says Clissa is trash until skill AW.

I am not denying Mischa is useful. I just don't see why people are complaining about her over other units. People are beating Nutaku maps fairly well. We get Mischa, you make a few minor changes, and boom you're beating the map just a few seconds faster. She isn't essential, she is just a silver.

My argument was against Daverost. Despite missing a good handful of units, their absence doesn't hurt our ability to keep up with the difficulty of events in any significant way.
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It's actually good on Mischa because she's a cheap Goblin-slayer and won't be taking that much damage since she can one-shot purple ones and two-shot Reds.

The thing about Rowanna is that the Skill goes against the whole point of Avengers: Staying at low HP to deal more damage.

As for Clissa... a self-heal is pretty underwhelming for a Premium Black, seriously, it's probably the worst Skill out of every Black in the game.
 
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Sashas said:
- Failure that the Unit which was not yet officially implemented,
appeared in Premium Summons.
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Here goes theory that they cannot just copypaste code from DMM and work hard day and night to re-implement content for Nutaku: apparently stuff IS copypasted as is, and "unimplemented" units are already there in Nutaku version, with sprites, skills, abilities and so on, just with default japanese text instead.
 
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In the grand scheme most unit classes aren't some sort of mandatory pick; the units a player uses are almost certainly just as defined by previous user experience and bias as they are actual power level. I know for a fact I tend to gravitate towards units I'm more comfortable with, sometimes overlooking a better choice. And I'm a guy with a lot of black units.

Fact is, neither dark knights or angels are essential. Sure would be nice to have all of these units available on Nutaku so people could decide for themselves what they want to use, though. :)

With that out of the way, @Nattorei I'd like to point out that, other than the obvious reason of not having her, the others that are stressing on how Mischa is so important is because of her Heal skill, which lets her heal herself whenever she wants and not have to rely on Healers as much.
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I can assure you that her heal skill has nothing to do with it. If Mischa had Attack Up, people would take it over Heal in a second.

It is generally considered the worst generic active skill in the game.


Edit: It is true that Thetis is generally preferred before SAW. While 'Trash' is likely a very, very strong overstatement, Clissa is often called one of the weaker blacks, even after SAW, so it's not unsurprising that Nattorei characterized her that way. Still, she's a gacha black, and as such incredibly useful and likely indispensable to those that have her.

That said, If I played Nutaku and had her, I'd be pretty sad about having to wait a year+ for her SAW right about now.
 
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Karsuman said:
In the grand scheme most unit classes aren't some sort of mandatory pick; the units a player uses are almost certainly just as defined by previous user experience and bias as they are actual power level. I know for a fact I tend to gravitate towards units I'm more comfortable with, sometimes overlooking a better choice. And I'm a guy with a lot of black units.
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This is a fact for me. I have my comfort picks that I gravitate to when things get serious, but I will usually make some silly team that doesn't care about efficiency or being the best in slot for a mission. I will bring a team of high cost units because I can do it. I can bring a team of ninjas because it's funny.

I am going to agree that Dark Knights and Angels aren't essential, considering that I did not need to use one for most of my time spent playing Aigis on DMM. An Angel is nice to have for sure, but I was rarely in a situation that it became a must-have unit to have in my team. The only time I really needed to deploy one was during Paula's event, but events afterwards did not require that I need to deploy her and I can use a variety of other options available that can take on the task.

As for Yurina: There are just too many problems with this class unless they are the Dark Knight or Cornelia. They are sitting in between Heavy Armors and Mage Armors. Other than the two Black units, the rest won't see use in the end-game meta, which requires units that fulfill specific roles better. Yurina is just a utility melee unit whose only purpose is to provide a temporary global damage reduction. She's not great as a tank and she's not great as a fighter.
 
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anon423 said:
Here goes theory that they cannot just copypaste code from DMM and work hard day and night to re-implement content for Nutaku: apparently stuff IS copypasted as is, and "unimplemented" units are already there in Nutaku version, with sprites, skills, abilities and so on, just with default japanese text instead.
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You really thought that they were are hard working people? This is not the first time that a unit that is "not yet implemented" has made its way to BS summon, don't you remember the incident with Kojuro and Shizuka?

Although it appears that this time they're not going to take away the units and refund the SC.
 
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Was there a silent buff to some of the enemies? I was able to 3 star the X map yesterday and now bad things keep happening and I can only 2 star because somebody dies.

Edit: I changed my strat to just use karma to kill the samurai girl and now it works relatively fine... half of the time. I'm debating if I should AW Garania for the extra 7% mage attack since I can't AW any soldiers yet.
 
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omega780 said:
Was there a silent buff to some of the enemies? I was able to 3 star the X map yesterday and now bad things keep happening and I can only 2 star because somebody dies.

Edit: I changed my strat to just use karma to kill the samurai girl and now it works relatively fine... half of the time. I'm debating if I should AW Garania for the extra 7% mage attack since I can't AW any soldiers yet.
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maple seems to either get a boost at low hp or all the units with her make it worse after i started throwing 3rd healer down early i was fine though
 
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Guys, I need screens of units from aw menu (or after awakening on lvl 1) to update stats and passives on wikia. If you happen to have one of those characters CCed and can make a picture (even if it's not maxed you can enter characters stats and have like 1 sec to make a screen before it kicks you out) would be highly appreciated.

I still need Robert, Garania, Gina, Azami, Liddy, Akane, Kojuro, Chizuru, Ada, Adele, Despara.
 
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Urizithar said:
Guys, I need screens of units from aw menu (or after awakening on lvl 1) to update stats and passives on wikia. If you happen to have one of those characters CCed and can make a picture (even if it's not maxed you can enter characters stats and have like 1 sec to make a screen before it kicks you out) would be highly appreciated.

I still need Robert, Garania, Gina, Azami, Liddy, Akane, Kojuro, Chizuru, Ada, Adele, Despara.
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Here's Akane, Azami and Kojuro:

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Its too late for me to give you Adele but here's Robert.
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Thanks a lot for those.

That leaves only Garania, Gina, Liddy, Chizuru, Ada, Adele and Despara.

7 to go.
 
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