RPG RPG Maker [さーくる亀 / CircleKAME] F4 -Fatal Fate, and a Final Fist (RJ165444)

[Lucy Heartfillia]

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somehow devs not only dissapeared but also has no posts since 1 jan 2016 and no updates on dl blog either.

 

[Deleted member 166393]

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Yeah his last twitter post was 51 days ago translated to Drilling, messu whatever that means

 

[AExMachina]

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somehow devs not only dissapeared but also has no posts since 1 jan 2016 and no updates on dl blog either.

Isn't that business as usual for KAME? Now we'll just have to wait like 6 months and then he'll ambush us with F4++++ version. That's the best case scenario, anyways.

 

[chronoex]

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somehow devs not only dissapeared but also has no posts since 1 jan 2016 and no updates on dl blog either.

It's only been a month and a half. We can start worrying after a year has passed with no activity from them.

On another note, apparently there are people in this forum that will defend this circle (albeit in a passive-aggressive way)? Got derepped for a sarcastic remark a few months back (something about being a fag who don't pay for anything), and didn't notice it until now. Just find it kind of amusing.

 

[Ne0n]

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It's only been a month and a half. We can start worrying after a year has passed with no activity from them.

On another note, apparently there are people in this forum that will defend this circle (albeit in a passive-aggressive way)? Got derepped for a sarcastic remark a few months back (something about being a fag who don't pay for anything), and didn't notice it until now. Just find it kind of amusing.

well I payed for it and I'm still disappointed with the lack of content, but then again, I bought it knowing this circles history.
That is funny though.

 

[Lucy Heartfillia]

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they should take example from 2990 circle, they are working hard on their new game.

 

[USE]

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they should take example from 2990 circle, they are working hard on their new game.

why 2990 circle though? there are many creators working hard on their games

 

[Dimly Lit Hamster]

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Problem with these guys is (and it's something they've discussed themselves in the comments section), They got pretty popular pretty fast, people started demanding games come out sooner and with more content.

They made the choice to try to get them out faster when Arms Devicer came out, but the original version of that barely had that many scenes either, it also started the whole "+" version trend.

Honestly, I'd prefer if they took their time and released a full game but I also see that they're in one hell of a shitty situation with demand from fans. In fact I think they closed the comment section because of that.

 

[Dideldidum]

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Problem with these guys is (and it's something they've discussed themselves in the comments section), They got pretty popular pretty fast, people started demanding games come out sooner and with more content.

Noone releases games because their fans demand it, but because they need money. Their games are getting more complex and way faster than their programmer can handle it (compare it to shoku for example, way less innovation but steady and therefore 1 release per year and quite few bugfixes).
10 Patches in about 2 months for F4 -Fatal Fate，and a Final Fist and all of those bugfixes for a very incomplete game.

 

[duck666]

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Noone releases games because their fans demand it, but because they need money. Their games are getting more complex and way faster than their programmer can handle it (compare it to shoku for example, way less innovation but steady and therefore 1 release per year and quite few bugfixes).
10 Patches in about 2 months for F4 -Fatal Fate，and a Final Fist and all of those bugfixes for a very incomplete game.

I think my biggest issue with this circle is that their recent games all feel incomplete.

My second would probably be the buggy-ness of their games.

 

[Jeb!]

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I think my biggest issue with this circle is that their recent games all feel incomplete.

My second would probably be the buggy-ness of their games.

It's a game with 12-15+ hours gameplay and the price seems pretty low for such a huge game. Sure there are not many scenes and this game is more like a enhanced demo (with only story and no real hscenes).

If you are that unhappy with the game you should have asked DLsite for a refund. The + version of this game will be awsome though so i would just wait a bit longer.
I rather play a half finished game and then get my update 6 months afterwards than wait 6 months longer for the complete release. This is also a great way for him to fix bugs and betatest the game.

 

[duck666]

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It's a game with 12-15+ hours gameplay and the price seems pretty low for such a huge game. Sure there are not many scenes and this game is more like a enhanced demo (with only story and no real hscenes).

If you are that unhappy with the game you should have asked DLsite for a refund. The + version of this game will be awsome though so i would just wait a bit longer.
I rather play a half finished game and then get my update 6 months afterwards than wait 6 months longer for the complete release. This is also a great way for him to fix bugs and betatest the game.

I'm happy with the game's content and playing style. I myself had over 40 hours in the game.

But that in no way indicates that I'm satisfied with the game's completeness.


Example of it for this game:

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Chapter 1 was really long and had a story-feeling to it. It had quite a few quests and it felt like the story was supposed to go somewhere. Some characters were slightly built upon - such as with cloud and yuna.

Chapter 2 was literally just a really short click the bed and see CGs.

Chapter 3 could have brought is all together. It gave you a blimp to do all sorts of side quest and go anywhere you want. But the side quests felt compelling and a few felt like they were going to lead into other small events - yet didn't happen. Yuna and cloud didn't get further development with you other than just their ending - which cloud doesn't even have one.


Overall, there's just so much potential that they dangled in front of you, then just deflated it all without giving any closure.

Furthermore, this game is sufficiently debugged to play and enjoy. That doesn't mean there doesn't exist bugs (such as crash bugs and image issues) which still piss me off when I see it.

 

[lazycat]

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Overall, there's just so much potential that they dangled in front of you, then just deflated it all without giving any closure.

Well I learned THAT lesson PF IF

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In demo with some random chance you could get Lana (the blue hair) pregnant, in full game the only way she'd get pregnant is in the bad ends.

There was so much potentials, but at some point the author seem to have given up and say fuck it and rush everything.

Arms Devicer also had some hint of it with certain routes being strangely structured (like the friends route only having scene with the church and even then the ending of that route is you defeating the church bad guy)

 

[Deleted member 166393]

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I think they did say when IF was released it was a live beta or some such thing, somebody correct me if I'm wrong here but it's really no excuse for they way they run the way they do.

 

[duck666]

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Well I learned THAT lesson PF IF

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In demo with some random chance you could get Lana (the blue hair) pregnant, in full game the only way she'd get pregnant is in the bad ends.

There was so much potentials, but at some point the author seem to have given up and say fuck it and rush everything.

Arms Devicer also had some hint of it with certain routes being strangely structured (like the friends route only having scene with the church and even then the ending of that route is you defeating the church bad guy)

Well, yes. So did I, but I was hoping they'd change.

I think they did say when IF was released it was a live beta or some such thing, somebody correct me if I'm wrong here but it's really no excuse for they way they run the way they do.

Really? I thought what they said was that it was intended to be a smaller spin off game that got super big because of the new system they were experimenting with - which got popular - thus, they added content, but never finished adding everything before moving onto the next thing because they weren't getting any more sales.

 

[Torgent]

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I think they did say when IF was released it was a live beta or some such thing, somebody correct me if I'm wrong here but it's really no excuse for they way they run the way they do.

Wasn't the live beta thing the one with the dark skinned chick they released between F4 and IF?

 

[Diego]

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Wasn't the live beta thing the one with the dark skinned chick they released between F4 and IF?

I think that was just a small side project they worked on while developing this game.

 

[Teaz]

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Oh hey, have anyone check their latest tweet? They said

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nothing. They must be dead already.

Isn't that sweet?

 

[lazycat]

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Oh hey, have anyone check their latest tweet? They said

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nothing. They must be dead already.

Isn't that sweet?

It's 'only' 2 months, I've seen longer period of silence.

 

[Teaz]

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Yeah, I know...

Who could forget the hiatus period between PF IF and PF IF+? Been month without any news, and all of a sudden, BAM, a new and more complete (albeit still incomplete) Parallel Fantasy IF.

Wish they won't mess this one up this time...

P.S. : Anyone have any idea who Evard is?