(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Sashas]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Also I wouldn't further level up the 2 Julians, they might help you now but it's going to be wasted exp. If you have no other reliable soldier get 1 CC and then cannibalize the other with 3 gold fairies for a massive exp boost (again wait for lvl 40+ to minimize costs).

I'm fairly sure its one Julian with the whole line being posted twice, however he said he had CR Julian already, so he's lost out on the skill up. Still a CR Julian easily beats a Maxcost Katie since soldiers are all about Unit points and unit point skills.

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I'm fairly sure its one Julian with the whole line being posted twice, however he said he had CR Julian already, so he's lost out on the skill up. Still a CR Julian easily beats a Maxcost Katie since soldiers are all about Unit points and unit point skills.

Ehh, Katie has her uses over Julian. My Julian costs 1 less than Katie and his skill is 2/5 over Katie's 1/5, but I still find myself deploying Katie far more often than Julian. She's simply got decent enough defense she can do without babysitting for a while. Julian takes damage in chunks.

 

[khawk016]

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Ehh, Katie has her uses over Julian. My Julian costs 1 less than Katie and his skill is 2/5 over Katie's 1/5, but I still find myself deploying Katie far more often than Julian. She's simply got decent enough defense she can do without babysitting for a while. Julian takes damage in chunks.

I'm fairly sure its one Julian with the whole line being posted twice, however he said he had CR Julian already, so he's lost out on the skill up. Still a CR Julian easily beats a Maxcost Katie since soldiers are all about Unit points and unit point skills.

julian just cant be compared to katie even at max cost shes a far better option in my opinion heres their max stats that should show why i think this also her aw abiility is far superior im gonna put aria down aswell since shes a atk type like julian but she does a far better job then julian even still

julian at max stats is 2119 hp 431 atk and 254 def
katie at max stats is 1939 hp 359 atk and 376 def
aria at max stats is 1888 hp 503 atk and 293 def

 

[Sashas]

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Ehh, Katie has her uses over Julian. My Julian costs 1 less than Katie and his skill is 2/5 over Katie's 1/5, but I still find myself deploying Katie far more often than Julian. She's simply got decent enough defense she can do without babysitting for a while. Julian takes damage in chunks.

I have them both there too at 50CC60, I use Julian a lot more though and thats with Aria and Jerome AW (along with 2 silver soldiers). Soldiers are great for spirit rush, though I can only use 2 on the G map, X and H used 3 and Julian was noticably better than Katie there. Theres been only twice now I can remember where Aria was too weak to survive and Jerome wasn't an option, Julian however did the job well and helped out more than Katie could with the UP.
The point is all 3 gold soldiers can survive 99% of stuff if you use them properly. Aria survives by killing things fast so gets hit less, Katie has the defence and Julian has Health and ok attack, the thing is health beats defence in survivability.

julian just cant be compared to katie even at max cost shes a far better option in my opinion heres their max stats that should show why i think this also her aw abiility is far superior im gonna put aria down aswell since shes a atk type like julian but she does a far better job then julian even still

julian at max stats is 2119 hp 431 atk and 254 def
katie at max stats is 1939 hp 359 atk and 376 def
aria at max stats is 1888 hp 503 atk and 293 def

You're missing out on their AW abilitys there, Julian has a 20% chance to do 50% more damage, Katie gives 2% defence and Aria 2% attack. That Aria should be at 260 defense and Katie at 331 defense +2% defense (6.62) puts her at 337.

You use defence far less than you do attack and at 2% defense its a tiny boost for most units. I'd say Julians AW ability could be useful more often than Katies could be.

 

[LeadSmasher]

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Oh for God's sake, because of her title "Pitch Black" Sniper Rita, I mistook her for a Black unit and fed her 3 black fairies and a Platinum armour.
Why didn't I take a better look at frame colour of her portrait? Ugh.

I guess I'll just level her up to 50 the long way. Well, there's no rush as I've no Silver Archers to CC her with anyway.

 

[Sashas]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Oh for God's sake, because of her title "Pitch Black" Sniper Rita, I mistook her for a Black unit and fed her 3 black fairies and a Platinum armour.
Why didn't I take a better look at frame colour of her portrait? Ugh.

I guess I'll just level her up to 50 the long way. Well, there's no rush as I've no Silver Archers to CC her with anyway.

Ouch, you're right though, theres no rush for leveling her. I used her to great effect in thursdays G daily at just 50CC67 but other than that there aren't many uses for her

 

[LeadSmasher]

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Hell, I can't even CC her right now.

Actually on the subject of levelling, I read Lafate's guide earlier, and am I right in thinking that if you want units for levelling your troops, the best mission to sortie is Return to Ruins?
I'd gone by Dragon Hunting all this time, as I'd gotten the impression that it was supposed to be the best one, but maybe that was just because it was the best one for when you're away from the computer, back before the Commission Sortie Option was implemented.

 

[Rawr1125]

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Hell, I can't even CC her right now.

Actually on the subject of levelling, I read Lafate's guide earlier, and am I right in thinking that if you want units for levelling your troops, the best mission to sortie is Return to Ruins?
I'd gone by Dragon Hunting all this time, as I'd gotten the impression that it was supposed to be the best one, but maybe that was just because it was the best one for when you're away from the computer, back before the Commission Sortie Option was implemented.

It's a matter of what maps you actually have clear. Desert maps have better units to combine since they have the bronze soldier than give xp bonus to everyone.

When sortie came out before we got desert maps, I think people switched to immortal beast for level up fodder, unless you were trying to get a specific unit type from one of the other higher levels.

 

[akoss]

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Hell, I can't even CC her right now.

Actually on the subject of levelling, I read Lafate's guide earlier, and am I right in thinking that if you want units for levelling your troops, the best mission to sortie is Return to Ruins?
I'd gone by Dragon Hunting all this time, as I'd gotten the impression that it was supposed to be the best one, but maybe that was just because it was the best one for when you're away from the computer, back before the Commission Sortie Option was implemented.

Get to Fiery Oasis, a 30 charisma desert map, and farm that. As Rawr said, it has units that give bonus exp for every class; but it also has 4 bronze units, 6 units total. The 40 charisma desert map is nice too, it has level 20 units and takes less time to drain charisma.

 

[Tesseract]

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It depends on what units you want to level too. Archer fodder = bonus xp for archer girls. Gold and prince exp are also pretty important factors to consider. Extra gold = more 2k gacha rerolls = more silvers. More prince exp = level ups = refills = more map runs = more unit exp/gold/prince exp. Certain maps that drop higher level fodder units might not give quite as much xp per cha, but cost less gold per unit xp to level up (i.e. 8x level 14 fodder units cost twice the amount of gold to feed as 4x lvl 20 fodder units for significantly less unit xp). Also depends on how far into story mode you are currently able to get. There's not really an easy answer, but you mostly can't go wrong if you at least stick to a few of the most efficient maps. Which are named in any of those lists/guides at the top of the thread. As other people have stated - if you can make it to Fiery Oasis, thats currently one of the best overall maps. But that will take new players quite a while to get to that stage.

 

[dartred]

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this is the highest i have completed

Spoiler

what makes return to ruins better then the tower overwatch that i have 3* completion drop? tower overwatch has better exp ratio and higher unit drop level iirc doesn't it?

 

[The Overgoat]

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this is the highest i have completed

Spoiler

what makes return to ruins better then the tower overwatch that i have 3* completion drop? tower overwatch has better exp ratio and higher unit drop level iirc doesn't it?

The unit XP / charisma ratio. RtR has lower units, but it's also cheaper to run. Before the desert maps it gives the best unit XP / charisma ratio (unless you are looking for archer level ups, then dragon hunt is your deal). However the price of this is that you have to combine a higher number of lower level units for that, so RtR is not kind to your gold stash.

 

[Tesseract]

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this is the highest i have completed

Spoiler

what makes return to ruins better then the tower overwatch that i have 3* completion drop? tower overwatch has better exp ratio and higher unit drop level iirc doesn't it?

Return to Ruins has 24.13 generic unit xp per cha, level 14 drops. Tower Overwatch has 21.20 generic xp/cha, lvl 13 drops. Tower overwatch is only slightly better overall if you are leveling a Heavy.

Pre-Immortal Beast, RtR is one of the better overall maps. It will definitely level most your units the fastest, but it has low gold and slightly lower prince xp than other high-tier maps.

 

[dartred]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

using a calculator, i found that the ratio is better for exp in tower overwatch, UNLESS i'm doing it backwards. the higher the number, the better it is right?

tower overwatch: 394 exp /by 25 charisma gave me 15.76.

return to ruins: 350 exp /by 23 charisma gave me 15.23

exp is higher because i have 1.2 exp running.

 

[Tesseract]

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using a calculator, i found that the ratio is better for exp in tower overwatch, UNLESS i'm doing it backwards. the higher the number, the better it is right?

tower overwatch: 394 exp /by 25 charisma gave me 15.76.

return to ruins: 350 exp /by 23 charisma gave me 15.23

exp is higher because i have 1.2 exp running.

You're probably mixing your stats up. There is unit exp, and prince/account exp. Tower Overwatch has better prince exp (13.16 x 1.2boost = 15.76 xp per cha), but not enough of a difference to overcome the gain you get from unit xp from return to ruins (24.13 vs tower's 21.40).

 

[dartred]

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oh, prince exp IS what i was talking about lol. though if you say the unit exp is that good, i think ill go back and 3* return to ruins. i need to cc if i want a chance at later events.

 

[Tesseract]

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oh, prince exp IS what i was talking about lol. though if you say the unit exp is that good, i think ill go back and 3* return to ruins. i need to cc if i want a chance at later events.

Yes. RtR = best unit xp for you right now until you can do the desert missions.
Deep Forest Road if you are low on gold. Especially if you are using gold boost. Sell the units.
Pastoral gate if you have extra charisma to burn/waste before leveling up. Sell the units or... also very good unit xp for leveling only archers and soldiers, but will burn your gold up fast if you use those units to level instead of selling.

 

[Ericridge]

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Nor does Aigis actually. You can clear 5 % of the maps with Bronze and Iron units, tops. More likely less. Even with silver units, who are way, way stronger, even some crazy people can't complete everything
This game is hard, but manageable when you are patient. Don't make it even harder for yourself than the craziest people

Edit: Well, maybe that did sound a little harsher than I intended. I just remember dropping the game for a short while, because the difficulty spikes made farming necessary and without events (that was before Belinda, the first event) there was nothing that motivated me to grind. Therefore I just wanted to keep you from dropping a great game, just because you make it even harder for yourself. But obviously you can do whatever you like best. Neither have I the intention nor the right to tell you what to do

I don't really expect my generics to go very far in this game because its' not a single player rpg but p2w game. But its not everyday a game has generics for me to play. Its literally the only reason why I decided to play. I'll level the characters up but, they're secondary priority for me. Unless gacha decides to give me a girl I like.

 

[kleem]

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I don't really expect my generics to go very far in this game because its' not a single player rpg but p2w game. But its not everyday a game has generics for me to play. Its literally the only reason why I decided to play. I'll level the characters up but, they're secondary priority for me. Unless gacha decides to give me a girl I like.

I havn't spent a single cent and I doing just fine O-o.Sure I havn't gotten any blacks from PS,but I doing just fine and perfecting events.Though I have been playing for around a year and a half.

 

[nty_creations]

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Same here. I've been diligently grinding for about a month(?) and the rewards for the story and side missions have given me a big army of silver and gold units. As soranokira suggested I consider silver and bronze units generics as well since the game just throws them at you for map collection rewards and 3 star bonus on the lessons and drills (as well as the two free gold units!). Between mission rewards and (un)lucky free gachas I've got duplicates of most silvers, 6 copies of calliope, and 4 copies of elaine... Aigis is really friendly for a f2p game.