(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Fayne]

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Dear lord how did you get so many!

We have so many breaks that our units are overleveled a lot anyways. Therefore you can save your tin cans for levels 60+. Furthermore, the less money you spend on gacha, the less individual units and most importantly black units you have. That way a lot of those tin buddies pile up over time. I, for example, am down to 16 tin cans atm, which is the lowest amount I had for about a year. That's only because I just recently leveled up Karma and Solano up to AW max and spent 22 tin cans (13+9). (BTW, the only reason I leveled Karma to max was my barracks being filled up with black faries I can't use otherwise [Saki wasn't worth it for me and Anya is waiting for Happy]. Right now I'm keeping about 20 in the barracks and the rest I'm using an plat units with Hashim)

 

[Sashas]

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Sooo much to do. Yay? Yeah, probably yay.

As for Beatrice... Yes, Beatrice is absolutely great (... And, quite frequently, makes up for the fact that I have no other well leveled Heavy Armor except a min costed Maribel who, depending on the day, is really good, or really bad, at her job. This may be because Katie has almost as much defense as she does for 6 points cheaper. Maybe. Though she still has the HP. And that skill...

Like, she's good general use, but I've found that when a map really requires prolonged "take all of these physical hits" she's... Not the best. Oh well, hopefully that 15% "Nope, not going to take that, thanks" chance will let her preform her... Standard job along with her pseudo assassination/heavy swarm killing work.

Though really my second heavy tank character is Anya =P Though she's a bit expensive for filling the job in a number of maps.

I feel you're mixing up names here, Beatrice is a plat event pirate, Bernice is the solid heavy armour,

 

[xaxs]

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We have so many breaks that our units are overleveled a lot anyways. Therefore you can save your tin cans for levels 60+. Furthermore, the less money you spend on gacha, the less individual units and most importantly black units you have. That way a lot of those tin buddies pile up over time. I, for example, am down to 16 tin cans atm, which is the lowest amount I had for about a year. That's only because I just recently leveled up Karma and Solano up to AW max and spent 22 tin cans (13+9). (BTW, the only reason I leveled Karma to max was my barracks being filled up with black faries I can't use otherwise [Saki wasn't worth it for me and Anya is waiting for Happy]. Right now I'm keeping about 20 in the barracks and the rest I'm using an plat units with Hashim)

Sometimes I think I just don't know how to play this game xD Hoping I'll get that one tin can for Olivie and AW her.

 

[kleem]

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I.....Really did not want the end of the black knights before the first with them............The story might not be good but I do read it and find a bit of enjoyment out of it.

 

[Xion]

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Sometimes I think I just don't know how to play this game xD Hoping I'll get that one tin can for Olivie and AW her.

You and me both, i mean even in my luckiest day i can only get 2 or 3 tin cans, only on dmm i've been able to get that many and that with the 100% first drop :/
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This new event after a week of break makes me wonder if we'll go back to the event -> break -> event schedule, or if this is only a rare ocurrence.

PS: For those who want to know the story behind the "Threat of the Dark Knighthood". Petite Soeur did the translation some time ago.

 

[Lucifina]

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People are missing the most important thing here.
Elva is fucking hot.
Isn't that all we need really?

 

[xaxs]

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People are missing the most important thing here.
Elva is fucking hot.
Isn't that all we need really?

Someone wrote about that earlier that her AW pic is much worse than normal where she is reaaalllyy something. Same reason like with Karma to not AW.

 

[Fayne]

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You and me both, i mean even in my luckiest day i can only get 2 or 3 tin cans, only on dmm i've been able to get that many and that with the 100% first drop :/

Then you're pretty badlucky. With 3 runs of X and about 8 runs of H you should get 1.9 tin cans per week or if you don't mind getting less gold you could do 6 times G and get 2.5 tin cans on average per week. And of course there are several events that give them as completion rewards (typically one for G maps, two for total stars during star trials and about 3 for collection events) or drops (for example during Mementos event, when I farmed Daniela on the 5/50 map I got about ten tin cans in addition to the silvers; that was pretty good luck though). And at least I don't need to use two tin cans on average per week

 

[xaxs]

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Some blabbering, ignore if you're not totally bored.


Well I didn't mean only tin cans. However there were a lot of weeks when I didn't get even one. However about feeling of not being able to play game properly sometimes I meant resources generally. A lot of you often shows or mentions a lot of hoarded resources. Silvers, spirits, tin cans, gold etc. However I have never had a lot of any resources except silver valks which I had... well maybe around 10 at most. With gold I only had around 2kk at max long time ago. All other resources - always low. Silvers are quite understandable because I have very low space limit (being stingy on using SCs). Spirits similar, and I didn't bother much with black earlier.
There's also thing with units lvls. I have never had really high or close to max lvl units. I had maybe three units reaching max lvl just for having complete unit (not counting units getting max lvl to AW and CC). Usually higher lvl units are around 50lvl

End of blabbering.


So... tomorrow witch heaven starts?

 

[Orion]

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I have maxed out Yurina on DMM but never used her since end of last year, when I got Anya. Its hybrid class with good attack and good defence and good MR, but as with all hybrids, more specialized classes are better for whatever gimmick you are using them. If I need to block physical, its either AW Prince, Anya or Bernice. If I need to block magic, I have Gretel (30 MR), bunch of angels (25 MR), Jake (30 MR with SAW and Lise), Resia (25 MR, retreat on death).
And unlike Yurina, Erva doesn't have big MR either way, its only 10 and completely useless assasination AW ability. However, she has interesting SAW, being fastest unit in the game with 2 attacks per second. Maybe if there's some low def huge hp boss, you could find some usage for her.

Guess she's gonna sit out with Beatrice/Charlotte/Azami/Momiji then, least they won't be lonely. :V Works out for me anyway, since that just means I can still concentrate on the things I'm currently leveling.

That new UI makes the

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[Xion]

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Some blabbering, ignore if you're not totally bored.


Well I didn't mean only tin cans. However...
End of blabbering.

So... tomorrow witch heaven starts?

So you mean the managing resourses as a whole, i was at that point last year, i was spending every piece of gold on summon and didn't bother to max lvl any of my units, but then Karma came around and i realize just how much of a difference a high lvl team make in the important maps, after that i suddenly manage to pick up the pace i think that a sense of urgency was develop back then, of course all that didn't matter since i was barely able to AW my core team we the option arrive :/

All and all once you max lvl your core team lvling the rest of the niche units isn't that troublesome.
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Regarding the platmors i can't do the G map yet since i'm missing a good second defense so get trash after the a while and end up loosing stamina :/

 

[Melphy]

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I feel you're mixing up names here, Beatrice is a plat event pirate, Bernice is the solid heavy armour,

... Ack, guilty as charged, I did, in fact, do that...

To be, er... Fair? To Beatrice I actually do use her on occasion. Usually when trying to work with a strat that people would use 3 archers for, because... Well I don't really have a 3rd archer worth talking about. So... >_> Yeaahhh... (... Though come to think of it, I should probably level Rita one of these days...)

Actually, also: Horace VS Charlotte... I assume, even though Charlotte has higher attack, and noticeably higher attack, Horace having a better skill, and, er... Well the trade off of ASPD for a massive attack boost on awakening makes her the general favorite? (Also, I suppose, she does soak magic attacks better due to the larger HP pool) I mean, I'm not sure it matters to me too much since I've used a magic swordsman once or twice... Ever? But I was just curious, since I've gotten the impression people don't like Charlotte.

Also: Man, the hideous deals some of you must make with the RNG drive me nuts =P I'm lucky to get 1, er, tin can, as it were, a week, probably averaging about .6 at this point. Heck, I ended up burning off Spirits just to squeeze some decent XP out of Hashims, because trying to hang on to them was deeply impractical. And, er... I dunno, I could almost get a level out of 1 or 2 even when pushing 80? So that was something.

 

[Sashas]

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... Ack, guilty as charged, I did, in fact, do that...

To be, er... Fair? To Beatrice I actually do use her on occasion. Usually when trying to work with a strat that people would use 3 archers for, because... Well I don't really have a 3rd archer worth talking about. So... >_> Yeaahhh... (... Though come to think of it, I should probably level Rita one of these days...)

Actually, also: Horace VS Charlotte... I assume, even though Charlotte has higher attack, and noticeably higher attack, Horace having a better skill, and, er... Well the trade off of ASPD for a massive attack boost on awakening makes her the general favorite? (Also, I suppose, she does soak magic attacks better due to the larger HP pool) I mean, I'm not sure it matters to me too much since I've used a magic swordsman once or twice... Ever? But I was just curious, since I've gotten the impression people don't like Charlotte.

Using Beatrice as a third archer is fine, needs must and all that, just a shame about her skill which isn't a real problem if she's third archer. As for Horace vs Charlotte, Horace is better for bosses whereas Charlotte is better in general use, then theres the fact Horace was far easier to perfect. Also Charlottes SAW makes her a berserker type who can't control her skill, which is also not great for bosses, not that we have it.

 

[Fayne]

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Actually, also: Horace VS Charlotte... I assume, even though Charlotte has higher attack, and noticeably higher attack, Horace having a better skill, and, er... Well the trade off of ASPD for a massive attack boost on awakening makes her the general favorite? (Also, I suppose, she does soak magic attacks better due to the larger HP pool) I mean, I'm not sure it matters to me too much since I've used a magic swordsman once or twice... Ever? But I was just curious, since I've gotten the impression people don't like Charlotte.

Also: Man, the hideous deals some of you must make with the RNG drive me nuts =P I'm lucky to get 1, er, tin can, as it were, a week, probably averaging about .6 at this point. Heck, I ended up burning off Spirits just to squeeze some decent XP out of Hashims, because trying to hang on to them was deeply impractical. And, er... I dunno, I could almost get a level out of 1 or 2 even when pushing 80? So that was something.

Charlotte and Horace fill different roles. They are pretty similar to Saki and Nagi in my opinion. Charlotte has a much higher attack speed and her normal skill is okay at best. Har skill AW sucks a lot, as it activates when it's ready. That way you can't really use it when you need it and might very well get badlucky, when it just turns off, when the tricky situation starts. Horace has a lot more attack but lower attack speed and her normal skill is a little better than Charlottes. Her skill AW is awesome though: Two attacks every time she attacks. With her already high attack that is really good. Because of those traits Charlotte is more useful when it comes to weaker units in masses, so her position is basically anti-swarm or anti-rush. Horace on the other hand is a supportive damage dealer against bosses. Both have their niches and can't really be compared with each other. Only problem is: IF you ever use a magic fencer, it's probably for additional damage against bosses, that are blocked by a duelist/tank and have limited ranged slots around them. Charlottes anti-rush/anti-swarm ability is better filled by Saki for example, who is just as easily obtained. On the other hand I don't really like Horace looks and prefer Charlotte. So if I ever get bored enough to level a class, that I have yet to field for the first time ever, it'll probably be Charlotte. Despite everything I said she is not that bad, just a little weirdly designed

As for tin cans: Badluck. The numbers I posted are not what I get or estimate, it's the numbers everyone on DMM assumes to be correct.

 

[Melphy]

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Always a shame to be specializing in misfortune rather than other people just being fortunate =P

Actually, speaking of characters I'm not 100% sure what to do with... I use Cyrus a lot, but, as previously mentioned, I'm not sure about awakening him (like, it's not an immediate/near future thing if I do, it's more of "Will I do this some day?"), because I feel like the loss of range could be... A problem? Making him ineffective in some cases?

I mean, on a similar note, I ended up with Zola, who is in... A sort of similar situation... I guess? Though if I ever end up using her (... I've never fielded her, actually. Leveled her because I have no other Artillery units, but her skill seems... Ehhhh? Like, if I wanted magic splash damage I have mages? Range seems nice though), I don't know that that shift would matter, because 290 vs 300 doesn't seem like... Much of a difference at all when taken next to 200 vs 240.

Really not sure how to approach that one.

Oh, and secondarily: In the cases of characters who have bad Awakened Skills or w/e, is there any real penalty to not shifting them? Like, does Charlotte's skill get bonus up time/damage/reduced cooldown or something in exchange for it auto firing? Or would you just never take that upgrade?

 

[Fayne]

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Oh, and secondarily: In the cases of characters who have bad Awakened Skills or w/e, is there any real penalty to not shifting them? Like, does Charlotte's skill get bonus up time/damage/reduced cooldown or something in exchange for it auto firing? Or would you just never take that upgrade?

Regarding mages: I don't really like any mages awakening benefits, beside Sasha and Mehlis. As a freemium I have neither though.

As for Charlottes skill AW: Everything besides auto-usage is better.
Normal skill: 20 s duration, 1.5 attack, 15 initial cooldown, 30 CD
Skill AW: 20 s duration, 1.7 attack, 10 initial cooldown, 20 CD
Therefore it has both advantages and disadvantages

 

[Melphy]

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Yeah, I hear you on mages having meh awakening benefits. I'll probably end up doing Odette sooner or later just because, for all that the benefit isn't really significant... It will give her.. MORE. NUMBERS. And why worry about skill when you can win with unmatchable numbers? =P

 

[Fayne]

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She's actually next on my list as well^^

 

[kleem]

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I love my Charlotte both on DMM and Nutaku.If I wanted saki I would use sake,but Charlottes come with the ranged magic dmg that is useful on bosses that don't have high MR,and like Fayne said she is good on anti swarm.Also don't forget Charlotte's Awakening ability,which is 20% chance to atk again,and can active multiple times in the same atk.(Its nice when you see it happen 3 times in a row XD)

Hoarce I can't just get myself to use her.I don't like her design imo,and I don't like the slowdown to justicify her atk.

You mentioned Cannoneers Melphy,and compared them directly to mages.
Well they can be compared to mages for splash dmg,but they are physical,and thats why you see them in Magic crystal map strategies.

 

[Melphy]

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Actually, the main reason I was commenting on Zola as compared to mages was that Zola's skill is to temporarily convert her damage to magic damage, so I found that... Not inspiring? Since artillery characters seemed to be meant as the ranged physical splash damage class, and I already have one for magic?

Or am I underestimating how useful that is somewhere? (and additionally, is she a decent unit? I have no bar to compare her with since... Again, don't really have much in the way of artillery in my collection, as it were)