(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)
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Well there are some fantasy universes where elves and dwarves are related.
Aren't Orcs related to elves in the Elder Scrolls Universe?
Neverthereless, that's kinda sad to hear.
Right now if I would AW Olivie she would cost 20, my Spica 13, and I could throw out my AW-Yuyu for 12, which would be awesome. But that's already it for all elves I have. Real bummer that there aren't really any new elves coming :/
Well maybe I could integrate Gustav into my team
Well there are some fantasy universes where elves and dwarves are related.
Aren't Orcs related to elves in the Elder Scrolls Universe?
Neverthereless, that's kinda sad to hear.
Right now if I would AW Olivie she would cost 20, my Spica 13, and I could throw out my AW-Yuyu for 12, which would be awesome. But that's already it for all elves I have. Real bummer that there aren't really any new elves coming :/
Well maybe I could integrate Gustav into my team
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That's sort of interesting Yuyu's the only half-elf, guess they just wanted to make one half-breed elf or focus on other stuff. Wait, dwarves too? That means it affects that Gold Bishop....that we don't have. Well, here's hoping to getting her since Nutaku is taking over. I guess for now there's Gustav, but that's about it. :V
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Take this, you need it.
Take this, you need it.
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Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)
Considering he's still openly mocking me in his last post and has yet to apologize for attacking me I will most definitely continue writing him off until he apologizes.
Fine she's not garbage just pretty crap. Are you fucking happy now? Well you stop being a child and attacking users? Holy shit get the fuck over it. Nobody should be throwing a temper tantrum because someone called a fictional character in a video game bad.
Considering he's still openly mocking me in his last post and has yet to apologize for attacking me I will most definitely continue writing him off until he apologizes.
Fine she's not garbage just pretty crap. Are you fucking happy now? Well you stop being a child and attacking users? Holy shit get the fuck over it. Nobody should be throwing a temper tantrum because someone called a fictional character in a video game bad.
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Funny , You state the garbage unit first~
Fine , sorry for saying You garbage
Feel free to adress Me garbage for as many time I said it to You
But is still isn't over as You are saying crap~
You have to prove to Me if she have 0 utility and why You call it garbage before!!
Funny , You state the garbage unit first~
Fine , sorry for saying You garbage
Feel free to adress Me garbage for as many time I said it to You
But is still isn't over as You are saying crap~
You have to prove to Me if she have 0 utility and why You call it garbage before!!
Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)
I have already said everything I have to say about Liana. I never said she had zero utility. I said her uses include cleansing and range. Cleansing which is useless on 90% of maps since they don't have ailments and range that requires rainbow fairies to max as opposed to Fedora who can much more easily skill up her range.
That has literally been my entire point this whole time, everything she does can be done equally well by most other healers except the cleansing part which isn't applicable most of the time. As such she's not worth deploying with priority.
I have already said everything I have to say about Liana. I never said she had zero utility. I said her uses include cleansing and range. Cleansing which is useless on 90% of maps since they don't have ailments and range that requires rainbow fairies to max as opposed to Fedora who can much more easily skill up her range.
That has literally been my entire point this whole time, everything she does can be done equally well by most other healers except the cleansing part which isn't applicable most of the time. As such she's not worth deploying with priority.
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U said garbage
Garbage = no use
If You wanna said that , try use some other people words
Less usefull , and not a crap
You said You are not rude? Really?
Can You not find a less harmfull word?
Although I admit I did used it to you too , but You started it first~
U said garbage
Garbage = no use
If You wanna said that , try use some other people words
Less usefull , and not a crap
You said You are not rude? Really?
Can You not find a less harmfull word?
Although I admit I did used it to you too , but You started it first~
Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)
Yes. In fact, orcs *are* elves. All the elves have a -mer suffix on the technical name for their race. Wood elves are bosmer, high elves are altmer, and night elves are dunmer. And orcs are orsimer. Also fun fact, orcs are the only race in the Elder Scrolls series without a home country.
To both of you:
First, Olivie's abilities will change. Eventually she will get a preAW ability like all blacks should that just gives the -1 cost to the appropriate units. Her AW ability will eventually change from +5 MR to +15% max HP.
Only dwarves are Gustav, Dorothy, Noel, and Raichi. While the selection is limited, Raichi is the best unit in the game. Olivie just boosting a potential Raichi is good enough. <3
Elves do occasionally get additional units. They recently released super OP platinum Ranger Supura who is a bona fide elf.
My gripes come from three units. Ristis, a gacha platinum Avenger whose skill allows her to go ranged, is technically a half-elf, half-demon, but doesn't get boosted. Nadia, a platinum Dragon Rider, has pointy ears and the body build that just screams dwarf, but doesn't get boosted. And Pupuru, a platinum Druid, is an elf and gets boosted, but looks more dwarfish.
Well there are some fantasy universes where elves and dwarves are related.
Aren't Orcs related to elves in the Elder Scrolls Universe?
Neverthereless, that's kinda sad to hear.
Right now if I would AW Olivie she would cost 20, my Spica 13, and I could throw out my AW-Yuyu for 12, which would be awesome. But that's already it for all elves I have. Real bummer that there aren't really any new elves coming :/
Well maybe I could integrate Gustav into my team
Yes. In fact, orcs *are* elves. All the elves have a -mer suffix on the technical name for their race. Wood elves are bosmer, high elves are altmer, and night elves are dunmer. And orcs are orsimer. Also fun fact, orcs are the only race in the Elder Scrolls series without a home country.
To both of you:
First, Olivie's abilities will change. Eventually she will get a preAW ability like all blacks should that just gives the -1 cost to the appropriate units. Her AW ability will eventually change from +5 MR to +15% max HP.
Only dwarves are Gustav, Dorothy, Noel, and Raichi. While the selection is limited, Raichi is the best unit in the game. Olivie just boosting a potential Raichi is good enough. <3
Elves do occasionally get additional units. They recently released super OP platinum Ranger Supura who is a bona fide elf.
My gripes come from three units. Ristis, a gacha platinum Avenger whose skill allows her to go ranged, is technically a half-elf, half-demon, but doesn't get boosted. Nadia, a platinum Dragon Rider, has pointy ears and the body build that just screams dwarf, but doesn't get boosted. And Pupuru, a platinum Druid, is an elf and gets boosted, but looks more dwarfish.
Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)
As I've already said multiple times, garbage does not equal useless and I've clarified that multiple times, I'm using the term to describe being bad and you're taking it to mean literal garbage and completely worthless which is NOT what I'm using the term as, or have you just been ignoring my posts doing just that? I've also used other words to describe her as you can clearly see in posts above.
Calling a unit a name is not rude. Calling a person a name is rude. The fact you can't understand that you started this by attacking users is astounding.
As I've already said multiple times, garbage does not equal useless and I've clarified that multiple times, I'm using the term to describe being bad and you're taking it to mean literal garbage and completely worthless which is NOT what I'm using the term as, or have you just been ignoring my posts doing just that? I've also used other words to describe her as you can clearly see in posts above.
Calling a unit a name is not rude. Calling a person a name is rude. The fact you can't understand that you started this by attacking users is astounding.
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I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this, but I still find it amusing that the way you teach your ladies to fight better is cram enough men into them.
I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this, but I still find it amusing that the way you teach your ladies to fight better is cram enough men into them.
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It gets even funnier if you think about other games that do the same thing,
like... Love Live School Idol
So you want to be a better singer? Just consume 9 other parallel universe versions of yourself!
I always imagined they perform some kind of wicked blood ritual where the Leveling Unit devours flesh and soul of whoever gets "donated" or "chosen" to be sacrificed.
Huh... thinking about it, it's exactly like in the movie "The One" Just that you don't have to kill parallel universe versions of yourself, but ANYTHING to get stronger.
It gets even funnier if you think about other games that do the same thing,
like... Love Live School Idol
So you want to be a better singer? Just consume 9 other parallel universe versions of yourself!
I always imagined they perform some kind of wicked blood ritual where the Leveling Unit devours flesh and soul of whoever gets "donated" or "chosen" to be sacrificed.
Huh... thinking about it, it's exactly like in the movie "The One" Just that you don't have to kill parallel universe versions of yourself, but ANYTHING to get stronger.
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Look at this face and tell me it didn't hunger for the flesh of the living.
Look at this face and tell me it didn't hunger for the flesh of the living.
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I use to play this game. Until my save got deleted. It is saved on the phone and changed phones to get a better service.
It gets even funnier if you think about other games that do the same thing,
like... Love Live School Idol
So you want to be a better singer? Just consume 9 other parallel universe versions of yourself!
I always imagined they perform some kind of wicked blood ritual where the Leveling Unit devours flesh and soul of whoever gets "donated" or "chosen" to be sacrificed.
Huh... thinking about it, it's exactly like in the movie "The One" Just that you don't have to kill parallel universe versions of yourself, but ANYTHING to get stronger.
I use to play this game. Until my save got deleted. It is saved on the phone and changed phones to get a better service.
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So, seeing as how we got a heads up...how's Memento as a unit? I looked her up and saw some videos showcasing her and seems like she get's more tokens than Mikoto, but they're far weaker, which makes sense of course as Necromancer's skeleton's strength comes from their numbers than brute force. Judging by google translate I think her skill gives a buff to her tokens, also makes sense. Her attack is the same as what the Liches use, which is a given since she's the Lich King's daughter, but I thought it was kinda neat. Her HP pool is pretty bad though and her DEF is lolz, but again makes sense since a Necromancer doesn't usually fight on the front lines.
Looking forward to having a Necromancer unit anyway whether she's good or bad, as I loved playing that class, though to be honest I only played as it once on Diablo II: Lord of Destruction, still it was my favorite class next to the Druid.
So, seeing as how we got a heads up...how's Memento as a unit? I looked her up and saw some videos showcasing her and seems like she get's more tokens than Mikoto, but they're far weaker, which makes sense of course as Necromancer's skeleton's strength comes from their numbers than brute force. Judging by google translate I think her skill gives a buff to her tokens, also makes sense. Her attack is the same as what the Liches use, which is a given since she's the Lich King's daughter, but I thought it was kinda neat. Her HP pool is pretty bad though and her DEF is lolz, but again makes sense since a Necromancer doesn't usually fight on the front lines.
Looking forward to having a Necromancer unit anyway whether she's good or bad, as I loved playing that class, though to be honest I only played as it once on Diablo II: Lord of Destruction, still it was my favorite class next to the Druid.
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You could just not call her garbage. That's an option.
Instead you are backpedaling and trying to say that garbage means something else to you, and not what its actual definition is. Cool, I guess, but the point of communication is usually to communicate. It works better when you use words that mean what they mean.
You're nowhere near the first or last person to use hyperbole to describe something's usefulness, but your assessment is just flat out wrong. I could, for instance, call Charlotte a garbage unit compared to Horace and I feel that would be pretty accurate. The number of times Charlotte is more useful than Horace is incredibly low; they perform pretty much the exact same task, and even in a situation where you want a magic fencer you'll almost never want or need 2.
Liana on the other hand has a far more general role. I can use her on many maps. I can't use her on every map, her UP just won't allow it. But she is worthwhile I feel to level, CC, (though be warned she somehow doesn't benefit as much from AW as other healers) etc., and as I previously mentioned can outright replace 2 silvers in most scenarios where you start needing that many (about 3-4 healers, which isn't uncommon).
She also has a greater value to those who like fire-and-forget healers. I like Fedora and use her first basically every time I can because I value higher base healing more than high spike healing. Burst I feel is much more important to damaging units than healing units, though there are some very rare few situations where you might need burst healing. I find those situations are just as easily resolved by bringing stronger base healing - aka Liana.
I don't think your terminology is particularly hateful, I can value someone expressing a unit as 'garbage' in meaning that they are not worth investing resources in. We already have several like that. Azami the platinum ninja comes to mind -- if you have Saki, you don't really need to invest in Azami, and Saki's not hard to get. I just think the advice "Liana is garbage" and/or "Liana is a wasted black roll" is flat out wrong, because I use her (50cc80), and I have not ever found that to be the case.
You could just not call her garbage. That's an option.
Instead you are backpedaling and trying to say that garbage means something else to you, and not what its actual definition is. Cool, I guess, but the point of communication is usually to communicate. It works better when you use words that mean what they mean.
You're nowhere near the first or last person to use hyperbole to describe something's usefulness, but your assessment is just flat out wrong. I could, for instance, call Charlotte a garbage unit compared to Horace and I feel that would be pretty accurate. The number of times Charlotte is more useful than Horace is incredibly low; they perform pretty much the exact same task, and even in a situation where you want a magic fencer you'll almost never want or need 2.
Liana on the other hand has a far more general role. I can use her on many maps. I can't use her on every map, her UP just won't allow it. But she is worthwhile I feel to level, CC, (though be warned she somehow doesn't benefit as much from AW as other healers) etc., and as I previously mentioned can outright replace 2 silvers in most scenarios where you start needing that many (about 3-4 healers, which isn't uncommon).
She also has a greater value to those who like fire-and-forget healers. I like Fedora and use her first basically every time I can because I value higher base healing more than high spike healing. Burst I feel is much more important to damaging units than healing units, though there are some very rare few situations where you might need burst healing. I find those situations are just as easily resolved by bringing stronger base healing - aka Liana.
I don't think your terminology is particularly hateful, I can value someone expressing a unit as 'garbage' in meaning that they are not worth investing resources in. We already have several like that. Azami the platinum ninja comes to mind -- if you have Saki, you don't really need to invest in Azami, and Saki's not hard to get. I just think the advice "Liana is garbage" and/or "Liana is a wasted black roll" is flat out wrong, because I use her (50cc80), and I have not ever found that to be the case.
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I don't know how useful she will be exactly, but that should give you a better idea than google translate. If you don't have Mikoto on your team, there are definitely maps where tokens are useful. The Eastern maps come immediately to mind. As for future events and stuff? I dunno.
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I don't know how useful she will be exactly, but that should give you a better idea than google translate. If you don't have Mikoto on your team, there are definitely maps where tokens are useful. The Eastern maps come immediately to mind. As for future events and stuff? I dunno.
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I was actually insinuating the fun way of cramming a bunch of guys into the girl, but if you want her to eat them instead more power to you.
I was actually insinuating the fun way of cramming a bunch of guys into the girl, but if you want her to eat them instead more power to you.
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Sigh I really don't wanna start an arguement,or even continue with this one.
Charlotte is kinda better than horace till awakening skill,because her double atk does come out quite often,but her awakening skill just isn't good where Horace's adds somthing.
Thats all I wanna say,and I'm not gonna mention anythign else on this subject again.
Sigh I really don't wanna start an arguement,or even continue with this one.
Charlotte is kinda better than horace till awakening skill,because her double atk does come out quite often,but her awakening skill just isn't good where Horace's adds somthing.
Thats all I wanna say,and I'm not gonna mention anythign else on this subject again.
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Yeah, I pointed out how having her for her tokens against the Tengus would be kinda nice if people are still having a hard time with them. Of course they could use a Iron/Bronze Soldier or whatever, but tokens are always safer to use since they don't count.
Y'know, I should have checked the ENG wiki, but I didn't think that they'd have it up so early, but I shouldn't be surprised. Seems like Google translate was right on her skill buffing the tokens at least.
Yeah, I pointed out how having her for her tokens against the Tengus would be kinda nice if people are still having a hard time with them. Of course they could use a Iron/Bronze Soldier or whatever, but tokens are always safer to use since they don't count.