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By quests I meant trade missions. :(

Starting the missions costs 1k shards.

mm i'm not looking forward for that =\ i want to try and find most of the R evolutions for the shards before using any more crystals would be a waste to find them on the premium gatcha
 
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mm i'm not looking forward for that =\ i want to try and find most of the R evolutions for the shards before using any more crystals would be a waste to find them on the premium gatcha

If you wanna get the SR 1h sword then you have to. :(

On a side note, has anyone tried using the reduce defense skill on bosses to see if it made a significant damage difference?
 
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i wonder how equipment attributes works? are they % or just base? if you have a water staff +30 water and a neptune oracle +40 water will you have 70% water damage?

Even the guide isn't clear enough on this subject:

• If a Character's Attribute and the given Attribute are the same, the [Attribute Value Sum] is applied (Max Attribute Value is 100)
Eg: Fire 50 + Fire 30
• [Attack with Fire 80]

• If a Character's Attribute and the given Attribute are different, the [Attribute Strong Against Enemy] is applied
Eg: Fire 50 + Water 20
• [Against Wood Enemy - Attack with Fire 50]
• [Against Fire Enemy - Attack with Water 20]

I guess a % of the damage of your attack is considered of that element? So if you do 1000 normal damage , in the case you presented, 70% of it would be water damage , so 700 water damage which would be increased vs fire enemies?
Few notes:
-The % of attribute doesn't really matter.
-The increase in damage is around 50% (according to jp wiki)
-The decrease in damage is also around that.
-The game is fair and doesn't advantage the player or the environment. If it works a way around, it will work in the other way.

The elemental check order is the following:
Absorption > Advantage > Disadvantage > Neutral

Now, what does that means?
Let's say you are using a Margaret. Margaret, as a Thunder Character, is strong against Water (more damage dealt AND less damage taken) and weak against Earth (less damage dealt and more damage taken). She is also neutral against Dark, Light, Fire and Lightning.

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If you equip an Earth Element, you will be strong against Water and Lightning (more damage dealt AND less damage taken), and weak against Earth and fire (less damage dealt and more damage taken).

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However, if you have two opposed elements (fire/thunder, Earth/water), the "reduced" disappears from everywhere. If margaret equip a fire element, she will both deal and take more damage to and from water and earth. No more "reduced damage dealt" or "reduced damage taken" somewhere. You should be careful about that if you want to equip an element against a special ennemy. If the base element is wrong, you will still be very squishy, even if you are doing better damage.

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Light and Dark don't have this "reduced damage" aspect, and increase both damage dealt and taken. Equipping a light/dark element when you are dark/light just remove the neutrality to your own element, and increase both damage dealt and taken. In this aspect, it doesn't change anything from a fire or a water character equipping a Dark/light element.


Finally, the absorption. Some boss will absorb a specifical element. Since it's at the very top of priority, it means changing element doesn't matter, you will still heal him. Ever. Just change the character.

However, I'm not sure about how the whole thing works if you have a character using another element with a piece of elemental equipment (like Lily).
 
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thanks for the guide yeah i still have doubts on how it works when you equip another of the same attribute will you increase your damage or just do nothing? like Lily with oracle of neptune +40 water.
also what happens when you put the opposite of your element? like water deals more damage to fire and less for earth right? then you put fire to do more damage to earth your water will become weaker or no changes?
 
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Well your complaint is justified, I went to ask.

@Teppelin The devs just released a full list of characters but not all are available for now amongst girls there is : Meifan, Ferris, Kumipa, Souffle, Karue, Cattelya, Lily, Margaret, Veronica, Frezia, and Saya

That's what we can currently get, I'm glad I didn't spend all my crystals yet cus theres literally only like 2 good girls atm. He said what the devs did is went ahead and showed a full list of all the girls in the game guide but only released those listed for whatever reason. There is no way in hell they are going to refund every ones crystals but I could get behind them giving out a compensation for them being misleading showing that list and not at least throwing in a notice that not all are currently available or something.

Where can I see that list? If there are only those girls and not more it's not worth enough to do prem gacha atm.


@Keyen, thanks a lot for explaining attributes! Gonna read it now :D
 
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Few notes:
-The % of attribute doesn't really matter.
-The increase in damage is around 50% (according to jp wiki)
-The decrease in damage is also around that.
-The game is fair and doesn't advantage the player or the environment. If it works a way around, it will work in the other way.

So that means items like books which increase attribute are useless unless it's adding a new attribute?

Also another thing, when I fight vs Aguni who is fire type, My Schwartz who is using a wood weapon takes 1.5k-1.7k damage from his aoe every time. The same aoe only does around 300-400 to Shien who has nearly identical stats. 300-400 to 1.5-1.7k doesn't seem like 50%.
 
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Thank you very much for the explanation. This made it clear that those accessories will be extremely useful in fighting some certain bosses. For example, if you're fighting one of those Daily Thunder Bosses then you should equip your whole team with Wood Books.
 
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How long takes compatibility to rise from 2 to 3?
 
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How long takes compatibility to rise from 2 to 3?

I'd recommend having all 3 parties spamming the same mission if you wanna level them quick. You'll need probably 20-30 1h missions to get to 3.
 
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Holy shit, that many??? I suppose getting the SSR classes for the males from the trade missions will take a while then.
 
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Holy shit, that many??? I suppose getting the SSR classes for the males from the trade missions will take a while then.

I could be exaggerating a little. <.<

It took a while for me is all I know.
 
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Well, I'm doing 2h missions with best team. We will see, asked because getting it from 1 to 2 was surprisingly... lightning fast. At last got some gold so I can take my time.


Edit: arghh... didnt get rewards from helping in Echidna :/ And I'm almost done with lvling Margaret's job.
 
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So that means items like books which increase attribute are useless unless it's adding a new attribute?

Also another thing, when I fight vs Aguni who is fire type, My Schwartz who is using a wood weapon takes 1.5k-1.7k damage from his aoe every time. The same aoe only does around 300-400 to Shien who has nearly identical stats. 300-400 to 1.5-1.7k doesn't seem like 50%.

That may be before def.

I'm just saying what the jp wiki is saying.
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It may be an error from the wiki, a change from the nutaku version or an error from the translation.
 
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I really need to start spawning Leviathans myself to finishing maxing the UC class for Elio (8 more to go)... then I can finally roll that Mancha with peace of mind (14000 shards awaiting)... and after that I can finally have more than 1 team doing trades. I guess 3-4-4 is the best stage to hunt for Leviathans since it's the only gatekeeper that can spawn there. But on the other hand Noel's Gift 25 also spawns leviathans and is a better stage to farm. Oh well I guess I'll go with Noel's 25.
 
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That may be before def.

I'm just saying what the jp wiki is saying.
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It may be an error from the wiki, a change from the nutaku version or an error from the translation.

I was just curious because someone I talked to has an actual Wood unit with less def and my Schwartz takes even more damage than it does.
 
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I really need to start spawning Leviathans myself to finishing maxing the UC class for Elio (8 more to go)... then I can finally roll that Mancha with peace of mind (14000 shards awaiting)... and after that I can finally have more than 1 team doing trades. I guess 3-4-4 is the best stage to hunt for Leviathans since it's the only gatekeeper that can spawn there. But on the other hand Noel's Gift 25 also spawns leviathans and is a better stage to farm. Oh well I guess I'll go with Noel's 25.

14k shards? :O Wow... that's a lot ;o
 
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Hmm, it might've been a bug. I sent a ticket about it couples hours ago, and just now fought a couple Agunis, and Schwartz no longer gets 1 shot.

Around 600-700ish damage which would agree with the 50% increase.
 
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14k shards? :O Wow... that's a lot ;o

You can farm Shards easily if you spam Forbidden Chest Compartment 6 for a while. Especially using cookies.
 
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Seems like there is a bug. I just helped with Leviathan and got nothing again :/
 
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Yeah probably my Leviathan cause I also got nothing from it.
 
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