[Complete - Full] [RJ139385] Rune's Pharmacy
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Re: [RJ139385] Rune's Pharmacy
On RPGMaker Trans related questions:
1) Fields which aren't covered by RPGMaker Trans: This is one of the problems with the current architecture of RPGMaker Trans; it's "one-size fits all". What seemed like a good idea at the time I designed it a few years ago has become an Achilles heel as more and more games have gotten custom data structures. And adding the extra fields will cause a lot of harm on other games by filling the patch with stuff that doesn't need to be translated. The good news is that this will be fixed for RPGMaker Trans V5, which will allow selection of contexts by Regex's where it's necessary. Expect this to be released some time next month.
2) Ruby Scripts: The Ruby script parser is a bit broken - again a known issue. RPGMaker Trans V5 is going to be fixing this (by migrating to a parser from the Pygments library). I had originally planned to release a v4.4 with the new parser, but it turns out there's quite a few corner cases I need to sort out still and I want to change the file format so that script entries no longer have quotes etc (currently there can be issues when Scripts reference Labels), so I think it's probably best to hold off on this change until v5.
So, in summary: all of this is known issues. Wait until next month for RPGMaker Trans V5, and all should be fixed.
Oh, and incidentally, you could use the syntax for multiple translations for the same string to translate the Items command with RPGMaker Trans -
On RPGMaker Trans related questions:
1) Fields which aren't covered by RPGMaker Trans: This is one of the problems with the current architecture of RPGMaker Trans; it's "one-size fits all". What seemed like a good idea at the time I designed it a few years ago has become an Achilles heel as more and more games have gotten custom data structures. And adding the extra fields will cause a lot of harm on other games by filling the patch with stuff that doesn't need to be translated. The good news is that this will be fixed for RPGMaker Trans V5, which will allow selection of contexts by Regex's where it's necessary. Expect this to be released some time next month.
2) Ruby Scripts: The Ruby script parser is a bit broken - again a known issue. RPGMaker Trans V5 is going to be fixing this (by migrating to a parser from the Pygments library). I had originally planned to release a v4.4 with the new parser, but it turns out there's quite a few corner cases I need to sort out still and I want to change the file format so that script entries no longer have quotes etc (currently there can be issues when Scripts reference Labels), so I think it's probably best to hold off on this change until v5.
So, in summary: all of this is known issues. Wait until next month for RPGMaker Trans V5, and all should be fixed.
Oh, and incidentally, you could use the syntax for multiple translations for the same string to translate the Items command with RPGMaker Trans -
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. Set the required translation to "Item" and the other translations to "アイテム" as required.
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I know that's why I can't wait on this getting complete. I know it will take a while but it's worth waiting. You know of any more games like this with this style of art. In english
I know that's why I can't wait on this getting complete. I know it will take a while but it's worth waiting. You know of any more games like this with this style of art. In english
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I know this adds nothing to the translation topic, but neg repping is weird.
I was once neg repped for my opions regarding a disliked fetish.
The comment was "keep your opinions to yourself".
I know this adds nothing to the translation topic, but neg repping is weird.
I was once neg repped for my opions regarding a disliked fetish.
The comment was "keep your opinions to yourself".
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I've been neg-repped a few times. A couple of times during the argument I had over Rhode's Fortress, once for triple-posting (I wanted to make sure people knew what I was up to) and once for apparently making someone's "eyes bleed" because I wanted to address each item individually rather than as a block quote (which took a stupid amount of extra typing, but anyway) and once for actuallu being helpful.
Back to the matter at hand, I thought about trying to (at least) partial this... but I had a couple of things on my plate already. Happy to see someone do what I couldn't as I like the mechanics of this game as well as the art. Keep it up, hoofiewoofie, we're all rooting for you!
I've been neg-repped a few times. A couple of times during the argument I had over Rhode's Fortress, once for triple-posting (I wanted to make sure people knew what I was up to) and once for apparently making someone's "eyes bleed" because I wanted to address each item individually rather than as a block quote (which took a stupid amount of extra typing, but anyway) and once for actuallu being helpful.
Back to the matter at hand, I thought about trying to (at least) partial this... but I had a couple of things on my plate already. Happy to see someone do what I couldn't as I like the mechanics of this game as well as the art. Keep it up, hoofiewoofie, we're all rooting for you!
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Hey hoofiewoofie, just tried out the translation, looking pretty good, please keep up the good work, I'm really looking forward to it and this game definitely deserves a translation.
One question though, I was under the impression that you're building a rpgm-trans patch, but in your download I just find several of the same files provided by the update in the other thread. So what is it?
Hey hoofiewoofie, just tried out the translation, looking pretty good, please keep up the good work, I'm really looking forward to it and this game definitely deserves a translation.
One question though, I was under the impression that you're building a rpgm-trans patch, but in your download I just find several of the same files provided by the update in the other thread. So what is it?
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I don't know where you got that impression.
Although I would heartily endorse RPGMTrans, it's not without its own set of problems. Also (and more importantly) I think hoofiewoofie is more comfortable with the method he/she's using at the moment.
I don't know where you got that impression.
Although I would heartily endorse RPGMTrans, it's not without its own set of problems. Also (and more importantly) I think hoofiewoofie is more comfortable with the method he/she's using at the moment.
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I use RPGMTrans at my end in case the developer needs to update stuff, as you may have guessed. But the reason why I initially didn't give out the RPGMTrans patch itself is that several important parts of the game are inaccessible via RPGMTrans; instead I have to go into the rvdata files using RPGMaker itself to translate these directly. Which is super annoying -_-. In any case, the only practical way (not that I gave much thought for other options ) to distribute the translation is what I'm doing now.
If "update in the other thread" refers to Libellule's version, the difference is that mine is translated to english and the other is the original, untranslated patch from v1.0 to v1.09. (We're on 1.09 right now, right?)
Someone was worried that I might have dropped the translation project because I haven't been around for two weeks. It's just that dialogue is much denser than translating items here and there. Due to the subject content, updates for the translation will be much slower. Sorry for that.
I also have to finish the game so that I will actually know the context for the dialogue. For instance, I only recently realized that I translated the description of the "Ball" key item as "Slum boy's lost tapioca" instead of something more like "Slum boy Tapioca's lost ball" because I didn't know that Tapioca was a person. LOL. Similarly, one of the more major context problems that I still haven't found in the game is the quest from some Remmanu guy outside the brothel (I found the person but I think my corruption isn't high enough to get the quest yet). Until then, the quest info in the quest book is untranslated, sorry .
Since this got lost in my previous post, I'm putting it in bigger font.
What does 浴精回数 (in status sex experience) and ウィンドウ消去 (Press W key for... something) mean?
I use RPGMTrans at my end in case the developer needs to update stuff, as you may have guessed
. But the reason why I initially didn't give out the RPGMTrans patch itself is that several important parts of the game are inaccessible via RPGMTrans; instead I have to go into the rvdata files using RPGMaker itself to translate these directly. Which is super annoying -_-. In any case, the only practical way (not that I gave much thought for other options ) to distribute the translation is what I'm doing now.If "update in the other thread" refers to Libellule's version, the difference is that mine is translated to english and the other is the original, untranslated patch from v1.0 to v1.09
. (We're on 1.09 right now, right?)Someone was worried that I might have dropped the translation project because I haven't been around for two weeks. It's just that dialogue is much denser than translating items here and there. Due to the subject content, updates for the translation will be much slower. Sorry for that
.I also have to finish the game
so that I will actually know the context for the dialogue. For instance, I only recently realized that I translated the description of the "Ball" key item as "Slum boy's lost tapioca" instead of something more like "Slum boy Tapioca's lost ball" because I didn't know that Tapioca was a person. LOL. Similarly, one of the more major context problems that I still haven't found in the game is the quest from some Remmanu guy outside the brothel (I found the person but I think my corruption isn't high enough to get the quest yet). Until then, the quest info in the quest book is untranslated, sorry .Since this got lost in my previous post, I'm putting it in bigger font.
What does 浴精回数 (in status sex experience) and ウィンドウ消去 (Press W key for... something) mean?
Re: [RJ139385] Rune's Pharmacy
Bukkake count and close text window. Come on, those weren't even hard.
Bukkake count and close text window. Come on, those weren't even hard.
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Lol, my fail. I was panicking about the actual kanji themselves when I intuitively already knew what they were if I just stopped to think about it. Thanks!
Lol, my fail. I was panicking about the actual kanji themselves when I intuitively already knew what they were if I just stopped to think about it
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you really don't need to share the whole update package for the translations, you need the data/ folder, or even better if you knew exactly which files changed, you do only need to share those (and it also makes it less likely to break if another updates comes around).
The main game translation it self is indeed easier to share with the patch (rpgm-trans), even though the user has to apply that manually, is pretty more secure of screwing things over. (like mixing outdated files and etc)
If I remember correctly, Libellule himself told me about an application he used to differentiate between update and original game version. You could use this and run your translation version against the jap-last version and it should give exactly which files have been changed.
Either way, good to hear you're keeping up with the translation, Gambate.
Alright.... so really I think its easier to translate most of the game with rpgm-trans utility....I use RPGMTrans at my end in case the developer needs to update stuff, as you may have guessed
If "update in the other thread" refers to Libellule's version, the difference is that mine is translated to english and the other is the original, untranslated patch from v1.0 to v1.09
you really don't need to share the whole update package for the translations, you need the data/ folder, or even better if you knew exactly which files changed, you do only need to share those (and it also makes it less likely to break if another updates comes around).
The main game translation it self is indeed easier to share with the patch (rpgm-trans), even though the user has to apply that manually, is pretty more secure of screwing things over. (like mixing outdated files and etc)
If I remember correctly, Libellule himself told me about an application he used to differentiate between update and original game version. You could use this and run your translation version against the jap-last version and it should give exactly which files have been changed.
Either way, good to hear you're keeping up with the translation, Gambate.
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"Woohoo, I translated so much this time!! Let's go play the game now~~ . ... wait, it looks like I didn't do anything at all, did I patch it correctly? ... oh, I guess from farther away that wasn't really all that much... " ...anyone happen to have read the Phantom Tollbooth? Well, next time I'll stop avoiding translating the town since there's so much important stuff there, but it's just that... you know, there's a lot of stuff there.
I decided to follow Gfurst's advice to a small degree by supplying both the complete update/translation and the translation data folder itself, which is much simpler.
For this update, I realized that several of my battle system translations have the wrong subject/object relationship, and I never noticed b/c I usually skip combat messages. Anyone notice stuff like "Mandrake inflicted 280 damage to the enemy!" whenever you attack someone?
On another topic, my current translation for the name of this particular item is absolutely ridiculous. I'm hoping I just misinterpreted something. Anyone want to give it a shot?
Item: １０才からの酪農
Description: Book that teaches you recipes for Antera cheese, Minotaur Beef, and Breast Pumps.
"Woohoo, I translated so much this time!! Let's go play the game now~~
. ... wait, it looks like I didn't do anything at all, did I patch it correctly? ... oh, I guess from farther away that wasn't really all that much... " ...anyone happen to have read the Phantom Tollbooth? Well, next time I'll stop avoiding translating the town since there's so much important stuff there, but it's just that... you know, there's a lot of stuff there.I decided to follow Gfurst's advice to a small degree by supplying both the complete update/translation and the translation data folder itself, which is much simpler.
For this update, I realized that several of my battle system translations have the wrong subject/object relationship, and I never noticed b/c I usually skip combat messages
. Anyone notice stuff like "Mandrake inflicted 280 damage to the enemy!" whenever you attack someone? On another topic, my current translation for the name of this particular item is absolutely ridiculous. I'm hoping I just misinterpreted something. Anyone want to give it a shot?
Item: １０才からの酪農
Description: Book that teaches you recipes for Antera cheese, Minotaur Beef, and Breast Pumps.
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Thanks for the update This is one of the games I'm most excited for getting a full translation so take your time. I know it will take long but it will be worth it in the end.
Thanks for the update
This is one of the games I'm most excited for getting a full translation so take your time. I know it will take long but it will be worth it in the end. Deleted member 25079
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Quick question: How close is the translation to becoming a partial? (UI translation,status,quests (if it has) etc.)
Quick question: How close is the translation to becoming a partial? (UI translation,status,quests (if it has) etc.)
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It's pretty much done at the moment. There are just a few words here and there that I forgot to translate or couldn't figure out where to translate, and then the materials reference list which doesn't show the properties of the items. That last part won't get translated until the RPGMakerTrans update comes out hopefully. Speaking of which, I should check that...
It's pretty much done at the moment. There are just a few words here and there that I forgot to translate or couldn't figure out where to translate, and then the materials reference list which doesn't show the properties of the items. That last part won't get translated until the RPGMakerTrans update comes out hopefully. Speaking of which, I should check that...
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So i started playing and i noticed that the "title" or whatever it is after the character's name on status screen, some location and item names that appear when you get them are also extremely squished to the point they cannot be read. Maybe its due to the wierd font the game uses? Perhaps if there is a way to reverse it to the default of Ace it might not be squished. Or make the font size smaller on those names so it fits the "text" boxes?
So i started playing and i noticed that the "title" or whatever it is after the character's name on status screen, some location and item names that appear when you get them are also extremely squished to the point they cannot be read. Maybe its due to the wierd font the game uses? Perhaps if there is a way to reverse it to the default of Ace it might not be squished. Or make the font size smaller on those names so it fits the "text" boxes?
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Yeah... the text shrinks when there are too many characters to display within a defined width. I haven't found any workarounds except to decrease the text content, which is not always practical. Have any other translators found better solutions for this?
Yeah... the text shrinks when there are too many characters to display within a defined width. I haven't found any workarounds except to decrease the text content, which is not always practical. Have any other translators found better solutions for this?