The Ranting/Debate Thread
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but really, if you're going to get bent out of shape every time someone snaps at you, well then you need to learn to take it like a man. it annoys me that people get angry about being neg repped, its like being insulted, you don't have to turn around and pick a fight, you could just walk away. although it also annyos me that sometimes people needlessly chuck insults around, as they say, it takes two people to start a fight.
if anyones got a problem with rep, take it up with me.
but really, if you're going to get bent out of shape every time someone snaps at you, well then you need to learn to take it like a man. it annoys me that people get angry about being neg repped, its like being insulted, you don't have to turn around and pick a fight, you could just walk away. although it also annyos me that sometimes people needlessly chuck insults around, as they say, it takes two people to start a fight.
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I'm not getting bent out of shape. I just felt like giving a response so the person didn't think I wasn't aware.
As a side note, that person pretty much took the perfect step. Why the need to neg rep + leave a nasty comment next to it? Especially when I didn't post in the wrong thread and I was just continuing a discussion with sinful.
Let's me know that such a person, is really a loser. To feel like one must create (or try; or maybe not even try) opposition out of boredom I imagine? Oh well, some people just have to remain 300-pound, pimple necked loners.
Don't think you can't run psychology on the internet.
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I'm not angry here, just so ya know. I just felt like making you all aware of some thoughts, and maybe I'll be lucky enough that you'll pause to think about it.
... anyways ... waiting to continue a debate about tentacle rape porn.
I'm not getting bent out of shape. I just felt like giving a response so the person didn't think I wasn't aware.
As a side note, that person pretty much took the perfect step. Why the need to neg rep + leave a nasty comment next to it? Especially when I didn't post in the wrong thread and I was just continuing a discussion with sinful.
Let's me know that such a person, is really a loser. To feel like one must create (or try; or maybe not even try) opposition out of boredom I imagine? Oh well, some people just have to remain 300-pound, pimple necked loners.
Don't think you can't run psychology on the internet.
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I'm not angry here, just so ya know. I just felt like making you all aware of some thoughts, and maybe I'll be lucky enough that you'll pause to think about it.
... anyways ... waiting to continue a debate about tentacle rape porn.
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All I have to say.
All I have to say.
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So back to some points though. As it's been stated, tenty rape just isn't popular enough for artists to take up projects on such a genre. Now, if artists decided to draw more of what they wanted, rather than popular demand...
Just on a personal note, I believe that art comes from self expression, well... that's pretty much the definition of art; to me. Yet, when people arn't even drawing from their own ideas..... then it's not even a good reason to consider it art. It really does just become porn to jerk off to.
I just get to bothered by submission though...
I mean, I personally don't believe that women (or men) are that emotionally weak to let sexual stimulation take over their agenda. I believe most people would definitely do all they can to get out of being molested by a tentacle monster. Hell, most of em' would fight to the death before submitting.
You also have to consider that the basis of tentacle "rape" came from hentai (anime). Them Asians always play it tough on their women. Constantly making them feel so puny and small compared to the strong Samurai warrior; the man.
So of course it's logical for them to draw submission ALWAYS following any rape based content.
So back to some points though. As it's been stated, tenty rape just isn't popular enough for artists to take up projects on such a genre. Now, if artists decided to draw more of what they wanted, rather than popular demand...
Just on a personal note, I believe that art comes from self expression, well... that's pretty much the definition of art; to me. Yet, when people arn't even drawing from their own ideas..... then it's not even a good reason to consider it art. It really does just become porn to jerk off to.
I just get to bothered by submission though...
I mean, I personally don't believe that women (or men) are that emotionally weak to let sexual stimulation take over their agenda. I believe most people would definitely do all they can to get out of being molested by a tentacle monster. Hell, most of em' would fight to the death before submitting.
You also have to consider that the basis of tentacle "rape" came from hentai (anime). Them Asians always play it tough on their women. Constantly making them feel so puny and small compared to the strong Samurai warrior; the man.
So of course it's logical for them to draw submission ALWAYS following any rape based content.
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So... you get off to people being horrible mistreated to the point of death? Or people not giving in to stick with their morals? Its somewhat fuzzy how you said it there.
Mind you it's still all just fantasy, which as we've already covered needs to be kept separate from reality.
However, the Asians don't always make the women feel puny compared to the man. There's plenty of anime out there with strong female characters. Hell the Claymore anime is nearly all female characters, with only a small handful of strong male characters. They don't always make their women seem small and puny next to the samurai man character. Even in the the Feudal Age of Japan there had been some female samurai.
So... you get off to people being horrible mistreated to the point of death? Or people not giving in to stick with their morals? Its somewhat fuzzy how you said it there.
Mind you it's still all just fantasy, which as we've already covered needs to be kept separate from reality.
However, the Asians don't always make the women feel puny compared to the man. There's plenty of anime out there with strong female characters. Hell the Claymore anime is nearly all female characters, with only a small handful of strong male characters. They don't always make their women seem small and puny next to the samurai man character. Even in the the Feudal Age of Japan there had been some female samurai.
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Well, actual non-porn anime is a different story. I'm talking about just hentai, it's pretty lame. I don't like the idea of any characters submitting. As for the rape bit though... that only goes so far with me...
1. It has to be a cartoon. I do not like live action rape fantasy; it really does have to be toon based.
2. Even when meeting the first requirement, I would prefer something that isn't real, to be committing the action. When the character is a human, it's a little bit more difficult to get into it...
3. No death and the less pain as possible being expressed, is best. Also, when they cry their eyes out... that's too much too...
Really, by my standards... I'm probably hardly a person to be accepted as a fan of the genre.
Well, actual non-porn anime is a different story. I'm talking about just hentai, it's pretty lame. I don't like the idea of any characters submitting. As for the rape bit though... that only goes so far with me...
1. It has to be a cartoon. I do not like live action rape fantasy; it really does have to be toon based.
2. Even when meeting the first requirement, I would prefer something that isn't real, to be committing the action. When the character is a human, it's a little bit more difficult to get into it...
3. No death and the less pain as possible being expressed, is best. Also, when they cry their eyes out... that's too much too...
Really, by my standards... I'm probably hardly a person to be accepted as a fan of the genre.
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Indeed... no wonder you can't find what your looking for. Rape is generally unpleasant for the person being raped, even in hentai... so the person would generally be crying or in pain or something like that.
Indeed... no wonder you can't find what your looking for. Rape is generally unpleasant for the person being raped, even in hentai... so the person would generally be crying or in pain or something like that.
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In hentai, it's either realistic rape, or submissive rape where the idea is that the victim has an underlying desire for the sexual acts. Realistic hentai rape tends to show rape as the horrible, horrible thing that it really is, and therefore there will often be pain, crying and psychological after effects.
In hentai, it's either realistic rape, or submissive rape where the idea is that the victim has an underlying desire for the sexual acts. Realistic hentai rape tends to show rape as the horrible, horrible thing that it really is, and therefore there will often be pain, crying and psychological after effects.
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That depends I suppose. I also enjoy angry chicks ^_- Girls being raped that are very angry about it and will kill you afterwards, kind of thing...
As for the crying, pain and stuff... I'm not sure how I would set the bars. For example... I'll show you my all time favorite tenty/rape pic:
Well, my two favorites but from the same set:
I don't mind the crying or whatever, as long as it's not out of control. Like, where that set came from, there is two images per situation; one normal and then one climax. In all situations, Ashley isn't crying but just teary eyed (like her character would most likely be). She just has the worried "I Don't want this" look. For all the climaxes though, then the artist put little tears rolling down. That's okay by me.
It also depends on what character is being molested by a tentacle monster. If it's say, Ada Wong... chances are she'll be angry...
I guess, my main point is that I look forward to realism BUT! at the cost of fake creatures, cartoons and less exaggerations from emotions.
I don't like rape, but something about it turns me on... So I accept the fantasy, but I take away as much as I can that I don't kill my mind over it. At the same time though, I make sure to keep key points so it will remain the rape genre. Make sense?
That depends I suppose. I also enjoy angry chicks ^_- Girls being raped that are very angry about it and will kill you afterwards, kind of thing...
As for the crying, pain and stuff... I'm not sure how I would set the bars. For example... I'll show you my all time favorite tenty/rape pic:
Well, my two favorites but from the same set:
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I don't mind the crying or whatever, as long as it's not out of control. Like, where that set came from, there is two images per situation; one normal and then one climax. In all situations, Ashley isn't crying but just teary eyed (like her character would most likely be). She just has the worried "I Don't want this" look. For all the climaxes though, then the artist put little tears rolling down. That's okay by me.
It also depends on what character is being molested by a tentacle monster. If it's say, Ada Wong... chances are she'll be angry...
I guess, my main point is that I look forward to realism BUT! at the cost of fake creatures, cartoons and less exaggerations from emotions.
I don't like rape, but something about it turns me on... So I accept the fantasy, but I take away as much as I can that I don't kill my mind over it. At the same time though, I make sure to keep key points so it will remain the rape genre. Make sense?
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Indeed it does.
I suppose the main reason I like submission, is because I'm a fan of corruption.
Indeed it does.
I suppose the main reason I like submission, is because I'm a fan of corruption.
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It makes obvious sense why it's preferred by the majority. The whole point to any of this fantasy is about sexual stimulation.
That's definitely one way to see it. I suppose the main reason, or the way I always see it; is the idea of being the ultimate pleasuring thing, you're so good that you'll make anyone submit. I can't get into that though... it feels too unrealistic to me...
It makes obvious sense why it's preferred by the majority. The whole point to any of this fantasy is about sexual stimulation.
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Hmm, Vuki, I think your favorites are what I'd classify as submission. I mean, she's not really constrained, and she's giving the tentacles a handjob by her own accord.
Also, if that's what you mean, then
might have something you like.
Also, I just realized, there's an artist called Aerial Rave that has a bunch of pretty clear rape pics.
Hmm, Vuki, I think your favorites are what I'd classify as submission. I mean, she's not really constrained, and she's giving the tentacles a handjob by her own accord.
Also, if that's what you mean, then
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might have something you like.
Also, I just realized, there's an artist called Aerial Rave that has a bunch of pretty clear rape pics.
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I don't quite see that way. I see a character who has just given up on putting up a fight. She hasn't submitted so much as just letting the thing do what it wants so it'll go away. I think you also have to consider the situation of the character, right? Ashley Graham was kidnapped and until she sees Leon there to save her, everyone else around her is an enemy.
Thanks, I'll take a look around. Also, any special place to find this "Aerial Rave" person? =3
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I remember there was some on Luscious before, but now I can't seem to find it. Also, I don't think you fully understand what you're asking for...
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Submission is an emotion involving humility or meekness.[1] Robert Plutchik listed submission as one of the eight advanced emotions in his Plutchik's Wheel of Emotions. Submission is composed of acceptance with fear, and has the opposite of contempt. Submission is also referred as an action by fitting in and making oneself acceptable to the other person.
I remember there was some on Luscious before, but now I can't seem to find it. Also, I don't think you fully understand what you're asking for...
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Submission is an emotion involving humility or meekness.[1] Robert Plutchik listed submission as one of the eight advanced emotions in his Plutchik's Wheel of Emotions. Submission is composed of acceptance with fear, and has the opposite of contempt. Submission is also referred as an action by fitting in and making oneself acceptable to the other person.
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This is the way I see it then.
1. Submission based on what you listed, by fear.
2. To submit to the pleasure and start to want it.
I dislike #2... but number 1 is very much accurate in the pics I showed. Shes submitted to let it do its thing, but she hasn't submitted to the pleasure. She hasn't given in to the sex, which then still implies the rape.
So, I guess I do like submission but only if it's still rape. I don't mind seeing the girl NOT fight back, which would be a form of submission... but I also like to see fighting back as well. That just depends on the character. All in all though, it's still rape.
This is the way I see it then.
1. Submission based on what you listed, by fear.
2. To submit to the pleasure and start to want it.
I dislike #2... but number 1 is very much accurate in the pics I showed. Shes submitted to let it do its thing, but she hasn't submitted to the pleasure. She hasn't given in to the sex, which then still implies the rape.
So, I guess I do like submission but only if it's still rape. I don't mind seeing the girl NOT fight back, which would be a form of submission... but I also like to see fighting back as well. That just depends on the character. All in all though, it's still rape.
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This kindof thing Vuki?
'Cuz she just looks pissed off to me.
This kindof thing Vuki?
'Cuz she just looks pissed off to me.
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I suppose that's a good example. It's fairly difficult finding angry tenty rape. It's pretty much the "blue moon" of tenty rape. That's a hot image though *adds to collection*. =3
This kindof thing Vuki?
'Cuz she just looks pissed off to me.
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Ok, so for the updates, the demo seems to have gotten a weapon very abstract concerning regular play, while the soldiers is just a small modification.
Comon, they make the demo, what seems to be, more fun, while giving those juggling soldiers, the people who take a shitload of time to learn and become pro EVEN BETTER. I aim for blast radius rockets cuz I'm shit at aiming directly at people, while pros can do it like that. So now their rockets will be even more powerful cuz of the concentrated blast. And whats even better is people who play soldier well juggle people just to hit them in the air, and the new weapon gives aerial hits automatic mini crits.
Basically, if you've gotten shot into the air by a concentrated blast, then nailed again with stronger blast + mini crit, you're pretty much auto dead. Meanwhile, the demo gets a broadsword.
If this is how things go, I'd really like for the demoman to get the extra weapon, that's just ridiculous.
Ok, so for the updates, the demo seems to have gotten a weapon very abstract concerning regular play, while the soldiers is just a small modification.
Comon, they make the demo, what seems to be, more fun, while giving those juggling soldiers, the people who take a shitload of time to learn and become pro EVEN BETTER. I aim for blast radius rockets cuz I'm shit at aiming directly at people, while pros can do it like that. So now their rockets will be even more powerful cuz of the concentrated blast. And whats even better is people who play soldier well juggle people just to hit them in the air, and the new weapon gives aerial hits automatic mini crits.
Basically, if you've gotten shot into the air by a concentrated blast, then nailed again with stronger blast + mini crit, you're pretty much auto dead. Meanwhile, the demo gets a broadsword.
If this is how things go, I'd really like for the demoman to get the extra weapon, that's just ridiculous.
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You gotta admit though. The Chargin' Targe is potentially a tie breaker too. The only problem is the whole lack of a stick bomb launcher. I agree with you though. Soldiers have just won this battle. Let's say all soldiers, noob and pro, equip themselves with The Direct Hit. Combined with all the rocket spamming that's been going on, you're bound to get hit directly easily. The chances of Demo winning this war just turned into a fraction of a percent.
You gotta admit though. The Chargin' Targe is potentially a tie breaker too. The only problem is the whole lack of a stick bomb launcher. I agree with you though. Soldiers have just won this battle. Let's say all soldiers, noob and pro, equip themselves with The Direct Hit. Combined with all the rocket spamming that's been going on, you're bound to get hit directly easily. The chances of Demo winning this war just turned into a fraction of a percent.