RPG NTR [スケイルガーデン] [Scale Garden] ピンクスレイブ / Pink Slave (RJ264956)

[kR1pt0n1t3]

Actually, after this game I wouldn't mind if he goes full sprite work as long as it's at this quality or greater. But I would definitely like for him to do 2 things if he does so:
1 - Allow you to adjust speed during sex.
2 - Don't just restrict cumming to sex. She can give certain guys BJs in game....but there's no way (that I found) for them to come from it.
3- (cause I just thought this one up) Take full advantage of the situations he set up. No sitting BJ, no paizuri at all, only one person with sex on couch, no sleep sex, no shower sex, no wrestling turned sex match....

I think with a bit tinkering through scripts that it would be possible for me to add those functions.
I'll have a look next weekend and see if it's possible.

 

[unknowntosociety]

I really don't understand how to win the fights. I've saved the game where MC has her first fight (which I'd assume is supposed to be the easiest fight in the game) and I've kicked, punched and body-slammed her opponent like 20 times and did submission moves but they always kick out of a pin. I know I'm doing something wrong but it's really hard to pinpoint what.

 

[Kuro]

I really don't understand how to win the fights. I've saved the game where MC has her first fight (which I'd assume is supposed to be the easiest fight in the game) and I've kicked, punched and body-slammed her opponent like 20 times and did submission moves but they always kick out of a pin. I know I'm doing something wrong but it's really hard to pinpoint what.

What I understood is that you can also deal a certain amount of damage to KO them and vice versa. When you perform throws try instead to follow up with one of the two techniques (default key Z or C) that reduces their stats. This can help to lower either their attack powers, hit rates, guard, or motivation (up and down arrow to choose which, right arrow to fast forward) to make things easier. Note that the throw has a cooldown so you need to mix it up with punches & kicks or running away. After a few times they should go down.
I believe lowering the motivation stat makes them less likely to resist but I'm still not sure entirely how the Heat Gauge on the lower right works though. It increases each time we attack but so far I try not to let it fill up to maximum each time.

Once you got the hang of it you can try repeating that fight to gain some experience and level up if you like. Make sure you remember to heal up at the doctor's place afterwards.

 

[unknowntosociety]

What I understood is that you can also deal a certain amount of damage to KO them and vice versa. When you perform throws try instead to follow up with one of the two techniques (default key Z or C) that reduces their stats. This can help to lower either their attack powers, hit rates, guard, or motivation (up and down arrow to choose which, right arrow to fast forward) to make things easier. Note that the throw has a cooldown so you need to mix it up with punches & kicks or running away. After a few times they should go down.
I believe lowering the motivation stat makes them less likely to resist but I'm still not sure entirely how the Heat Gauge on the lower right works though. It increases each time we attack but so far I try not to let it fill up to maximum each time.

Once you got the hang of it you can try repeating that fight to gain some experience and level up if you like. Make sure you remember to heal up at the doctor's place afterwards.

Yes what you're referring to are submission moves (when you slam them on the ground and press 'Z') but those don't help me at all because it's really hard to avoid the opponent's moves for a long period of time without getting body-slammed and it only takes one body slam to kill me usually. I'm aware that the doctor helps you heal but it only heals the damage dealt by submission moves.

 

[KHTA]

Yes what you're referring to are submission moves (when you slam them on the ground and press 'Z') but those don't help me at all because it's really hard to avoid the opponent's moves for a long period of time without getting body-slammed and it only takes one body slam to kill me usually. I'm aware that the doctor helps you heal but it only heals the damage dealt by submission moves.

1. Submission moves are the key to victory. Start by lowering the power of both hands until the point where she no longer even does damage to you, you don't have to worry about accuracy.
2. Press C after slamming them and focus on motivation. Guard can help if your attacks are barely doing damage but motivation is the main focus.
3. When you use regular attacks, be mindful of your heat. If it hits 100% they will start countering your attacks and I think that 50%+ you guard less.
4. Take advantage of combos. If you land them, it deals additional damage which a lot of times will knock them down or get them closer to a knock down so you can use a submission move without wasting your throw.
5. Don't bother trying to pin. Do not bother trying to pin. This is important so I said it twice. It's much easier to go for a knock out through damage or tap out from lowering their motivation.
6. Make a separate save file before attempting to fight and do not touch that save file. If you get to the point where you've taken too much damage and can't go back home to rest.... you'll need that file to start fresh. If you've already saved with a ton of damage on you.....well your only options is hope you can do enough damage to get a knock out or start over.

 

[Hworang]

is there a way to remove or move out of the way, this penetration thing?

 

[kR1pt0n1t3]

is there a way to remove or move out of the way, this penetration thing?

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and copy it inside the root game folder and press overwrite when asked.

With this (if I didn't miss any other picture) should now make the piston not appear during h-scenes. I left the pictures for the pink rotor so that should appear as it is.

NOTE: If you don't backup the files before you overwrite, you will have to download all the files from the first link + updates if you want to get it back.

 

[iamnuff]

So Z and X punch (left/right) C kicks. S throws.
Throw when you can, punch while waiting for throw to recharge.
I sorta get that.

How do I lower heat though? Running around the ring trying to avoid them doesn't really work.
I hit 100% heat very quickly and then they just auto-counter everything.

Edit: Redoing old fights in the underground ring for exp is very helpful, as is visiting the hospital in the skyscraper to recover after each bout.

 

[MrMarroc]

For those worried about heat:

Heat builds up when your opponent blocks attacks. Once the heat meter is full, they will begin to counter your attacks with their own combos, often knocking you down, or out.
To lower the bar, the only method I have found is to throw them/submission hold them. Whether the bars amount itself is related to how long the hold goes on for I dont know, but that was always my method of lowering that bar in particular.

Im still trying to figure out endings, as after the final "must win" fight, Ive only ever gotten the one ending.

 

[ryu7432]

1. Submission moves are the key to victory. Start by lowering the power of both hands until the point where she no longer even does damage to you, you don't have to worry about accuracy.
2. Press C after slamming them and focus on motivation. Guard can help if your attacks are barely doing damage but motivation is the main focus.
3. When you use regular attacks, be mindful of your heat. If it hits 100% they will start countering your attacks and I think that 50%+ you guard less.
4. Take advantage of combos. If you land them, it deals additional damage which a lot of times will knock them down or get them closer to a knock down so you can use a submission move without wasting your throw.
5. Don't bother trying to pin. Do not bother trying to pin. This is important so I said it twice. It's much easier to go for a knock out through damage or tap out from lowering their motivation.
6. Make a separate save file before attempting to fight and do not touch that save file. If you get to the point where you've taken too much damage and can't go back home to rest.... you'll need that file to start fresh. If you've already saved with a ton of damage on you.....well your only options is hope you can do enough damage to get a knock out or start over.

I disagree with the motivation approach. If you are wanting to gain more exp from the opponent in the repeat matches later, you'll find yourself constantly winning the matches after extracting 0-5 stats from one grapple. That made things infuriating when I needed to beat the final match at level 22 and kept getting KO'd after about 3 hits or so. Pinning the opponent is probably the better option to save the future headaches later. I'm actually on a second play through using this strategy, and I'm finding the current story matches easier being level 44 (I haven't reached the last match yet, but I've been extracting exp from every opponent as I go saving motivation for last).

So Z and X punch (left/right) C kicks. S throws.
Throw when you can, punch while waiting for throw to recharge.
I sorta get that.

How do I lower heat though? Running around the ring trying to avoid them doesn't really work.
I hit 100% heat very quickly and then they just auto-counter everything.

Edit: Redoing old fights in the underground ring for exp is very helpful, as is visiting the hospital in the skyscraper to recover after each bout.

For those worried about heat:

Heat builds up when your opponent blocks attacks. Once the heat meter is full, they will begin to counter your attacks with their own combos, often knocking you down, or out.
To lower the bar, the only method I have found is to throw them/submission hold them. Whether the bars amount itself is related to how long the hold goes on for I dont know, but that was always my method of lowering that bar in particular.

Im still trying to figure out endings, as after the final "must win" fight, Ive only ever gotten the one ending.

The heat bar decreases over time and when you take damage. Throwing is a good way to let it decrease on its own. On the flip side, if the opponent is trigger happy with her punches and kicks, you can also see a counter prompt from time to time.
Honestly, I think there's only one ending you can get since you're required to win the last match and she becomes so NTR'd by the end of it. There's not a lot of choices for any kind of variation to the story.

 

[onee-chan]

From a technical point of view this is an excellent game (there's a lot of RPGMV games that are lazily put together with 0 effort to make it have it's own uniqueness) and while Scalegarden's code quality isn't the best (seriously go and look through the older game's source code), I'm glad if this game pays off from him since definitely nailed extending RPGMaker MV far beyond the intended gamestyle.
The issue I got for the most part is this really weird pacing the game has, the girl goes from innocent little flower to cumslut 3000 in a matter of minutes (compared to the older games where there was a very slow progress which I personally liked).
The CG is pretty eh, I'm honestly more grossed out by the juggernaut boobs than her face (Game 4 helped teaching me to to tolerate the art).
Also not a fan of the fighting mini-game since the default controls are hella wacky (why not have QWER or ZXCV?) and overall the feeling is kinda... wonky.

I do hope his future games that will most likely use this engine (given that's what happen with Game 2-4), will improve and try a more slow paced game and not make it a auto-complete game with some wacky mini-game requirements.

 

[kR1pt0n1t3]

The girl was close to cumslut from the get-go. She was trained by Thomas in "sexual ways" (it wasn't said exactly how but it was said that they did everything but have sex) so she would not be embarrassed as the Pink Slave while she wore that costume and was fighting in the ring half-naked. Did you even read the story? She even says to Thomas that she's not satisfied with the sex she has with Haruo and that her sexual desire was getting stronger and stronger lately. This all, in turn, explains why she was like that... After Thomas died and she ended up having sex with George throughout the whole night, she realized how good sex could be. Then as the story progressed, she was basically "forced" to sleep with Tomio and do all those other things by the powerful people behind the whole Arena thing. Not that she really minded doing any of them.

 

[onee-chan]

The girl was close to cumslut from the get-go. She was trained by Thomas in "sexual ways" (it wasn't said exactly how but it was said that they did everything but have sex) so she would not be embarrassed as the Pink Slave while she wore that costume and was fighting in the ring half-naked. Did you even read the story? She even says to Thomas that she's not satisfied with the sex she has with Haruo and that her sexual desire was getting stronger and stronger lately. This all, in turn, explains why she was like that... After Thomas died and she ended up having sex with George throughout the whole night, she realized how good sex could be. Then as the story progressed, she was basically "forced" to sleep with Tomio and do all those other things by the powerful people behind the whole Arena thing. Not that she really minded doing any of them.

Yeah I did try my best to follow the story, my problem isn't how she was in the past/right now, let me rephrase it: the issue was that there was almost no barriers she had to break to become a cumslut (i.e. fighting her past with the present "innocent" life), no moral dilemma, no 'current' lifestyle conflicting with her past and it felt more like we were dropped into the middle of a typical "from pure to slut" story, I know NTR doesn't necessarily have to follow the pure to slut cliché, but I think at least have some character development before we get to see her "true" side.

And especially since his previous game had more or less the same conclusion to the main character (she likes sex and got trained by the pervert to like it), this time around the girl feels much more watered down.

 

[kR1pt0n1t3]

Since she's a "cumslut" from the get-go, why would she have big moral dilemmas? She did object becoming Marcus's mistress and then later agreed to be photographed naked by George who then went to Marcus and showed him naked pictures and told him how everyone at the factory had few of them. She did all that just so the pictures Marcus had from Thomas would lose their value and he couldn't threaten her any more. And, later when Marcus came to hear the answer from Reiko, she agreed to let him play with her tits just so he wouldn't show the pictures to Haruo and later for no other reason than because she wanted it, she agreed to have sex with him for one night. Although, she pretended it was because she wanted to get rid of Marcus once and for all but in reality, something awoke in her as another man was squeezing and playing with her breasts.

Basically, how I got the story was that Reiko was not true to her feelings at the start of the game. She denied herself want she wanted (which is been seen naked by other men and have sex with them) so she could be with Haruo. As the game progressed, she became more and more true to her feelings, especially ever since she had sex with George for the first time at the love hotel.

I get what you're saying, I just don't see your point. You don't "like" the game because the author didn't make the main character's personality and NTR the way you like it.

 

[unknowntosociety]

I get what you're saying, I just don't see your point. You don't "like" the game because the author didn't make the main character's personality and NTR the way you like it.

Umm... He was mainly criticizing the pacing of the game, not necessarily the character design. I don't see anything wrong with his gripe.

 

[kR1pt0n1t3]

Umm... He was mainly criticizing the pacing of the game, not necessarily the character design. I don't see anything wrong with his gripe.

Yes, as he said in his comment the issue he has is: the girl goes from innocent little flower to cumslut 3000 in a matter of minutes and the issue was that there was almost no barriers she had to break to become a cumslut to which I tried to respond by saying something along these lines: How can you expect a "slow pacing"/"slow turning from innocent to cumslut" from a character that's a "cumslut" from the get-go?

The issue he has, in my opinion, is directly related to the character itself. You can't expect a slow corrupting NTR from a game that has a main character that's already corrupted/cumslut. I don't see how that would be possible. This could only happen if she was somehow pretending to be innocent but here clearly that's not the case.

This is my opinion and you might have some other opinion as he has. All I was trying is to give arguments as to why I think his statement might not necessarily be true. Some of you might disagree that she was corrupted from the get-go. From what I've understood reading and playing the game, she already was corrupted by Thomas from the start, but she never crossed the line of having sex with other men because of Haruo and because Thomas never asked that of her, but Thomas did tell her to walk naked on the beach, take clothes off around other men, massage her boobs, take all kinds of pictures of her, etc... From the conversations she had with Thomas and later with George, it was pretty clear (at least to me) that she wanted something more (that she was not satisfied). After Thomas died and later George took photos of her naked on the beach to make Marcus lose his bargaining chip, something awoke inside of her and she decided to accept her true feelings and cross the line she never did before. She decided to accept her true self and that's why she agreed to have sex with Marcus in the first place. After this, the h-scenes just steamroll one after another and she has sex with most of the NPCs in the game.

I do think that the game as a whole is fast-paced and you play through it very fast, especially if you know what you're doing. But, as I understood from his comments, this was not his main issue. He specifically said his issue was the pacing of corruption/lack thereof.

And don't take this comment the wrong way. I'm not trying to start a heated debate or attack him in any way. I'm just way too over-analyzing a porn game that I waited 5 years to be released.

 

[Cleanfeel]

It's a bad game. Don't understand why Scale Garden don't just keep improving on his existing formula. This new one is weak, sadly.

 

[kR1pt0n1t3]

It's a bad game. Don't understand why Scale Garden don't just keep improving on his existing formula. This new one is weak, sadly.

Neither do I.
I guess he got tired of doing the same thing and wanted to try something different and new, hence why this one isn't really an RPG.

I think, for me personally, this game would've been 10/10 if he only stuck to the old CG style.
The story could've been a bit different as some pointed out, but I don't mind the story at all.

 

[KHTA]

It's a bad game. Don't understand why Scale Garden don't just keep improving on his existing formula. This new one is weak, sadly.

Gonna have to disagree. It is not a bad game in any stretch of the imagination. It's simply a bad release from Scale Garden. If this was made by a different dev, I'm almost certain it would have been received much more positively. A number of things we come to expect from a Scale Garden release isn't here such as NTR pacing, focus on breast groping, etc and there was a lot of gripe over MC's design even if it's no where near as bad as designs from other games....and while I too was disappointed in the game, it is a highly decent game. However, the sprite work was actually really good even if a lot of potential was left out and though it has it's problems....I feel the combat could be perfect for a BF themed game.

In all, it was a failed venture from Scale Garden in my opinion but definitely not a bad one, a whole lot could be learned from this game. And whether he stays on this path or goes back to what he knows.... I think their next game will benefit greatly from this experience.......about 5-10 years from now.

 

[kR1pt0n1t3]

In all, it was a failed venture from Scale Garden in my opinion but definitely not a bad one, a whole lot could be learned from this game. And whether he stays on this path or goes back to what he knows.... I think their next game will benefit greatly from this experience.......about 5-10 years from now.

Don't jinx it. He's probably going to release an update soon, add new content, change all the CG's, improve the story and such.

Why do you think it took him 5 years for this?
The game uses a really original way of doing things and all that, but there's no way that it took him 5 years to write these 10-15 small scripts for the system.
Even if I was really generous and said it took him 1 year just for the scripts, could really doing CG, pixel art and writing/coding events and the story took him 4 years?
It could be because of all the new programs he used for pixel art and other stuff that he never worked in before.

I think you're right that experience from this game will help him a lot but I don't think it will take him that much time for the next game. I think he's gonna release it much sooner than we think.
For all we know, he might have been working on another project for the last two years parallel with this one.