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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Oh my... Am I dreaming?Is it truly the Aigis we all played for the past near-two years?? By the same team??? :eek: :confused:
Alright, who's that impostors and what did they do to our JP devs? :D
 
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Last map is pretty good for my Lyla and Betty, lots of easy enemies for gold get to trigger.
I don't need Maribel anymore, but I do need more silver HA, so I guess I'll run it on days where there's nothing better to do with the stamina.
 
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Started doing some 2k gachas for the heck of it against my better judgement, then suddenly...
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I went through a ton of Iron and Bronzes, but I guess it was worth it going against my better judgement. And, I was gonna AW Vincent , but I guess that's pointless now. :V Second time I've gotten a Plat from 2k, the first being a dupe Cypria.
 
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Q_Q I'm running out of gold and all I've gotten is stupid Liddy,Rachel,a dwarf,Dorca,2 Kazuhas,Cecily,and Harissa all of em garbage compared to Mischa.
 
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I decided to do a yolo roll in honour of the sudden improvements in the game.

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Yes. This will do nicely.
 
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Hm, got nothing left to spend my freemium SCs on and enough left for a collection event. Absolutely wish I could get Cornelia, Marr would be awesome and Claire is good as well, so why not spend a bit on rolling... Got two silvers and Themis... Yeah, I know why I stopped wasting SCs on the shrine.

On the other hand: Pupuru is not censored (at least nothing I can see), her scenes are really well translated, we got Claire and Misha, back-to-back event and revival? This could really be a step in the right direction.
Sad enough that we are happy about these small things, but I take what I can get^^
 
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*Spams 2k Gatcha*
*Gets three Gadoras*
I didn't know he was even in the gatcha. I also don't know what to do with him.
 
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*Spams 2k Gatcha*
*Gets three Gadoras*
I didn't know he was even in the gatcha. I also don't know what to do with him.

Even if you don't need him for Anya's or Echidna's Awakening: He has Increase Attack III/IV, which makes him a good way to increase several units' skills.
 
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Even if you don't need him for Anya's or Echidna's Awakening: He has Increase Attack III/IV, which makes him a good way to increase several units' skills.

That's what I'm sayin, he should have a skill that isn' made of cowardice. REAL men use Risk Life, not that wimpy 'Increase Attack' crap.
(Don't tell Mortimer I said that.)
(Or Garrett. Or Crave, Or Saizo.)

Edit: srsly though, I wanna get Conrad's skill up; Kerry can deal with 3/5 skill.
 
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Oh wow, first event I ever 100% completed. I feel so accomplished!

Only took me, what... two years? =/
 
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How does Maribel's skill work? Does the x2 include her affection bonus?

I notice some people say she isn't very good. But with her skill up she has 408 attack and 790 defence at max level (not including affection). I know her skill wont always be up but she's better than a silver without it and is kind of like a plat Garrett with it.

I'm conflicted in what I want to do. I would like to farm soldiers because they are on the cheapest map and I only have 2. But I don't want to miss out on maxing Maribel if she could be useful.
 
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Yes, her affection is doubled as well. It's rather simple with all those skills: The number you see, when you click on the deployed unit will be multiplied with the factor (in this case 2). Samge goes for all skills and abilities including Prince title.

The problem with maribel is: You never use HAs to deal damage, you only want them to block several units and survive, hence defence is the most important stat. During skill use Maribel has a good defence value, but as soon as it runs out she's worse than every other HA (yes, even when comparing the max AW platinum Maribel and the CC50 Leanne, the latter will win. To be fair she has a decent AW ability and better HP though. Still, we're comparing platinum and silver here and it's not looking to good for the platinum). This is a serious problem, since you will easily run into timing issues, where you need to really concentrate on finding the right timing for her skill... or you could simply place Bernice.

She is a decent unit for newer players (back in the days I used her occasionally) but as soon as you have a good team you won't use her ever again.
 
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How does Maribel's skill work? Does the x2 include her affection bonus?

I notice some people say she isn't very good. But with her skill up she has 408 attack and 790 defence at max level (not including affection). I know her skill wont always be up but she's better than a silver without it and is kind of like a plat Garrett with it.

I'm conflicted in what I want to do. I would like to farm soldiers because they are on the cheapest map and I only have 2. But I don't want to miss out on maxing Maribel if she could be useful.

It does include it, Maribel has 910 defence with skill and 433 defence without skill at max AW while tanking up to 4. I took Bernice and Leeanne over her, many people who used her ended up deciding awakening her wouldn't be worth it.

If you want defence and block go for Leeanne and Bernice, attack and block go for a decent samurai.
Decent samurai are really great and when awakened will probably end up replacing your heavy except where defence is actually needed.

Maribel could be useful if you're lacking units but she's no Aria or Belinda. She excels in neither attack or defence and it hurts her badly.
 
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May be good to know that Maribel has the same skill as the platinum valkyrie Emilia. In the event you do not want to use Maribel she can be skill fodder.
 
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Yes, her affection is doubled as well. It's rather simple with all those skills: The number you see, when you click on the deployed unit will be multiplied with the factor (in this case 2). Samge goes for all skills and abilities including Prince title.

The problem with maribel is: You never use HAs to deal damage, you only want them to block several units and survive, hence defence is the most important stat. During skill use Maribel has a good defence value, but as soon as it runs out she's worse than every other HA (yes, even when comparing the max AW platinum Maribel and the CC50 Leanne, the latter will win. To be fair she has a decent AW ability and better HP though. Still, we're comparing platinum and silver here and it's not looking to good for the platinum). This is a serious problem, since you will easily run into timing issues, where you need to really concentrate on finding the right timing for her skill... or you could simply place Bernice.

She is a decent unit for newer players (back in the days I used her occasionally) but as soon as you have a good team you won't use her ever again.

That's why you don't use her as you would most heavy armors; you use her as a heavy blocker that can power up to take out tough mobs. HP is very important for HA's too, since they sometimes have to deal with magic damage, and should be supported by lots of healing anyway.

Timing isn't usually an issue, especially as we get to later content. Typically you want a unit to be good for specific parts of the map, such as when a boss shows up. If you need that Lich or whatever to die ASAP, and can't afford to place enough ranged DPS near where your tank is, then Maribel is pretty sweet.

Rita is a similar case but for archers. Her stats are pretty miserable for a plat archer, but her skill allows her to fill a niche that other archers can't. Also, I hear good things about Maribel's SAW, whenever we get that.

Edit: By the arguments you make against Maribel, Grace should be pretty bad as well, along with every other mage armor. They all are pretty mediocre when their skill is down. You use their skill when you need to clear stuff out fast, and don't worry about them when you don't. Maribel is kind of like a physical damage, close-range, single-target mage armor with a very nice stat buff during skill.
 
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May be good to know that Maribel has the same skill as the platinum valkyrie Emilia. In the event you do not want to use Maribel she can be skill fodder.

Also note that Maribel's way more useful than Emilia.
Typically Emilia is the one that gets fed to Maribel for skill lv.

So if you were not planning on using Maribel, chance is that Emilia lost her biggest use already.
 
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Decided to do a yolo roll since everyone else has been showing off their luck.

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Wasn't Conrad. Totally disappointed. :(
 
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So how do I farm for Maribel? 4th mission for 3 stamina? 5th for 6 stamina? Or 2nd for 2 stamina? Anyone has any data on which one is the most-stamina effective?
Because I need Somas, but she doesn't drop on the same maps Maribel drops... and just in case, and also for the sake of completionism, I will probably want to max Maribel.
 
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So how do I farm for Maribel? 4th mission for 3 stamina? 5th for 6 stamina? Or 2nd for 2 stamina? Anyone has any data on which one is the most-stamina effective?
Because I need Somas, but she doesn't drop on the same maps Maribel drops... and just in case, and also for the sake of completionism, I will probably want to max Maribel.

As always: If yo want the event unit: Farm the last map. It has the highest droprate/stamina. If you want silvers: Go either for the map that drops units you lack the most or the ones with lowest stamina cost (20/1 is the best) as they have the best droprate/stamina

That's why you don't use her as you would most heavy armors; you use her as a heavy blocker that can power up to take out tough mobs. HP is very important for HA's too, since they sometimes have to deal with magic damage, and should be supported by lots of healing anyway.

Timing isn't usually an issue, especially as we get to later content. Typically you want a unit to be good for specific parts of the map, such as when a boss shows up. If you need that Lich or whatever to die ASAP, and can't afford to place enough ranged DPS near where your tank is, then Maribel is pretty sweet.

Rita is a similar case but for archers. Her stats are pretty miserable for a plat archer, but her skill allows her to fill a niche that other archers can't. Also, I hear good things about Maribel's SAW, whenever we get that.

Edit: By the arguments you make against Maribel, Grace should be pretty bad as well, along with every other mage armor. They all are pretty mediocre when their skill is down. You use their skill when you need to clear stuff out fast, and don't worry about them when you don't. Maribel is kind of like a physical damage, close-range, single-target mage armor with a very nice stat buff during skill.

Of course you could use her to tear down a single strong boss "quickly". Or you could use any duelist that does the same, just better.
For example, let's compare her to Imelia:
HP: Imelia has 4352, Maribel has 3267. As you said, HP can be very important for tanks/defensive duelists. Imelia clearly wins by 33 %.
Def: Imelia has 328, Maribel has 455 (twice for both of them during their skills, so that doesn't really matter). Okay, fair enough, Maribel wins this clearly. During skill Maribel has 254 more def. This can (rarely) make a difference, it's 39 % more.
But honestly she needs to have more def as she blocks four instead of one. So if you want to fight a single strong boss and some weaker enemies spawn with him, Maribel will tank them as well, while Imelia let's them through. So basically Maribel will receive more damage, so she needs higher def to have any chance to survive. But let's ignore this for now.
Atk: Imelia has 875, Maribel 324 (again, twice for each of them during skill). And this is where Maribels problem lies. Even with her skill up she doesn't even come close to Imelias attack while she doesn't even have her skill up. During skill Imelia has 1102 atk more, this is 170 % more. Not even talking about enemies with heavy armor...
650 Atk only during skill is simply not enough to replace a duelist. You have to back up both of them with at least one healer anyways, the situations where the slightly higher defence of Maribel will make the difference between surviving and dieing are sparse at best. And chances are high she won't even deal enough damage with her low attack to kill the enemy before her skill runs out...
Comparing her with Mage armors or Samurais is pointless by the way. She doesn't even get close to being able to compete with them. Units with a decent to good defese who block multiple units and have a "high attack" are only worth it, if they attack multiple units. Which is exactly what Anya, Samurais and Mage Armors do. That's what puts them into a different niche than duelists and they are good at what they do. Maribel is just a weaker duelist that gets into serious trouble when the boss doesn't spawn alone.

Edit: About Rita. No, just no. When you ignore their skills AW Rita is the second strongest platinum archer after Spica, due to her AW ability being useful, while Bashira's and Victoria's skill are useless most of the time. Well, to be fair this is only true against units that have low enough defense that Rita's arrows don't bounce off, but you don't typically use archers against high defese enemies anyways. The only thing that differs between Bashira/Victoria and Rita is: The former have +dmg skills, Rita has a niche def skill. The raw strength of them is almost identical. Even without her AW ability Rita has only 5 % less Atk. So that argument is not really valid as the ranger situation is not comparable to Maribel and the HA situation.
 
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Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Did a yolo roll. Got Cuterie/Phyllis. Left disappointed. Won't roll again. 0/10.

Today's results. 0 Silver 2 Maribels. Meh.

And I didn't know Emilia have the Holy Awakening skill until you guys mentioned it.

It only made me want to grind Lines of Battle 2 all more harder than before. Just for Leeannes and Maribels.

Problem is, I have exactly zero Platinum fairies and they're already very rare for me and they're going to be even more rare now that break events might be not a thing anymore. Oh boy.

Edit: In fact I got seven tincans and no fairies to use on them. They've been sitting in my barracks for weeks now.
 
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