(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[razisgosu]

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Thanks. Those units seem pretty far away so will just stick to archers for now.

A lot of people overblow the love for pirates. For most content, archers are still perfectly viable, its not like they suddenly became useless. So its definitely perfectly fine to main archers on Nutaku for quite sometime yet. I still use Spica/Bashira on DMM. I did just get Anelia via the platinum ticket last month, so I may try Anelia/Sabrina soon though.

 

[khawk016]

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well then elizabeth is amazing for blood feast first time i didnt realize i needed to withdraw her she activated 2nd form early he proceeded to kill someone and lose my 3 star
second time realized shes got this hit her skill as he turned dropped lyla to tank the single shot he got off before elizabeth melted him

 

[Ericridge]

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Eighteen stars. This event is hard.

I figured it would be to my advantage if I brought an base level 31 Liana along for the ride.

That feast of blood. Geez.

Vampire Lord was brought down to 1 hp at hands of Spica, Bashira, and Khuri and i managed to dismiss all of them before he transformed then set down Lucille on an melee point where Iris would be able to keep her healed and then had her hit the Vampire lord to transform him.

Then I dropped down Liana next and waited for the paralysis attack and used her heal to remove it and that kept the vampire lord in place to be killed by lucille. It was a duel lol Had no other ranged units firing at the vampire lord. Well I cheated in the duel cuz Lucille haz two healers on her. But again my opponent is a cheating vampire lord so it evens out.

Then finally got the 3* clear on it.

Not looking forward to the G map on friday.

 

[Eab1990]

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I do have Anya (though I largely ignored her in favor of Deine and she's on 70% affection and only level 40), but I have no clue when and where to place her effectively, since her cost is ginormous.
As for the fencer... I suppose I could buy a Ricardo from the TP and work on him until he's CC50 by the end of the week. I've done this before for Saizo, for example, when another event mission really needed a melee ranged unit...
Problem is, there's NO way I'll also be able to grind trust items to get him to 100%. And if I would invest time into him, I'd have to ignore other crucial units, like the aforementioned Anya. Not to mention I want to farm Barrads this event, for AW purposes. And of course, so far I only got 1 Elaine, for a total of 10 wasting away in my barracks.
Overall, I just don't think it's worth all the effort just for 1 SC, 1 tincan and 1 rainbow fairy.

Why would you think you'd need trust items for him? If your DPS is so lacking that you think a difference of ~50 attack would make a difference, then Ricardo won't help you.

 

[0nymous]

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Why would you think you'd need trust items for him? If your DPS is so lacking that you think a difference of ~50 attack would make a difference, then Ricardo won't help you.

It adds up. Say he's not maxed fully, then let's say he'll take 10 seconds more for the golem to die. Those 10 seconds might be the ones when the golem wakes up and starts wrecking one unit after another.
The Saki assassination method is even riskier and the one I tried initially. It didn't work out. 1% assassination chance x 0.1 assassination rate = a one in a thousand chance to assassinate, right?

 

[Eab1990]

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It adds up. Say he's not maxed fully, then let's say he'll take 10 seconds more for the golem to die. Those 10 seconds might be the ones when the golem wakes up and starts wrecking one unit after another.
The Saki assassination method is even riskier and the one I tried initially. It didn't work out. 1% assassination chance x 0.1 assassination rate = a one in a thousand chance to assassinate, right?

Yeah, no. A difference of 50 attack against a 55k HP golem with 2k def and 40 MR will certainly not make a difference of ten seconds. You need to work out your priorities if you thought that was even remotely a possibility.

You'd get better mileage out of simply maxing his skill instead, considering the effort you'd be putting into an easily-replaceable silver.

Maxing trust shouldn't be a priority for anyone you aren't planning on awakening (or can't awaken, in this case).

 

[exkale]

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A lot of people overblow the love for pirates. For most content, archers are still perfectly viable, its not like they suddenly became useless. So its definitely perfectly fine to main archers on Nutaku for quite sometime yet. I still use Spica/Bashira on DMM. I did just get Anelia via the platinum ticket last month, so I may try Anelia/Sabrina soon though.

Sure. OK. If you still want a semblance of difficulty for regular events, then you'll use archers. Anything works fine for regular events (Read: Easy events for veterans) if you pay attention and put in the work. If you just want to get through regular events fast without the tedious process of remaking teams, then you just use Rachel because of the simplicity she offers.

Anyway, when people mention pirates, they usually mean Rachel (+Anelia).

I wonder why I always put her in my team every time a new event comes up when I have so many other

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(I don't often use that Black Archer, despite her being AW99. Go figure.). Fun fact: There are so many units I tried to use for fun, but I could never use them properly because Rachel cheeses through missions easily before the enemies could reach the units I want to try out.

 

[razisgosu]

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You just proved my point. Your screenshot of a recent DMM event using pirates, who have received skill awakening and multiple support units to further enhance and buff them. Things Nutaku won't have for... who knows how long. We're still getting 2014 events and revivals and our "1 year anniversary" was to get awakening in the game, we haven't even had Anna's event yet. Archers will serve people for quite sometime.

Will pirates be just as great as they are on DMM at somepoint on Nutaku? Probably around 2019 or 2020.

 

[khawk016]

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You just proved my point. Your screenshot of a recent DMM event using pirates, who have received skill awakening and multiple support units to further enhance and buff them. Things Nutaku won't have for... who knows how long. We're still getting 2014 events and revivals and our "1 year anniversary" was to get awakening in the game, we haven't even had Anna's event yet. Archers will serve people for quite sometime.

Will pirates be just as great as they are on DMM at somepoint on Nutaku? Probably around 2019 or 2020.

the big one being helena is early 2016 block and we are in the 2015 block atm not very deep but in it none the less id say mid to late 2018 at our pace

also anna is just a maid for the prince only she helps nothing else so having her while nice doesnt mark a grand thing for us b iris is a bigger thing then anna will be even though iris is a gatcha unit

 

[Fayne]

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Yeah, no. A difference of 50 attack against a 55k HP golem with 2k def and 40 MR will certainly not make a difference of ten seconds. You need to work out your priorities if you thought that was even remotely a possibility.

You are right. In key kii's setup it would have taken approximately 4 s longer. Decent enough I think, just because of the trust. And he was not that far off as you made it sound.

 

[0nymous]

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I just realized all the witches gain some kind of familiar after they AW. Some of them aren't present in their art.
Despara has one from the start, it only evolves.
Belinda gets an owl, her mom gets some kind of lizard, Adele gets a snek. Yuyu gets, uh... flying... pumpkins. Still counts. Fignelia is missing her AW art on the wiki, but you can see that parrot on her sprite. Ryuryu's teddy bear comes to life, that counts as well.
Silver witches don't get any, because they're scrubs.

 

[Ericridge]

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Silver witches don't get any, because they're scrubs.

Nah they already have one. Its the Prince!

 

[Rodox]

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Finally 3*ed all the maps. Damn golems...dat map was way easier on DMM... big thx to Emperor, Hibari and Shino i guess.

 

[PAAL]

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AW Cloris has a frog familiar.

The male magic fencer attack gain from trust would only become relevant during skill activation, the rest of the time there is no getting past the defense (2k for smalls and 3k for larges) and it's just constant chip damage. His damages are only supplemental at best. It's gonna take top notch magic DPS from witches as well as mages to kill the big golems before they start moving. so will most likely need at least one AW witch and/or some other forms of boost (Belinda 7%, advance strategist skill, dancer).

 

[PAAL]

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Finally 3*ed all the maps. Damn golems...dat map was way easier on DMM... big thx to Emperor, Hibari and Shino i guess.

DMM was way easier because Emperor alone can just erase both golems on one side, so you only need to focus all magic DPS on one big golem and block the small one.

 

[khawk016]

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its not the golems who got me its that one goblin rider got a witch while i was postponing placing iris for the small golem on the right to hit claudia stupid yes i didnt know anything needed a healer until to late rip yuyu and your 700 hp
though hores and odette was almost enough to kill the big guy but lucille did him in anyway and hes quite easy to dodge or bait

 

[Fayne]

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The male magic fencer attack gain from trust would only become relevant during skill activation, the rest of the time there is no getting past the defense (2k for smalls and 3k for larges) and it's just constant chip damage. His damages are only supplemental at best.

I took that into consideration in my calculations. I assumed the damage to be 0 outside of skill. He's still doing about 25 % of the toral damage on the large golem in key kii's video.

 

[Larcx]

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I just realized all the witches gain some kind of familiar after they AW. Some of them aren't present in their art.
Despara has one from the start, it only evolves.
Belinda gets an owl, her mom gets some kind of lizard, Adele gets a snek. Yuyu gets, uh... flying... pumpkins. Still counts. Fignelia is missing her AW art on the wiki, but you can see that parrot on her sprite. Ryuryu's teddy bear comes to life, that counts as well.
Silver witches don't get any, because they're scrubs.

Liana gets Owl
Supura have Panther
Maple have Deer - (pedo)Bear - Rabbit - Chick
Sue have Bald Eagle
Aisha have Tortoise(?)
Amanda have Pussy Tiger(?)
Moltena have Orhtros - Cerberus
Ricola have Dog(?) or Wolf(?)
Farne have Pussy Cat in Boots (LOL) on one of her AW Route - Phantasm Summoner (Not sprite tho , only on Art)

The rest are Witches like You said
Other if counted are mount for some Valk / Pegasus

And any other I forgot / miss

Damn......
What a Zoo >.>

 

[Tesseract]

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A lot of people overblow the love for pirates. For most content, archers are still perfectly viable, its not like they suddenly became useless. So its definitely perfectly fine to main archers on Nutaku for quite sometime yet. I still use Spica/Bashira on DMM. I did just get Anelia via the platinum ticket last month, so I may try Anelia/Sabrina soon though.

It just the good-ole' forum poster's love of extreme hyperbole. Your girl doesn't do 4x the damage of every other unit and isn't a loli? = "Absolute garbage unit." Pirates will become viable replacement for archers? = "Archers absolute garbage units."

Why would you think you'd need trust items for him? If your DPS is so lacking that you think a difference of ~50 attack would make a difference, then Ricardo won't help you.

Maybe not in this example, but +50 attack can be the difference between 1 damage, and 50 damage. The armor gating mechanic in this game is real.

You are right. In key kii's setup it would have taken approximately 4 s longer. Decent enough I think, just because of the trust. And he was not that far off as you made it sound.

#theydidthemath

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edit; thoughts: Going up against the golems completely blind was sort of fun, but perhaps a mistake. Having to guess at things like their melee range felt overly gimmicky. I'm still advocating for the addition of some kind of 'scouting' unit (

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) that lets you take a look at an enemy's stats by clicking on them.

 

[Ericridge]

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Liana gets Owl
Supura have Panther
Maple have Deer - (pedo)Bear - Rabbit - Chick
Sue have Bald Eagle
Aisha have Tortoise(?)
Amanda have Pussy Tiger(?)
Moltena have Orhtros - Cerberus
Ricola have Dog(?) or Wolf(?)
Farne have Pussy Cat in Boots (LOL) on one of her AW Route - Phantasm Summoner (Not sprite tho , only on Art)

The rest are Witches like You said
Other if counted are mount for some Valk / Pegasus

And any other I forgot / miss

Damn......
What a Zoo >.>

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