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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I don't know for sure, but I imagine so as her stats does reflect her being an Elf. Probably as long as the unit is in a certain category it doesn't matter what their name is, they'll get whatever benefits that affect them. Like certain girls with "Princess" in their name, but they're not actually a Princess unit. So even though lore wise she's a half-elf the game still treats her as a full one.
 
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razisgosu said:
Yeah and garbage is not the same as worthless. Like I said, please point out where I said she is completely and positively worthless. Like I said, I'll wait. You're only showing how much of an ignorant troll you can be by insulting me and ignoring facts.

Here are the facts, she's too expensive to deploy at max cost when in most cases healers need to be deployed early. Yeah she's got some nice raw attack, but on most content on Nutaku that is only going into overhealing, it's for the most part overkill and unnecessary.
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Now that's funny
Garbage is absolutely no use , ex Gold Armor
You get 6K gold after all , so that is kind of his purpose
While worthless is still has it use even if it is a little

If You can survive the map with Alyssa , which is lesser attack than Liana
Than that statement of garbage is wrong

Sure the UP is bigger , but she too have 900 HP instaheal for everyone deployed on the map
Which Alyssa don't have

Garbage eh?
If You can't use a unit doesn't mean that unit is garbage
Maybe You need to learn how to use their utility
 
Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Sorry wrong. Worthless literally means it has no worth. That is the very definition of the word. It is different than garbage which can have worth, hence the phrase one persons trash is another's treasure.

I am quite aware of how to use units properly. It seems you don't however since you insist on dropping a 24 cost healer when she's not needed. We should probably stop this pointless conversation since all you want to do is mock and personal attack and not actually provide reasons why dropping a healer who costs a solid 5-6 UP more than gold healers is worth prioritizing.
 
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razisgosu said:
Sorry wrong. Worthless literally means it has no worth. That is the very definition of the word. It is different than garbage which can have worth, hence the phrase one persons trash is another's treasure.

I am quite aware of how to use units properly. It seems you don't however since you insist on dropping a 24 cost healer when she's not needed. We should probably stop this pointless conversation since all you want to do is mock and personal attack and not actually provide reasons why dropping a healer who costs a solid 5-6 UP more than gold healers is worth prioritizing.
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You might want to look up the meaning of garbage, the word worthless is used to describe garbage in almost every case.
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Switching the subject to saying the gold healers are better to priotize is not defending how you called her garbage, If people can need her then she is the opposite of garbage. Liana can be very useful in places, specially for people who only have the gold healers, 3 healers needed is fairly common and Alissa can't always keep up, it depends on what tanks/duelists you are using.

As for one mans trash is anothers treasure, all you need to say is that you personally don't need her, but she is a useful unit, nowhere near as useful as black iris would have been, but still very useable if you've got the UP to get her out.

You don't need to go to such extremes when discussing units, almost all have good points and bad points, it all depends on what other units you use.
 
Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So , garbage is not a rude word?
WoW , I learn something new today~

I wouldn't mind if You put it in a more better word that Black Iris is better
And I admit that too , she is like everyone said. Is the True Black Healer and a Gatcha unit too!!

Just so You know , I too still use G.Iris and Fedora
I don't have anything against using them
And Liana is expensive yes

But I won't take that Garbage word
While You said she can still have some use
lol , very funny~
 
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You guys are still responding to Larcx and dragging down the thread with him when he's clearly too immature for this conversation.
 
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Eab1990 said:
You guys are still responding to Larcx and dragging down the thread with him when he's clearly too immature for this conversation.
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Try actually reading his last post, your post seems more immature than his last post, give people a chance to improve and credit where its due. Don't just write him off because of his past.
 
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Eab1990 said:
You guys are still responding to Larcx and dragging down the thread with him when he's clearly too immature for this conversation.
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I might be~
But not as far as a certain jerk , coming out of nowhere spouting garbage...
Claiming more mature , lol

I have My reason~
 
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Sashas said:
Try actually reading his last post, your post seems more immature than his last post, give people a chance to improve and credit where its due. Don't just write him off because of his past.
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People have written him off not just because of his past, but because of his past and the fact that he continues to act the same way the vast majority of the time.

That said, can we PLEASE just drop this subject? It's gone on long enough and all it's doing at this point is dragging the thread down into the Abyss.
 
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Sashas said:
Try actually reading his last post, your post seems more immature than his last post, give people a chance to improve and credit where its due. Don't just write him off because of his past.
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Considering his last reply to me was a hilariously poor attempt at bait, I have even less reason to pay attention to him than I already cared to give, especially with his terrible grammar.
 
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Eab1990 said:
Considering his last reply to me was a hilariously poor attempt at bait, I have even less reason to pay attention to him than I already cared to give, especially with his terrible grammar.
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Yep I have terrible grammar
I'm not good at english
But I am not popping out of nowhere shitting anyone waifus

Now I'm gonna make this simple for You
How do You feel when people calling out Your waifu as garbage?
If you like it , expect Me to call Your waifu too as garbage from now on~

If you do hate it , then stop popping out from nowhere to shitpost
And tell You what , I'll even take back My previous statement~

Think carefully~
 
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I gave my justification as to why Liana is garbage 50 posts ago, to which you responded with immature and inaccurate bait.

I don't care who your waifu is *coughunlesstheyhaveglassesthenIautomaticallyhateyoucough*, but throwing temper tantrums because you can't accept that your waifu has glaring faults, especially on our version, reflects poorly on your part.
 
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Eab1990 said:
I gave my justification as to why Liana is garbage 50 posts ago, to which you responded with immature and inaccurate bait.

I don't care who your waifu is *coughunlesstheyhaveglassesthenIautomaticallyhateyoucough*, but throwing temper tantrums because you can't accept that your waifu has glaring faults, especially on our version, reflects poorly on your part.
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I'm surprise You keep saying that
Despite I already said that Liana cost is expensive , and is indeed lose to Black Iris
And indeed lose to some Gold and Platinum rarity when their skill active

While My whole problem is about garbage
And You dodge My question~

Be a Man and answer My question~
 
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If you actually read the post in question, I specifically said I cleared paralysis maps without using her.

If the ONE thing Liana has going for her is rendered moot by my plat healers and ranged support overpowering paralysis maps, then what else do you call that unit?
 
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Would you two PLEASE drop this conversation? Or at least take it to private messages?

At this point, it's become a circular argument and all it's going to do is completely destroy anyone's desire to read this thread.
 
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Eab1990 said:
If you actually read the post in question, I specifically said I cleared paralysis maps without using her.

If the ONE thing Liana has going for her is rendered moot by my plat healers and ranged support overpowering paralysis maps, then what else do you call that unit?
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While like other state , You did not need it doesn't mean it is a garbage

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If people can need her then she is the opposite of garbage

Read the link above of what garbage meaning
If You still find the unit worth sometime than it is only less usefull
Did You still not understand the difference?

So You like to brand other unit as garbage? Fine~
Then don't blame Me to imitate what You did
And don't complaint~
 
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Larcx said:
While like other state , You did not need it doesn't mean it is a garbage

Code: 
If people can need her then she is the opposite of garbage

Read the link above of what garbage meaning
If You still find the unit worth sometime than it is only less usefull
Did You still not understand the difference?

So You like to brand other unit as garbage? Fine~
Then don't blame Me to imitate what You did
And don't complaint~
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And you literally can't read what I said.

Eab1990 said:
Liana IS garbage if you have a plat healer.
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Although I suppose I should amend that with "plat healer AND good ranged support." But the point still stands. Nutaku Liana is easily replaceable for being a black, therefore garbage for most setups.

taikishi said:
Would you two PLEASE drop this conversation? Or at least take it to private messages?

At this point, it's become a circular argument and all it's going to do is completely destroy anyone's desire to read this thread.
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I'm only replying now to disprove Sashas. Larcx' apparent lack of reading comprehension is really telling, after all.
 
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Orion said:
I don't know for sure, but I imagine so as her stats does reflect her being an Elf. Probably as long as the unit is in a certain category it doesn't matter what their name is, they'll get whatever benefits that affect them. Like certain girls with "Princess" in their name, but they're not actually a Princess unit. So even though lore wise she's a half-elf the game still treats her as a full one.
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Yes, she buffs Yuyu. Yuyu is the only half-elf in the game though, even on DMM. Also, though, Olivie boosts dwarves.

My main gripe with Olivie is how inconsistent the developers are with tagging units as elves or dwarves. As we all know, the number one thing that describes an elf, and even some dwarves, is long pointy ears. There are some units who look elvish or dwarvish, but the devs haven't made any connection with them; this irks me.
 
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Eab1990 said:
And you literally can't read what I said.



Although I suppose I should amend that with "plat healer AND good ranged support." But the point still stands. Nutaku Liana is easily replaceable for being a black, therefore garbage for most setups.



I'm only replying now to disprove Sashas. Larcx' apparent lack of reading comprehension is really telling, after all.
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So You said anyone can have Chydiss , while it's not
Atleast not until TP is rotate
And the same I can say to anyone who did not own Liana

So You compare Liana that supposedly an Event unit with Premium Gatcha , fine

Than I will compare that some Premium with Premium , hope You are cool with it
Lilia is inferior to Sherry~
Since everyone have atleast decent Gold from GR , that if they experience the Event though~

So should I say Lilia is garbage compare to Sherry?

Now , I am not dragging Sasha into this
If all else I should apologize to him
That's why I am using a code without quoting anyone

It's between You and Me , don't drag anyone~

If you can prove Liana has 0 utility
And would be better to discharge , then yes. She is a garbage~
 
Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

*cracks knuckles*

Since you two won't stop this, I will. With math:

Comparison of all healers in the DMM version of the game


Information will assume the following:
* Max level - CC55 for silvers, AW for gold+
* Four criteria - sustained healing, burst healing pre-SAW at 1/5 (or 1/10) skill, burst healing pre-SAW at 5/5 (or 10/10), burst healing post-SAW
* This will compare all possible healers - Healers, Shamans, Dragon Shamans, Feng Shui, etc.
* Information is unbuffed but max affection because I don't feel like doing math all day.

Posts coming, but it's going to take some time....
 
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