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Oh, yes, Anya's AW is amazing, if nothing else because her sword(s) are actually pretty awesome, I know on some level they're more or less "sword chucks," but it'd be pretty cool to see a character in like an actual show or brawler or something wielding those things...
Yuyu's is really silly, just because she gets that swarm of pumpkin familiars, though I'm pretty eh on Cloris's, the design is... Really strange in places.
Of course, then there's ones like Camilla and Iris too where... It's like "Oh, well I was standing before, but I'm kneeling now! Behold AW transition!" Though I kind of don't like those because their pre AW art is a lot... Crisper? I dunno, I find AW art to be a really mixed bag.
Though, I mean, I do find some stylistically cool. Shunka's is actually kind of neat, I... Actually kind of do like Imelia's black and... rose-neon pink axe. For all that it's super silly. (If we want to get into it, Conrad's is actually a rather significant improvement =P) I'd say the winner for "Best looking AW: Not likely to be AW'd" ratio award is probably Momiji, and Rita's is actually pretty sweet but... But...
Does Bashira really use identical art? No changes at all?
You know, I think that might be my real issue. They have this problem with AW designs where some of them are cool extensions of the starting character, but then a lot of them are either... Almost not different at all (Like the aforementioned Priestess, Maribel to a degree, in that I have to flip back and forth between them to go "Oh, she's holding her shield up and applied some armor polish" to nail what the differences even are, Zola... Stand slightly straighter? Odette... Sits down?), or they just swing too far away from the character's design to the point that, if you like their original design... You, er, aren't going to be happy. Like Cypria suddenly turns into a pirate. Sophie's thing. Some of the Dark Knight stuff, uhm... Honestly Len, I don't think I'd realize they were the same character without help.
To be fair, really looking at these did help me notice that I'm at least "okay" with more of them than I thought, or some of them had neat quirks I missed, but I feel like my negative overall impression is because "Wow that's bland" and "Wow that's really bad" stand out more in my head than "Oh, yeah, that's okay, got a cute quirk there," and... Well I haven't seen THAT many I thought were GREAT. (Though see Anya. Anya forever.)
Also... I almost never use Samurai? Though I have 3 (partially because Anya preformed a terrible SAMURAI ECLIPSE due to her... Being her), and I don't know if I should bother with any of them (My highest is currently... Kojuro? Because he's an okay unit I can deploy on male only maps). Like, will there come a time where I'll end up regretting I don't have, you know, a 50cc60 or 70 or w/e Kojuro or Akane or something? Because as is they're going to be hanging out in like CC 30-40 limbo forever, since... Yeah still have barely ever used them. They have a bad case of "Too expensive to rush, not strong enough to validate their placement when I can snag Anya or something down if I have about 30-ish points sitting around." Though, much like my "I dun know what Artillery does" thing earlier, I am prepare to be very wrong.
Oh, yes, Anya's AW is amazing, if nothing else because her sword(s) are actually pretty awesome, I know on some level they're more or less "sword chucks," but it'd be pretty cool to see a character in like an actual show or brawler or something wielding those things...
Yuyu's is really silly, just because she gets that swarm of pumpkin familiars, though I'm pretty eh on Cloris's, the design is... Really strange in places.
Of course, then there's ones like Camilla and Iris too where... It's like "Oh, well I was standing before, but I'm kneeling now! Behold AW transition!" Though I kind of don't like those because their pre AW art is a lot... Crisper? I dunno, I find AW art to be a really mixed bag.
Though, I mean, I do find some stylistically cool. Shunka's is actually kind of neat, I... Actually kind of do like Imelia's black and... rose-neon pink axe. For all that it's super silly. (If we want to get into it, Conrad's is actually a rather significant improvement =P) I'd say the winner for "Best looking AW: Not likely to be AW'd" ratio award is probably Momiji, and Rita's is actually pretty sweet but... But...
Does Bashira really use identical art? No changes at all?
You know, I think that might be my real issue. They have this problem with AW designs where some of them are cool extensions of the starting character, but then a lot of them are either... Almost not different at all (Like the aforementioned Priestess, Maribel to a degree, in that I have to flip back and forth between them to go "Oh, she's holding her shield up and applied some armor polish" to nail what the differences even are, Zola... Stand slightly straighter? Odette... Sits down?), or they just swing too far away from the character's design to the point that, if you like their original design... You, er, aren't going to be happy. Like Cypria suddenly turns into a pirate. Sophie's thing. Some of the Dark Knight stuff, uhm... Honestly Len, I don't think I'd realize they were the same character without help.
To be fair, really looking at these did help me notice that I'm at least "okay" with more of them than I thought, or some of them had neat quirks I missed, but I feel like my negative overall impression is because "Wow that's bland" and "Wow that's really bad" stand out more in my head than "Oh, yeah, that's okay, got a cute quirk there," and... Well I haven't seen THAT many I thought were GREAT. (Though see Anya. Anya forever.)
Also... I almost never use Samurai? Though I have 3 (partially because Anya preformed a terrible SAMURAI ECLIPSE due to her... Being her), and I don't know if I should bother with any of them (My highest is currently... Kojuro? Because he's an okay unit I can deploy on male only maps). Like, will there come a time where I'll end up regretting I don't have, you know, a 50cc60 or 70 or w/e Kojuro or Akane or something? Because as is they're going to be hanging out in like CC 30-40 limbo forever, since... Yeah still have barely ever used them. They have a bad case of "Too expensive to rush, not strong enough to validate their placement when I can snag Anya or something down if I have about 30-ish points sitting around." Though, much like my "I dun know what Artillery does" thing earlier, I am prepare to be very wrong.
Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)
Fixed up the guide with Engrish map names and key kii's videos.
I feel most Awakening arts are pretty neat, and especially the new pixel sprites, but I agree that if you like the design, sudden changes to it might be rather jarring. Which is, I guess, the reason behind "another pose" AW arts Melphy's finds uninteresting
My personal favorite arts are that of Summonners. And Mikoto. Really makes you feel the theme) Also like Deine's, Ada's, Yuyu's, Shuka's, Len's, both Karmas, Anya's, Echidna's, Robert's, Barbie's and of course C****d's new arts
I despise what artists did with Dark Fighter girls. They were so unique-looking, yet come Awakening they all become soo cookie-cutter, and, to add insult to injury, nearly identical to common Soldiers XD. At least Grandmaster is not buying this bullsh!t makeovers and becomes only more manly and awesome B)
Fixed up the guide with Engrish map names and key kii's videos.
I feel most Awakening arts are pretty neat, and especially the new pixel sprites, but I agree that if you like the design, sudden changes to it might be rather jarring. Which is, I guess, the reason behind "another pose" AW arts Melphy's finds uninteresting
My personal favorite arts are that of Summonners. And Mikoto. Really makes you feel the theme) Also like Deine's, Ada's, Yuyu's, Shuka's, Len's, both Karmas, Anya's, Echidna's, Robert's, Barbie's and of course C****d's new arts
I despise what artists did with Dark Fighter girls. They were so unique-looking, yet come Awakening they all become soo cookie-cutter, and, to add insult to injury, nearly identical to common Soldiers XD. At least Grandmaster is not buying this bullsh!t makeovers and becomes only more manly and awesome B)
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What about Rita? She's good. Most people prefer Bashira, but I chose her to be my second archer after Spica, while Bashira is mostly on kitchen duty. Reason for that is Bashira's AW ability sucks and her AW art doesn't change at all (she's the only unit on DMM that's the case, honestly why?)
About dark knights: Okay, Elva looses a bit. Her AW art is still good, but her original art ist still better. Her AW art ist just copying Shihos pose the bad way. Yurina' art sucks before and after AW. That's not because of her looks, the art style is just really bad. I'd still say it gets better after awakening though. Cornelia: No discussion, her AW art is sooo much better. Dark Knight... well, it's a male unit. Discussion over. So all in all I think Dark Knight tend to get better after turning into a paladin in my opinion.
About Len: I really like her AW art for some reason. It kinda makes me regret that I didn't spend SC to perfect her back then. -2 2/5 is not really great. Well, maybe if we ever get her revival.
Screw Samurais. Shizuka is useable and the black event unit (Hibari?) is good. Everyone else: Don't even bother. And the class is very replaceable.
What about Rita? She's good. Most people prefer Bashira, but I chose her to be my second archer after Spica, while Bashira is mostly on kitchen duty. Reason for that is Bashira's AW ability sucks and her AW art doesn't change at all (she's the only unit on DMM that's the case, honestly why?)
About dark knights: Okay, Elva looses a bit. Her AW art is still good, but her original art ist still better. Her AW art ist just copying Shihos pose the bad way. Yurina' art sucks before and after AW. That's not because of her looks, the art style is just really bad. I'd still say it gets better after awakening though. Cornelia: No discussion, her AW art is sooo much better. Dark Knight... well, it's a male unit. Discussion over. So all in all I think Dark Knight tend to get better after turning into a paladin in my opinion.
About Len: I really like her AW art for some reason. It kinda makes me regret that I didn't spend SC to perfect her back then. -2 2/5 is not really great. Well, maybe if we ever get her revival.
Screw Samurais. Shizuka is useable and the black event unit (Hibari?) is good. Everyone else: Don't even bother. And the class is very replaceable.
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Don't know much about samurais since I've never used them before, but from what I've heard even in the jp side of the game there's usually better alternatives to them.
Nonetheless I doubt your units (at least the gold units) will stay forever at CC30-40.
What happened to me was that due to constant farm of phalanx 2 + base scramble II I ended up with too many stockpiled gold fairies and lvl20 bronze +exp soldiers. So as to not waste anything I ended up using 1 fairy+3 soldiers all the way until all my gold are at least CC60 or AW40...
Still working to do the same thing on my plat units but I don't have enough fairies nor gold to be so extravagant (all those lvl 24 +exp samurais waiting to be fed).
Now I'm reaching a new threshold, needing to:
1- get plat units up to lvl 70
2- get more silver units
3- AW more units
4- consider using 1x fairy + 3 + exp copper units vs 3 fairies + tin can after AW40 (I believe it would be more cost effective the latter however tin cans and plat fairies aren't that readily available. Also, dismissing the units from BS2 seems such a waste...)
Don't know much about samurais since I've never used them before, but from what I've heard even in the jp side of the game there's usually better alternatives to them.
Nonetheless I doubt your units (at least the gold units) will stay forever at CC30-40.
What happened to me was that due to constant farm of phalanx 2 + base scramble II I ended up with too many stockpiled gold fairies and lvl20 bronze +exp soldiers. So as to not waste anything I ended up using 1 fairy+3 soldiers all the way until all my gold are at least CC60 or AW40...
Still working to do the same thing on my plat units but I don't have enough fairies nor gold to be so extravagant (all those lvl 24 +exp samurais waiting to be fed).
Now I'm reaching a new threshold, needing to:
1- get plat units up to lvl 70
2- get more silver units
3- AW more units
4- consider using 1x fairy + 3 + exp copper units vs 3 fairies + tin can after AW40 (I believe it would be more cost effective the latter however tin cans and plat fairies aren't that readily available. Also, dismissing the units from BS2 seems such a waste...)
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Personally I don't use tin cans before level 59/60/61 (depends on rarity). And I use my gold and black faries to level plat units, rather than leveling gold units I won't use (2 AW max, 6 CC max, enough is enough)
Personally I don't use tin cans before level 59/60/61 (depends on rarity). And I use my gold and black faries to level plat units, rather than leveling gold units I won't use (2 AW max, 6 CC max, enough is enough)
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Yeah. And since we have to deal with a lot of armors even my alt's Nanaly can't do her job like always. The only unit that did her job brilliantly so far is Olivie (it's the only reason I didn't AW her yet!). Even Despi did so-so
Well for now I have to wait for stamina and gonna try again to 3* maps and go to the next ones. I think I'm around halfway of the maps or just barely after.
Anyway I like this. It's something new. And the map with those units already placed and standing was quite confusing at first. But again - that's something new and fresh so I like it!
Yeah. And since we have to deal with a lot of armors even my alt's Nanaly can't do her job like always. The only unit that did her job brilliantly so far is Olivie (it's the only reason I didn't AW her yet!). Even Despi did so-so
Well for now I have to wait for stamina and gonna try again to 3* maps and go to the next ones. I think I'm around halfway of the maps or just barely after.
Anyway I like this. It's something new. And the map with those units already placed and standing was quite confusing at first. But again - that's something new and fresh so I like it!
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I went in blind and managed to 3-star up to map 5 on first try. Waiting for stamina to regen so I can try map 6.
There were some close oh-shit moments, like the first time the commander arrived and even my Sybilla did puny damage. Those cannoneers on map 4 also made me scurry to retreat squishy units and throw in a HA to stop them before they got any closer to the rest.
I didn't actually have any problems at all with map 5.
I went in blind and managed to 3-star up to map 5 on first try. Waiting for stamina to regen so I can try map 6.
There were some close oh-shit moments, like the first time the commander arrived and even my Sybilla did puny damage. Those cannoneers on map 4 also made me scurry to retreat squishy units and throw in a HA to stop them before they got any closer to the rest.
I didn't actually have any problems at all with map 5.
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It's a good thing I did the second to the last map on the alt first, because I kept forgetting to activate Dark Knight's skill like a dumbass twice in a row, so the Greater Demon just steamrolled whatever was in front of it.....but, at least the main is done and it can do Witch/Bandit farming.
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Only 5000? Gellius can only laugh about this much. It's only the healers fault for not healing him up in time if he dies. At max level he even survives without his skill active xD
Oh, even Deine can do it
Edit: Forgot the miasma and it's half attack and defence thing. Gellius can only do it with skill active (skill level 5/5) and Deine can't do it at all. Anya can though. How could I forget her.
Only 5000? Gellius can only laugh about this much. It's only the healers fault for not healing him up in time if he dies. At max level he even survives without his skill active xD
Oh, even Deine can do it
Edit: Forgot the miasma and it's half attack and defence thing. Gellius can only do it with skill active (skill level 5/5) and Deine can't do it at all. Anya can though. How could I forget her.
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Immortal Karma doesn't even need healers And it would be the fault of ranged dps squad if anything goes wrong
On the side note: thinking about skiping 5th map for now. That feeling of wasting stam when cheap witch map is waiting <.<
Immortal Karma doesn't even need healers
And it would be the fault of ranged dps squad if anything goes wrong On the side note: thinking about skiping 5th map for now. That feeling of wasting stam when cheap witch map is waiting <.<
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Lately my Karma is getting bored of her short appearances and being egoistic by taking everyone's fun from tanking big bosses. She found her true role in keeping everyone alive, by fighting smaller bosses and thus makeing everyone have more fun.
Immortal Karma doesn't even need healers
Lately my Karma is getting bored of her short appearances and being egoistic by taking everyone's fun from tanking big bosses. She found her true role in keeping everyone alive, by fighting smaller bosses and thus makeing everyone have more fun.
It's all about mages or ranged damage dealers. Kill all stationary armors before the Dark Knight spawns and when he does let Karma have fun with him and keep everyone alive
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I should really use Karma more often (especially since I bothered to get her to 5/5 via Rainbow Fairies....), but I haven't had a need to use her ever since....Immortal Beast and Horace's event, I think.
I should really use Karma more often (especially since I bothered to get her to 5/5 via Rainbow Fairies....), but I haven't had a need to use her ever since....Immortal Beast and Horace's event, I think.
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Karma is my fastest way to farm Phalanx 2. Karma + Prince -> afk. I haven't found anything faster (less UP than 28) so far. My Imelia has enough damage but dies in the last group, maybe closer to max level. Anya can do it but is more expencive and needs to be placed further away from the enemy spawn (therefore the run takes some seconds longer).
Edit:Well, Olivie and Mikoto can do it even without Prince and therefore are cheaper, but I have neither
Karma is my fastest way to farm Phalanx 2. Karma + Prince -> afk. I haven't found anything faster (less UP than 28) so far. My Imelia has enough damage but dies in the last group, maybe closer to max level. Anya can do it but is more expencive and needs to be placed further away from the enemy spawn (therefore the run takes some seconds longer).
Edit:Well, Olivie and Mikoto can do it even without Prince and therefore are cheaper, but I have neither
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That's actually what I've been doing with the Alt. :V ...I hate you so much friggin' Alt account.... Haven't tried Olivie on the Main, but I've been ingrained to using Belinda + Cloris for so long it's hard for me to switch to anything else. I did switch to Imelia once just to see the the effects of the patch in action though.
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First of all I needed to 3* 4th map with my main -_- At the moment my alts are stuck with 5th map. And they have only one Karma... plat Karma
Started doing phalanx2 on alt with AWed Lyla Always good to have some extra gold.
First of all I needed to 3* 4th map with my main -_- At the moment my alts are stuck with 5th map. And they have only one Karma... plat Karma
Started doing phalanx2 on alt with AWed Lyla
Always good to have some extra gold.
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Blah, had to redo map 5 too since I forgot to withdraw Karma. Although it turned out that I didn't need my other princesses or Charlotte anyway since the bastards loop at the end.
Blah, had to redo map 5 too since I forgot to withdraw Karma. Although it turned out that I didn't need my other princesses or Charlotte anyway since the bastards loop at the end.
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Mikoto so silly. Just got her to AW99 this past week.
I don't remember when, but there's a point at which she can solo that map even w/o Prince. I think it was still pre-AW. Without skill, too.
Mikoto so silly. Just got her to AW99 this past week.
I don't remember when, but there's a point at which she can solo that map even w/o Prince. I think it was still pre-AW. Without skill, too.