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Don't add this one to the list, we just expanded the team and we're no longer working with patreon so the game will be free to the public from now on.
You expanded the team and no longer use patreon? Are you making a new one is that what you mean? Or you not using patreon at all?
 

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You expanded the team and no longer use patreon? Are you making a new one is that what you mean? Or you not using patreon at all?
I just finished reading the update on Patreon so I might be able to answer this. (Hopefully nobody minds me answering.) There were apparently some issues with Patreon not liking the art style of Libellia. That, and he felt the money from his regular job/s is sufficient enough that Libellia doesn't need crowd funding. Should be seeing future updates here now:

The Patreon will stay open, but will switch to support for animations, on a pay per animation (or 2) basis. It may or may not go away, depending on how much support there is for that. I hope it will stay. I think anyone supporting Kyrieru's animation patreon should also subscribe to Arsministrator's.

In my opinion it should still be on the Patreon list here (how else are the H-animations going to get noticed/supported?), but I guess you should honor Arsministrator's wishes. Hopefully he will allow you to add it to the list next week when the polls start.
 

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Don't add this one to the list, we just expanded the team and we're no longer working with patreon so the game will be free to the public from now on.
apparently some issues with Patreon not liking the art style of Libellia.
Could you expand on this?
Im guessing its not the "style" but whats portrayed? or atleast what THEY believe is portrayed? (this is a guess from the small amount of art i saw)

That, and he felt the money from his regular job/s is sufficient enough that Libellia doesn't need crowd funding.
Thats kinda a good thing, but i dont like to see a developer pushed away from support (financial or not) by opinion.

I kinda like the are style... i cant follow blogs that well (dont like feeds as my last OS reinstall was caused by one.)
 
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Could you expand on this?
Im guessing its not the "style" but whats portrayed? or atleast what THEY believe is portrayed? (this is a guess from the small amount of art i saw)
Body types, while I don't make loli it seems that girls with flat chests or small breasts go dangerously close to being misunderstood in sprite format (the style doesn't help). It's why shortstacks are accepted even though they're small girls in height, with the female proportions exagerated there are no excuses about the age of the body/girl.

The suggestion was to make the breasts bigger and exagerate certain proportions, I appreciate the suggestion but on a genre that focuses on female sensuality and sexuality and a game where you're looking for monsters girls I have to wonder just how long I can do that before the players get bored. You will be able to see the pattern on what I can draw and what I can't eventually, I'd like to have that limitation removed for more interesting content, not to please everyone but for the sake of better designs and content, this is a game that focus on monster girls designs and sex after all.

Thats kinda a good thing, but i dont like to see a developer pushed away from support (financial or not) by opinion.

I kinda like the are style... i cant follow blogs that well (dont like feeds as my last OS reinstall was caused by one.)
Honestly I'm happy with leaving patreon, I never charged for anything so there's no money lost (except for one month at the start where I removed the monthly setting), and I wasn't planning on doing so anytime soon. Crowdfunding is great and there are a lot of developers making good use of it but I'm not one of them (just look at my track record). I'd rather move to a free model in my situation, patreon games are better with people that keep in contact with the fans (Hentaiwritter) and update constantly (Anon42), I can't do either of those with my day job, commissions and requests, it's just going to be a constant stream of dissapointment for patrons.

I can support the game on my own. Unless it's out of greed there's no reason for using crowdfunding in that situation. For now the Patreon is there because I always liked the idea of making animations for other people but that's all. If there's no interest or people don't like it I'll just keep focusing on making assets for other adult game devs around while working on my game on the side.
 

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Body types, while I don't make loli it seems that girls with flat chests or small breasts go dangerously close to being misunderstood in sprite format (the style doesn't help).
That it is exactly what i thought it was, Im actually disapointed by this even though i knew it was the issue. Guess i should not have expected better.

The suggestion was to make the breasts bigger and exagerate certain proportions, I appreciate the suggestion but on a genre that focuses on female sensuality and sexuality and a game where you're looking for monsters girls I have to wonder just how long I can do that before the players get bored. You will be able to see the pattern on what I can draw and what I can't eventually, I'd like to have that limitation removed for more interesting content, not to please everyone but for the sake of better designs and content, this is a game that focus on monster girls designs and sex after all.
That compramises your art, changing it to be "accepted" is unacceptable.
It should have been easy enough for you to put up a minor disclamer saying "all characters depicted are over 18 blahblah, but whatever. Its probably better this way, more freedom. :)


Honestly I'm happy with leaving patreon, I never charged for anything so there's no money lost
I can support the game on my own.
Thats good to hear, i hope you the best in your future work :) now i gotta find a good way to follow your blog without annoying myself... hmm...
 

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The majority of men seem to prefer larger breasts, so I can't help but suspect said Patreon staff of wanting only large breasted women in your game.

I've heard this before: "You're not a real woman unless you have large breasts."

I really hate the negative mentality towards women who have smaller breasts. It's like society thinks women with petite breasts don't have the right to be seen as desirable. I've heard that in Australia it is illegal for women with small breasts to be in porn.

Sorry about being a bit off topic. Just had to rant a bit. xP
 

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Body types, while I don't make loli it seems that girls with flat chests or small breasts go dangerously close to being misunderstood in sprite format (the style doesn't help). It's why shortstacks are accepted even though they're small girls in height, with the female proportions exagerated there are no excuses about the age of the body/girl.

The suggestion was to make the breasts bigger and exagerate certain proportions, I appreciate the suggestion but on a genre that focuses on female sensuality and sexuality and a game where you're looking for monsters girls I have to wonder just how long I can do that before the players get bored. You will be able to see the pattern on what I can draw and what I can't eventually, I'd like to have that limitation removed for more interesting content, not to please everyone but for the sake of better designs and content, this is a game that focus on monster girls designs and sex after all.



Honestly I'm happy with leaving patreon, I never charged for anything so there's no money lost (except for one month at the start where I removed the monthly setting), and I wasn't planning on doing so anytime soon. Crowdfunding is great and there are a lot of developers making good use of it but I'm not one of them (just look at my track record). I'd rather move to a free model in my situation, patreon games are better with people that keep in contact with the fans (Hentaiwritter) and update constantly (Anon42), I can't do either of those with my day job, commissions and requests, it's just going to be a constant stream of dissapointment for patrons.

I can support the game on my own. Unless it's out of greed there's no reason for using crowdfunding in that situation. For now the Patreon is there because I always liked the idea of making animations for other people but that's all. If there's no interest or people don't like it I'll just keep focusing on making assets for other adult game devs around while working on my game on the side.
Ah so your income as an artist is powered mainly through commissions?

Ya, most people who don't like keeping to a schedule I notice avoid crowdfunding, hell, the guy who was doing the long vacation just put out a post saying "ya im done for now kthx bye" and explicitly said this is why he didn't do patreon. Because he saw himself taking a break or stopping.
 

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Great list! can you add the game SuperPowered? I played the demo and it has potential... especially if you like incest and mind control :p
 

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Great list! can you add the game SuperPowered? I played the demo and it has potential... especially if you like incest and mind control :p
Giving ppl a url would make a google search so much more easy, considering the quite generic name... :)
 

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Giving ppl a url would make a google search so much more easy, considering the quite generic name... :)
I'm new, I can't put links yet... but if it helps, search "Night City Productions" in google or Patreon :)
 

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Found this game on FP


Heres some previews:


I'm new, I can't put links yet... but if it helps, search "Night City Productions" in google or Patreon :)
Here ya go buddy:
 

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Found this game on FP
I tried to post on his Patreon but for some reason I couldn't (Or I just couldn't see my posts, not sure which). I was hoping to ask if he intended on adding the option for players to customize their wings, tail, horns (type and size) as well as stuff like breast size, physique, etc..

One of my favorite systems that allowed this was in Rumble Roses XX, where you would first earn the custom sizes and then you could change them at any time.
 

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I tried to post on his Patreon but for some reason I couldn't (Or I just couldn't see my posts, not sure which). I was hoping to ask if he intended on adding the option for players to customize their wings, tail, horns (type and size) as well as stuff like breast size, physique, etc..

One of my favorite systems that allowed this was in Rumble Roses XX, where you would first earn the custom sizes and then you could change them at any time.
I dont know, its probably "moderated" so the owner might need to allow the post to be seen first, possibly only for non patreons. IDK tho.
 

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Can I get my game here? Thanks!

 

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So I just saw that heavens studio game has been leaked on porn game sites.

Like early early builds. So can someone tell me why after 2 whole years of making their game, the earliest builds are just now being leaked.

Did they really not have anything playable for two whole years of collecting patreon cash? Or am I to believe that no one leaked in progress builds for two whole years?

Anyone know the story behind this patreon and or game? Just curious why it was in development for so long, but only now are builds leaking out.
 

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So I just saw that heavens studio game has been leaked on porn game sites.

Like early early builds. So can someone tell me why after 2 whole years of making their game, the earliest builds are just now being leaked.

Did they really not have anything playable for two whole years of collecting patreon cash? Or am I to believe that no one leaked in progress builds for two whole years?

Anyone know the story behind this patreon and or game? Just curious why it was in development for so long, but only now are builds leaking out.
As far as I had seen, no one leaked anything for Future Fragments (gifs, demos, anything) until well over 9 months from the start of development, so it's possible.
 

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no offense to the producers,
but to be honest i'm kinda looking down on patron right now, i found it quite a money scam like after all these efforts many of them only produced mediocre games with average number of CGs (not to mention most of them are only in the pre-alpha state), while many good games on dlsite would deserve twice as much in my opinion

i guess i just prefer the games on dlsite more, but its true that some dlsite circles have much better game-play and graphics and would deserve more than some patrons out there
 
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So I just saw that heavens studio game has been leaked on porn game sites.

Like early early builds. So can someone tell me why after 2 whole years of making their game, the earliest builds are just now being leaked.

Did they really not have anything playable for two whole years of collecting patreon cash? Or am I to believe that no one leaked in progress builds for two whole years?

Anyone know the story behind this patreon and or game? Just curious why it was in development for so long, but only now are builds leaking out.
1) We don't care about leaks as long as they don't leak it in the same day / first week.

2) We haven't been around for 2 years, we started May last year, from zero.

3) I have no idea why people are sharing older versions when there's newer ones out, for free, in non-ad non-paying sites. Clickbaits will clickbait.
 

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It's an inherent issue with the system. Patreon is by no means a reliable source of income to most developers will prioritize other means of making a living. Patreon projects as a result tend to be hobby projects, and those projects that do succeed and generate enough revenue to make a living off of simply aren't ready for or experienced with turning their hobby project into a full-time activity.

Then there's the gap of someone having a good idea and actually realizing it into a proper project, especially when multiple people are involved.

Add in factors like Patreon projects employing stretch goals and donation incentives (most of which will distract and detract from the actual project and/or original vision) and the resulting mix is a highly volatile and utterly unreliable one.

Patreon in that sense would need to create a proper divide between hobby projects and projects that are looking for full-fledged funding (for which I honestly think something like kickstarter is the superior alternative, though the pay-per-update option was a great step in the right direction)

It also wouldn't hurt for people to announce clearly whether or not they intend to work on their project full time, some people clearly have other obligations and have no intention of working full time on it regardless how much donations they're getting.
 

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Yeah there is a lot of bad patreons, but there are some solid hard working ones to. We just have to hope that the posers will fade away and the real professionals will make themselves known.
 
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