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The only thing I regret is that our political class are complete and utter wankers incapable of organising a piss up in a brewery.

First we had Dave 'pig fucker' Cameron's cons that never expected Brexit to win and so never made plans for if it did win, and neither did liebour. Lib dems were a complete non-factor as usual.
Boris 'I'm a giant clown' Johnson is put in charge of the euro-skeptic cons so as to ensure the leave campaign is a mockery, he immediately steps down when he accidently wins after Pig Fucker rage quits and puts Remainer Theresa 'Lead Lady' May in charge.

The Lead Lady having no clue how to handle leaving and no desire to leave, and having all the personality of a plank of wood, completely arses up the initial negotiations. Decides to call an early general election because she somehow thinks the cons will be able to ride on the back of the leave result - this completely backfires and the Con majority gets devastated, but thanks to our crap outdated election system that prevents any smaller parties gaining seats, yet manages to hold enough seats to remain in power but still have to form a coalition.

But the biggest wanker of them all award needs to go to Nigel 'Oh fuck there goes my gravy train' Farage, who steps down practically as soon as the brexit result is announced and realises he might actually need to do some work now.

So we have:
-The two main leaders of the leave campaign step down imediatly
-The Prime Minister of the incumbent government steps down and puts someone who was against the result in the charge
-She arses everything up

And all this creates enough chaos and doubt for Soros and friends to start a stock market scare in order to torpedo our economy.
Burn the fucking thing to the ground. Easier said than done? Yup, but you [citizens] allowed for this, don't expect it will solve itself, you will have to stand up and say: No.
Y'all should arm yourselves and perform a good old fashioned hostile takeover. Who cares if you don't know how to run a government, you're bound to do a better job than people that do and are actively trying to make it fail.
Statistically, in such large number of people, there must be more than few who would know how to do things or be able to learn fast enough. Proper leaders always emerge from the crowd. So yeah, this ^
 

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Statistically, in such large number of people, there must be more than few who would know how to do things or be able to learn fast enough. Proper leaders always emerge from the crowd. So yeah, this ^
I mean, the US has a reality TV star running shit, and he's not doing too bad of a job. Granted, the opposition seems to have a boner for Putin and them Russian's, so he's not exactly having to deal with the most aggressive or competent push-back.
 

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Hasn't the US had a thing for Russia since WW1, really? :whistle:

News-ish add-on: California and Ontario are on fire again, no links because kinda eh at this point...
 

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Hasn't the US had a thing for Russia since WW1, really? :whistle:

News-ish add-on: California and Ontario are on fire again, no links because kinda eh at this point...
WWII-ish, and it was mostly Freddy Roosevelt being chums with Stalin and it gets really complicated at that point. Also,Freddy shitting on Churchill for the lulz for brownie points with Stalin. Funny fact: Russia was the real power behind the end of WWII with their "scorched Earth" policy on withdrawing from their "key checkpoints."

Also, not really news. That's been ongoing for MONTHS.
 

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Google translate makes it really hard to read, each sentence is a damn mystery to be solved...
1. UK would be doing fine with leaving EU, but apparently Theresa May decided to fuck brits in every possible way while literally kneeling before EU. Why that woman is still in the office?
2. ~10 years late, but as they say: Better late than never.
3. Of course there is nothing, they took it back to drawing board less than a month ago. And it doesn't matter what they will come up with as whole idea is flawed from the start. Too many people and companies are going hard against this.
Right now there are two options:
- It's never coming back from drawing board
- Whatever new shit they will propose will still be shit and won't make it.
I also add that they think European elections, another 'stupid and will have no seat, so many surrender to the deputy Julia Reda and the European people, Google & Co. But more probalile is the lack of time. Do not you agree?
 

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I also add that they think European elections, another 'stupid and will have no seat, so many surrender to the deputy Julia Reda and the European people, Google & Co. But more probalile is the lack of time. Do not you agree?
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Only sentence that makes any fucking sense is: "do not you agree?" and it still sounds like a drunk yoda. Taking into account that you made a typo, I am questioning google translate approach.
I am sorry (not really), but this incoherent mess is hard to understand so I am not exactly sure wtf are you talking about.
 

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???
Only sentence that makes any fucking sense is: "do not you agree?" and it still sounds like a drunk yoda. Taking into account that you made a typo, I am questioning google translate approach.
I am sorry (not really), but this incoherent mess is hard to understand so I am not exactly sure wtf are you talking about.
Sorry my english is not perfect, I use google translator.

I mean, the Eurocrats have in mind the European elections, so they know if they're doing the same thing or worse, WE DO NOT VOTE !!!
 

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Sorry my english is not perfect, I use google translator.

I mean, the Eurocrats have in mind the European elections, so they know if they're doing the same thing or worse, WE DO NOT VOTE !!!
That's the dumbest idea anyone could have in such case. By not voting, you are disabling an ability to influence things and reducing needed votes for whatever is in the opposite.
This is how you let opposition win, how hard it is to understand? Find a candidate that is worth giving a vote or has at least 60% of similar views to yours, as it's not possible to find candidate matching 100%.

No vote - no whining privilege - you helped win whoever you are against. Fucking rebellious phase should be over for people 18+, but it doesn't seem like it's the case. Don't be a fucking moron.
 

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That's the dumbest idea anyone could have in such case. By not voting, you are disabling an ability to influence things and reducing needed votes for whatever is in the opposite.
This is how you let opposition win, how hard it is to understand? Find a candidate that is worth giving a vote or has at least 60% of similar views to yours, as it's not possible to find candidate matching 100%.

No vote - no whining privilege - you helped win whoever you are against. Fucking rebellious phase should be over for people 18+, but it doesn't seem like it's the case. Don't be a fucking moron.
I expressed myself badly again.
It's not about not going to vote, because you're right would not change anything like that, but not to vote for those parties that have ruined Europe for 20 years, soon win the euroscetic parties and the pirate party, modern people, fresh with ideas innovative, no old dinosaurs who did not understand what era we live in, I mean this.
 

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I expressed myself badly again.
It's not about not going to vote, because you're right would not change anything like that, but not to vote for those parties that have ruined Europe for 20 years, soon win the euroscetic parties and the pirate party, modern people, fresh with ideas innovative, no old dinosaurs who did not understand what era we live in, I mean this.
The issue is people voted for those candidates for the supposed 20 years you claim, so there isn't really anyone to blame except those who picked those candidates. I also think it's an easy trap (one I'll admit falling into now and then) to misconstrue that everyone's politics are black and white. Being the dense, high-functioning retard I was/am, I was excited to see Obama get two terms cause "muh equal rights" and shit. In the aftermath, with all his shady shit coming out and the Soros conspiracy shit floating around, I started re-thinking my position. Most people don't have that kind of awareness, to actively seek out information that contradicts their long-held views or challenges them in some way. It's scary, and difficult to start with.

...and that's how you get "old dinosaurs" running things, or "new age" idiots in power. Or TV/movie stars with little to no political experience. Because people will often look to have their views re-affirmed without considering the consequences. That said, I'm contradicting myself a bit when I say Trump was a push-back against the current political climate of "you're a nazi" for opposing the PC culture.
 

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The issue is people voted for those candidates for the supposed 20 years you claim, so there isn't really anyone to blame except those who picked those candidates. I also think it's an easy trap (one I'll admit falling into now and then) to misconstrue that everyone's politics are black and white. Being the dense, high-functioning retard I was/am, I was excited to see Obama get two terms cause "muh equal rights" and shit. In the aftermath, with all his shady shit coming out and the Soros conspiracy shit floating around, I started re-thinking my position. Most people don't have that kind of awareness, to actively seek out information that contradicts their long-held views or challenges them in some way. It's scary, and difficult to start with.

...and that's how you get "old dinosaurs" running things, or "new age" idiots in power. Or TV/movie stars with little to no political experience. Because people will often look to have their views re-affirmed without considering the consequences. That said, I'm contradicting myself a bit when I say Trump was a push-back against the current political climate of "you're a nazi" for opposing the PC culture.
I say that the people of Europe will think twice about who to vote, not only for the latest filth of copyright (this was only the drop that decanted the vase) but for constant errors of the Eurocrats without thinking about the European popular consequences, you have a broken turntable? that keeps repeating the same stuff? here is the comparison as it is now EU, a broken turntable that always repeats the same stuff, ie errors errors errors to infinity, the worst do not realize it or do it in bad faith.
 

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I say that the people of Europe will think twice about who to vote,
No they won't.
constant errors of the Eurocrats without thinking about the European popular consequences, you have a broken turntable? that keeps repeating the same stuff? here is the comparison as it is now EU, a broken turntable that always repeats the same stuff, ie errors errors errors to infinity, the worst do not realize it or do it in bad faith.
Oh boy, it's like people thought twice before voting.

But no, reality is how it is. There are trends and they didn't change much so far. Sorry to burst your bubble, but this broken turntable is going to spin for some more time until new generation shows up... Issue is, they don't have as many numbers.
 

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Because people are not allowed to vote for the EU straight up, and instead these EU politicians are assigned by other votes that do not usually have anything to do with the EU, the EU parliament does not mean anything whatsoever. It's by its nature an undemocratic institution that only pretends to be democratic for propaganda purposes


But in other news
Space!


A planet over 12 times bigger than Jupiter has been found drifting alone through space around 20 light years away from Earth.
 

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Because people are not allowed to vote for the EU straight up, and instead these EU politicians are assigned by other votes that do not usually have anything to do with the EU, the EU parliament does not mean anything whatsoever. It's by its nature an undemocratic institution that only pretends to be democratic for propaganda purposes


But in other news
Space!

You're absolutely right (unfortunately).

But thanks to this filth of the copyright directive (very likely will not see the light of day, I must inform myself, but hopefully well), now the European people are much harder to the European Union, which is the beginning of the end of the EU?

PS this planet that you have linked is located in the habitable zone?
 

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You're absolutely right (unfortunately).

But thanks to this filth of the copyright directive (very likely will not see the light of day, I must inform myself, but hopefully well), now the European people are much harder to the European Union, which is the beginning of the end of the EU?

PS this planet that you have linked is located in the habitable zone?
The end of EU started as soon as it became political instead of economical, so right away.
Problem with EU is that it was designed by people long time ago (70 years now?) as a countermeasure for wars on European continent. However, times changed and idea of creating super country in the image of US is no longer valid enough. So instead of EU being a way to prevent nationalistic ideas and mix everything it became a fire starter for what it was supposed to stop.
Though, don't expect any fancy shmancy revolution, rather it will be a slow process of major countries leaving EU until it can no longer support itself and will simply fall. Worst thing that could happen is the in-country tensions, mostly thanks to Germany and France with their immigration policies and flooding EU with economical migrants. Amount of those people is getting dangerously high to general tolerance of people, which rises nationalistic ideas even further and can end in very brutal events that will be race/nation based, so worst kind.
One way or another, shit is going to happen, it's more of a matter of how much it can be toned down.
 

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The end of EU started as soon as it became political instead of economical, so right away.
Problem with EU is that it was designed by people long time ago (70 years now?) as a countermeasure for wars on European continent. However, times changed and idea of creating super country in the image of US is no longer valid enough. So instead of EU being a way to prevent nationalistic ideas and mix everything it became a fire starter for what it was supposed to stop.
Though, don't expect any fancy shmancy revolution, rather it will be a slow process of major countries leaving EU until it can no longer support itself and will simply fall. Worst thing that could happen is the in-country tensions, mostly thanks to Germany and France with their immigration policies and flooding EU with economical migrants. Amount of those people is getting dangerously high to general tolerance of people, which rises nationalistic ideas even further and can end in very brutal events that will be race/nation based, so worst kind.
One way or another, shit is going to happen, it's more of a matter of how much it can be toned down.
A slow but inevitable decline, right?
 

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Not as slow as one might think, not as fast as most of the anti-EU people want. Couple that with Russia's disdain and current harassment by the EU, Trump's strict policy of "go fuck yourselves, also suck my dick", and the UK's current shenanigans with Brexit and you get the turmoil before the inevitable shit-storm. Unfortunately, Oh, and wanna know the fun part? of Hungary and co are conveniently burning. Weird, that regions with high densities of economic migrants/refugees are suddenly experiencing uncontrollable fires.

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A slow but inevitable decline, right?
I know you are getting a hard-on by the idea of EU getting dissolved, but for every action there is opposite reaction. If things aren't done properly, it will end up with large number of losses in lives as tensions are still growing. And while I may not be a fan of EU, it's already here and should go away slowly, like old twats do, to make space for new generation.


Not as slow as one might think, not as fast as most of the anti-EU people want. Couple that with Russia's disdain and current harassment by the EU, Trump's strict policy of "go fuck yourselves, also suck my dick", and the UK's current shenanigans with Brexit and you get the turmoil before the inevitable shit-storm. Unfortunately, Oh, and wanna know the fun part? of Hungary and co are conveniently burning. Weird, that regions with high densities of economic migrants/refugees are suddenly experiencing uncontrollable fires.

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I call it natural speed, from our perspective - it's slow, from civilization perspective - quite fast.
Oh yeah, Macron, victim of pedophilia and as all of them, I don't expect him to be right in the head, so he probably didn't even took it as a wrong thing.
While I do see irony in what you said, Spain and Portugal are burning due to different reasons, hopefully it will be solved as fires like that are always disastrous.
Well, Venezuela is pretty much done for. It's time to step in and forcefully solve the issue (preferably on the side of citizens, but that's only on the whim of whoever will step in).
 

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PS this planet that you have linked is located in the habitable zone?
It has no sun or solar system near it
So I'm pretty sure it isn't in any way habitable for human life as we know it

The end of EU started as soon as it became political instead of economical, so right away.
Problem with EU is that it was designed by people long time ago (70 years now?) as a countermeasure for wars on European continent. However, times changed and idea of creating super country in the image of US is no longer valid enough. So instead of EU being a way to prevent nationalistic ideas and mix everything it became a fire starter for what it was supposed to stop.
Though, don't expect any fancy shmancy revolution, rather it will be a slow process of major countries leaving EU until it can no longer support itself and will simply fall. Worst thing that could happen is the in-country tensions, mostly thanks to Germany and France with their immigration policies and flooding EU with economical migrants. Amount of those people is getting dangerously high to general tolerance of people, which rises nationalistic ideas even further and can end in very brutal events that will be race/nation based, so worst kind.
One way or another, shit is going to happen, it's more of a matter of how much it can be toned down.
The origin story is wrong. The EU as we know it is a recent addition to older treaties- The older treaties were indeed designed as a countermeasure for wars on the european continent, in part through a shared market that applied purely to war-materials like coal, iron, steel, and so on. This was later expanded to include just a full shared market and free movement of people. Only after several decades of this working well did the EU form a political entity, and things almost immediately went to shit as they started trying to form a European federal state. Through their constant attempts to unify Europe, the only thing they've done is cause crisis after crisis. The result of these crisis, and several other factors including attempting to legislate things that did not need legislating(Light bulbs as example), constant pro-EU propaganda and a consistent undertone of heavy corruption essentially means that Europe will not be unified as long as the EU remains.
Some of their more recent suggestions, such as an EU-army will only make people more nationalistic as they all see it coming- Such an EU army is there to suppress any single country that would try to leave, NATO already exists for defence, so there is no other use for such an army other than to be used against the populace.

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Oh, and wanna know the fun part? of Hungary and co are conveniently burning. Weird, that regions with high densities of economic migrants/refugees are suddenly experiencing uncontrollable fires.
This, however. I don't see as strange thing or something that the migrants are doing. Outside of the part where the migrants move on to France and Germany, it's a yearly thing for Spain and Portugal to have wildfires if my memory serves. I think I remember reading a fair bit on the topic a few years ago and apparently they imported Australian trees that secrete a flammable sap to encourage forest fires. So that their seeds will have unobstructed sunlight in the areas burned down
Just nature being nature after humans decided to import something they didn't understand the consequences of
 

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1) In short, "THE EUROPEAN GESTAPO"

2) I want to clarify that before the EU in 1947 was the BENELUX (belgium, holland and luxembourg), then in 1952 united italy italy and
west germany.

3) I have been hard on the EU for 20 years, first I was for the EU.

4) Wow this planet and fucking GIANT, 12 times of Jupiter !!!
 
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