(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[xaxs]

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Oh neat, 7 Easter Eggs will be given out, as we were given only one the last time we got it. It'll still take a bit of SC spending (unless they make the 100/2 mistake again :V), but that'll help a little with the chocolates I still have saved for when Sera comes, which could happen after Miranda unless they drop Verdinath instead.

Edit: Blagh, in extreme hindsight I just remembered Nordland did give the heads up we were getting more than one Easter Egg present, but I skimmed through the last part about the daily login dates

Is Sera so good unit that it is worth using chocos and eggs?

 

[Selius]

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Is Sera so good unit that it is worth using chocos and eggs?

she looks pretty fucking awesome to me.

14 cost healer with 30 second aoe burst heal that she can use while tanking, atkdef affection and big boobs. winner.

 

[taikishi]

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Actually, Sera stops healing when she's blocking -- even if her skill is active and even after SAW'd.

Compare:

Sera:
Passive: Mithril Arms: 10% activation chance each:
* Attack increases by 1.8x.
* Nullify damage.

Heal Wind: Attack increases by 1.4x, and range by 1.2x. All allies within range are healed simultaneously.

True Silver's Brilliance: For 30 seconds, Mithril Arms' activation chance is increased to 50%. Upon activation, all allies are healed simultaneously.


Ehret:

Sacred Mace: For 15 seconds, range increases by 1.4x. Focus on restoration.

Wonder Mace: For 15 seconds, defense is halved in exchange for attack increasing by 1.2x and range by 3.0x. Focus on restoration.


Notice that Ehret says she focuses on restoration, Sera doesn't. That means the moment Sera starts blocking she stops healing whereas Ehret keeps healing while blocking.




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I also wanted to throw in a quick word on Thieves so people have a better understanding of what they do/don't do

Thieves are a drop up class. Thief, and their CC'd version Master Thief, increase the drop rates on the following by 3% just by being part of your sortie; in exchange enemy units' have their attack and HP increased by x1.2:
* Awakening Orbs
* Item Trial drops
* Affection
* Magic (Demon) Crystals

They do not affect the drop rates of anything that goes into your barracks - that would be iron or above deployable units, fairies or exp armors.

This drop rate up is regardless of rarity, so gold thief Leda and platinum thief Anita do the same thing. Awakened, the drop rate increase goes to 5% and the bonus to your enemies increases from x1.2 to x1.3.

 

[Orion]

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Is Sera so good unit that it is worth using chocos and eggs?

Mmm probably not, could be better to wait and use them for Pippin and/or Eterna or hoard them all the way until we get to OP Hibari (though it's still quite a long, long way to get there), but my Alt could use her.

Hrm....I should really try out Golden Armor G one of these days, but my stuff is still probably too weak.

 

[Selius]

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Actually, Sera stops healing when she's blocking -- even if her skill is active and even after SAW'd.

Compare:

Sera:
Passive: Mithril Arms: 10% activation chance each:
* Attack increases by 1.8x.
* Nullify damage.

Heal Wind: Attack increases by 1.4x, and range by 1.2x. All allies within range are healed simultaneously.

True Silver's Brilliance: For 30 seconds, Mithril Arms' activation chance is increased to 50%. Upon activation, all allies are healed simultaneously.


Ehret:

Sacred Mace: For 15 seconds, range increases by 1.4x. Focus on restoration.

Wonder Mace: For 15 seconds, defense is halved in exchange for attack increasing by 1.2x and range by 3.0x. Focus on restoration.


Notice that Ehret says she focuses on restoration, Sera doesn't. That means the moment Sera starts blocking she stops healing whereas Ehret keeps healing while blocking.

i don't have her cuz i don't play on dmm but : sera's ability does not have a duration. it's an instant, isnt it? that's what i mean. push button: receive heal.

 

[taikishi]

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i don't have her cuz i don't play on dmm but : sera's ability does not have a duration. it's an instant, isnt it? that's what i mean

Yes, it's a one time "heal the entire map" that has a 50% chance of being done at 786 attack, instead of 437, but other Priest Warriors can heal while blocking during skill activation which gives them a major leg up. Also, Camellia and Gold Iris also instant heal the entire map on activation of their SAW.

Gold Iris: x2.1/x.18/x1.5 attack for 30s (each activation lowers bonus), instantly heals entire map

Camellia: x1.6/x1.9 attack for 25s (x2.2, 30s, x1.2 range on third or later activation) and instantly heals entire map.


You generally want your healers focusing on healing during their skill activation, and unfortunately Sera doesn't do that past the initial "heal all" if she blocks anything.

 

[Selius]

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You generally want your healers focusing on healing during their skill activation, and unfortunately Sera doesn't do that past the initial "heal all" if she blocks anything.

maybe so. but i like "oh shit" buttons. she would be a wonderful thing in desert maps when i could rapidfire plop down a few people and instantly heal them all before they get attacked.

also your math is slightly off for max levels. possible 1101 aoe heal without prince buff. 1310 with.

 

[JimmyBob100]

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also your math is slightly off for max levels. possible 1101 aoe heal without prince buff. 1310 with.

SAW is an entirely new skill; the 1.4 atk from the previous skill no longer applies.

 

[Selius]

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SAW is an entirely new skill; the 1.4 atk from the previous skill no longer applies.

that's only if you upgrade it. it's still a 10% chance.

 

[Fayne]

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But her normal skill is no insta-heal for the complete map. Only her range, which is not that great.

 

[khawk016]

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sera is great if shes behind something that will never leak a unit to her and that insta heal wont save you in most cases especially if shes blocking
she looks great but fails at her job ive run into many cases of not enough heals what are you doing sera

 

[taikishi]

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Like Maybe said, if you don't upgrade to get SAW, you don't get the instant map wide heal.

With healing wind: 437 * 1.4 = 611 attack aoe healer before Mithril Arms, decent lightning rod due to 15MR + chance to negate. No map wide heal

With True Silver's Brilliance: 786 attack when Mithril Arms proc, very high tier lightning rod due to 50% negation + 15 MR. Map wide instant heal on activation.

 

[Fayne]

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Like Maybe said, if ...

Call me Maybe?

 

[xaxs]

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Mmm probably not, could be better to wait and use them for Pippin and/or Eterna or hoard them all the way until we get to OP Hibari (though it's still quite a long, long way to get there), but my Alt could use her.

Hrm....I should really try out Golden Armor G one of these days, but my stuff is still probably too weak.

Do chocos and eggs have expiration date?

About Golden Armor G... You are here too long to be too weak for that, I think. Main point is to have two decent duelists against pink armors. 60lvl Claudia is doing quite fine.


Edit: So I don't have to try too hard for perfect Sera.

 

[khawk016]

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Do chocos and eggs have expiration date?

About Golden Armor G... You are here too long to be too weak for that, I think. Main point is to have two decent duelists against pink armors. 60lvl Claudia is doing quite fine.


Edit: So I don't have to try too hard for perfect Sera.

no expiration date on egss/choco

golden armour g is nuts without feng shei thank god for pippin soonish

 

[xaxs]

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no expiration date on egss/choco

golden armour g is nuts without feng shei thank god for pippin soonish

Yeah, they do make it easier, but they are not necessary. Two good healers is enough. Just be sure they are CC'ed and lvled no need for AW.

 

[khawk016]

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Yeah, they do make it easier, but they are not necessary. Two good healers is enough. Just be sure they are CC'ed and lvled no need for AW.

my aw 80 fedora couldent keep up with poison tick and enemies smacking them on anya/claudia both aw 40 another healer atleast will be needed without feng shei but im contempt with waiting for pippin or until i draw a feng shei so not to waste a ton of resources failing

 

[xaxs]

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my aw 80 fedora couldent keep up with poison tick and enemies smacking them on anya/claudia another healer atleast will be needed without feng shei but im contempt with waiting for pippin or until i draw a feng shei so not to waste a ton of resources failing

Want me to check if there is something you can do? I really don't have problems with two CC'ed healers. If you have strong enough other units it should be doable quite easily.

 

[khawk016]

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Want me to check if there is something you can do? I really don't have problems with two CC'ed healers. If you have strong enough other units it should be doable quite easily.

whats your setup for the map im pretty sure i have the units to copy it

 

[xaxs]

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whats your setup for the map im sure i have the units to copy it

Order is Katie (you can still place her even before armors show up, she won't engage them), Aria, Julian, Iris. Now you have to wait a bit for Katie's skill and then put duelist on A (~60lvl Claudia should be enough, on alt I use here Lyla).
Aria's skill on, and you have to quickly put prince on B (might be possible without Aria's skill). Healer on C (might be reversible with Julian skill and withdraw).

There are two ways from here. If you have AW Anya, you might need one more Julian to deploy before Iris. You put Anya on E and use her skill. Now look on left side. If you dont have AW Anya you want good witch on D and good duelist on E (it all depends on witch power). There is a possibility to use additional healer here if there will be a need. You keep your witch till plat armor is gone.

Now this shouldn't be a big problem.
Left side
Soon you will have soldiers skill, use it and withdraw (Katie can stay a bit longer if she is AWed). Now you want witch on F and mage on G. Replace Katie with HA or something that can tank at least 3 enemies. When you withdraw witch on right side you can deploy on H additional dps or healer.
Warning, if you put there dps you want to be wary against the very last cannoneer.


I hope this is somewhat understandable. If not just ask and I'll try to explain better.

Edit: I uploaded screenshot with end deployment. Yes, I know there is both Marr and Flamel, but on alt I have there Chydis and Bernice.