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Chill goat, just grow your team the way you want it. Either way, this week is a great time to grow.

Anyone tested the new soma? Can she replace bashira?

And hows nagi? Never got her, worth the effort?
 
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It's not even about criticizing a lack of min maxing. These are game basics that can be found in nearly any introductory guide. You need a core team. Without one you will not be able to clear much of anything.

Well that was only an example, the actual point is, some people take on the effort to write complains/critics against someone for asking something deemed "stupid" by the "core community", when actually answering such questions requires the same or even less effort.
The actual "correct" behavior in such situations would be to "ignore" the question/rant/whatever XD
 
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Chill goat, just grow your team the way you want it. Either way, this week is a great time to grow.

Anyone tested the new soma? Can she replace bashira?

And hows nagi? Never got her, worth the effort?

Just by the numbers, Gold Soma-chan seems great for afk runs, decent for "normal" runs. Although 200 rc is a bit high for free players or small spenders so I wouldn't consider her a priority. (In an afk run she would be a lot better than Bashira. In a normal run it depends, sometimes Bashira concentrated dps will be a lot more useful)

Nagi is a decent ninja, can do some serious tanking and reasonable dps during skill. She can be used to gank a mid-boss and then remain as support. If u don't have any aw ninja I would recommend getting a copy.
 
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Serious question: I just hit 400 RCs. Should I get one of the mainstay platinum or two of the new Soma? Or one Soma and just keep the rest for now? Soma seems to be really good against the units she's strong against and pretty meh against everything else.
 
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Soma is only there temporarily, the Platinums will stay in TP.

Might get a Soma myself as that is all I can afford, her Shintao priestess design is pretty nice. There hasn't been too many situations yet that needed 3 archers. In the past I would use a silver archer or even Khuri as 3rd. New Soma's wider range (312 instead of 260) is a definite plus, and luckily she can be instantly brought up to CC60 using small blessing spirit Alegria and 3 plat cans.

Honestly I don't see the point of getting two copies of Soma. If I wanted to reduce her cost I would just use the gold bond spirit instead, and rainbows for skills.
 
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Say , anyone know which Boss or enemies that can / can't be assasinated?
Is there a list?

Pretty fun to use Roza XD
Maybe I should kick 1 unit from rooster
Either Metus / Despia / Anelia / Rachel

Thanks~
 
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On the other hand I had to use lvl 10 irons to level out my units enough so that I can pass Castle Retake. That took weeks.

And as I final point, I came over from Nutaku so that I could experience all the cool shit: a slew of new units and events (remember, most things in the daily rotation were completely new to me as well). So that's what I'm focused on. I don't want to level the same old boring units I've been using for over a year on Nutaku, to grind the dailies using the same old tactics and grind the same old story maps when I have all the shiny new stuff to look at. It's boring to do so. And it's immensely frustrating to see event after event passing me by not even trying for a higher grade reward and only getting subpar versions of the units. If you tell me to just ignore all that and focus on grinding story maps and level the same old core team (mostly silvers), then don't bother. Because if that's the only way to get anywhere, then I probably should just quit. Because I sure as shit don't have the patience to do the slow grind for a second time. That's why I opted for leveling premium/event units instead of silvers and only resorted to leveling silvers where I had no other alternative. And I mostly intend to continue to do so. I will level some more key silver units, but overall I'll keep focusing on higher tier units, especially the ones that are new to me.

I started anew on dmm christmas 2015, back before daily revivals were even a thing, back before there was black ticket, back before there was 3SC per day for 7 days newbie login gift. I cleared Castle Retake in less than a week with only like 3 CC'd units. The only 'advantage' I had over you, was that I had Cloris from tutorial at that time. I definitely didnt need to take weeks.

Yes, it is frustrating to get subpar units, but you do it and move on. Grinding your units take priority so you can handle future events better. Struggling to get better > complaining on the forums about virtually every single event since Emperor's. I also started close to a GR (last year's) and I only aimed for the guaranteed 90/12 rewards and mordrebete+bernice because I knew they were necessary. That's 3 out of 9 units.

'you don't want to grind the same old units' that's pretty much where you screwed yourself over. You could've just went with the same old units for the beginning before switching to new ones later on AFTER you had a core team to work with.
I used that to powerlevel most of my units to CC20 or so. That naturally became my "core team" afterwards. And of course I leveled silvers, because I had nothing else to level. I had Katie, Kerry, Cloris and a bit later Mehlis. That was all. There was no real decision making there, I just leveled everything. Because pretty much all of the decent units fit into a single team. On dmm they don't even fit in my barracks.
The very same units you leveled on nutaku make up your core team on dmm. they're the starter pack units. and they most certainly are different than on nutaku because of cc55 abilities.

took a brief look at your signature: cc20 daniela, cc62 bashira, cc57 fran, cc20 fuuri/khuri. that's your ranged dps? ever thought about how and what you need to do crystal H and X?

my main issue here, is that you basically screwed yourself over with your decisions to level silvers minimally and you want to complain about the event maps themselves being difficult?

And I mostly intend to continue to do so. I will level some more key silver units, but overall I'll keep focusing on higher tier units, especially the ones that are new to me.
then so be it; just don't complain about events being difficult because they're perfectly fine, fun and a mix of challenging and manageable.

Well that was only an example, the actual point is, some people take on the effort to write complains/critics against someone for asking something deemed "stupid" by the "core community", when actually answering such questions requires the same or even less effort.

Hoping they would learn from it and learn that they are being "stupid" about it. At the very least, I believe everyone strives to not look like an idiot.

Serious question: I just hit 400 RCs. Should I get one of the mainstay platinum or two of the new Soma? Or one Soma and just keep the rest for now? Soma seems to be really good against the units she's strong against and pretty meh against everything else.

probably better to get the usual spica-bashira and get leona instead. as a rearguard, 30% cd reduction (when AW'd) is much more useful, and unless you get Aisha, she's probably the only rearguard you'll be wanting and using in the long run.

A summary of what a new player should aim for when start Aigis:
- get to phalanx 2 asap (best place to use up excess stamina and get plat fairy for bashira early on)
- pass castle retake, get to fiery oasis and then BSII because best place for story mission fodders
- clear daily missions up to H/X asap so you can farm them when necessary and also spica/chydis/AW fairies from magic/demon crystals.

basically, these 3 things SHOULD come to a nutaku-experienced player intuitively. everything before is but a temporary stop and should be skipped if necessary. these 3 targets should pretty much be the targets within 1st 2 weeks of gameplay. You do aim to catch up with the current event difficulty after all.
 
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So.. I just realized I can bypass the restriction with signature...

Ok now you can see my units. lol

The Miruno awaken will have to wait it seems, Spica is top priority for now.
 
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So.. I just realized I can bypass the restriction with signature...

Ok now you can see my units. lol

The Miruno awaken will have to wait it seems, Spica is top priority for now.

just realized you can consider AW kanon and monica as well. monica for more mc and kanon for crystal G runs.
karsuman's crystal G setup is toto/aisha/fs/prince/fred (he's running with aw thief, so basically i'm assuming aisha is able to buy time until you can deploy kanon, then have kanon + aisha do what kanon+spica did in sennen's video below)
sennen war's strat using spica and aw kanon:

since you don't have aw spica, i'm not sure if you can use aisha to replace and oneshot, so in the end it's an idea that needs you to test on your own. I believe it's possible though, as long as you can get aw kanon to 900 atk with prince buff as well as aisha to oneshot the mobs.
 
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just realized you can consider AW kanon and monica as well. monica for more mc and kanon for crystal G runs.
karsuman's crystal G setup is toto/aisha/fs/prince/fred (he's running with aw thief, so basically i'm assuming aisha is able to buy time until you can deploy kanon, then have kanon + aisha do what kanon+spica did in sennen's video below)
sennen war's strat using spica and aw kanon: youtube.com/watch?v=G6tZPiAKtig

since you don't have aw spica, i'm not sure if you can use aisha to replace and oneshot, so in the end it's an idea that needs you to test on your own. I believe it's possible though, as long as you can get aw kanon to 900 atk with prince buff as well as aisha to oneshot the mobs.

Ok thanks! But I need Spica to get through the Magic Kingdom maps (those red crystals....), but then I am not sure if I am in hurry to awaken Prince. Thats why I kept delaying it. But now I think there must be one point where I had to do it? Why not do it sooner?
 
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I started anew on dmm christmas 2015, back before daily revivals were even a thing, back before there was black ticket, back before there was 3SC per day for 7 days newbie login gift. I cleared Castle Retake in less than a week with only like 3 CC'd units. The only 'advantage' I had over you, was that I had Cloris from tutorial at that time. I definitely didnt need to take weeks.

Yes, it is frustrating to get subpar units, but you do it and move on. Grinding your units take priority so you can handle future events better. Struggling to get better > complaining on the forums about virtually every single event since Emperor's. I also started close to a GR (last year's) and I only aimed for the guaranteed 90/12 rewards and mordrebete+bernice because I knew they were necessary. That's 3 out of 9 units.

'you don't want to grind the same old units' that's pretty much where you screwed yourself over. You could've just went with the same old units for the beginning before switching to new ones later on AFTER you had a core team to work with.

The very same units you leveled on nutaku make up your core team on dmm. they're the starter pack units. and they most certainly are different than on nutaku because of cc55 abilities.

took a brief look at your signature: cc20 daniela, cc62 bashira, cc57 fran, cc20 fuuri/khuri. that's your ranged dps? ever thought about how and what you need to do crystal H and X?

Well, I think I did stuck on castle retake for about 9 days or so, so "more than a week" would've been a better way to put it. But then again, wasn't focusing down on it, since I tried to have fun with ongoing events instead just plain grinding story maps. Could I have done it in a week? Maybe. Did I want to exclusively grind to make shit more efficient. With so many new maps around? Hell no. I played around those and then got back on grinding.

Have you, perhaps, considered the distinct possibility that I'm doing both? Yeah, I'm grumbling when I fail at something, shoot me. But that doesn't mean that I'm not leveling my units or struggling to get better. I just also want to have fun with the game, even if this results in not perfectly optimalised decisions from time to time. And going through the exact same, months long, boring as shit grinding that I've already done once... well, that's not fun. At all.

I really don't think that I screwed myself over though. At worst, i have a slower initial progression. At the end of the day, I have every new unit from the GR. With this weeks drop bonus, I'll get all of my key units to max affection. That should enable me to go on with the story maps. And I'm not saying that I won't level any silvers. I mean, I have a maxed Misha and Pallis already. I just don't want to go through the same motions again, so I prioritized my other units over them.

I also have Sabrine and Miruno there, maybe you should've checked that list a bit more carefully. And I can easily and reliably do the H version. Not sure about the X version, since I don't want to risk throwing away that much stamina on a botched attempt, so I decided not to bother with it until I start to AW units.
 
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Have you, perhaps, considered the distinct possibility that I'm doing both? Yeah, I'm grumbling when I fail at something, shoot me. But that doesn't mean that I'm not leveling my units or struggling to get better. I just also want to have fun with the game, even if this results in not perfectly optimalised decisions from time to time. And going through the exact same, months long, boring as shit grinding that I've already done once... well, that's not fun. At all.

I really don't think that I screwed myself over though. At worst, i have a slower initial progression. At the end of the day, I have every new unit from the GR. With this weeks drop bonus, I'll get all of my key units to max affection. That should enable me to go on with the story maps. And I'm not saying that I won't level any silvers. I mean, I have a maxed Misha and Pallis already. I just don't want to go through the same motions again, so I prioritized my other units over them.

I also have Sabrine and Miruno there, maybe you should've checked that list a bit more carefully. And I can easily and reliably do the H version. Not sure about the X version, since I don't want to risk throwing away that much stamina on a botched attempt, so I decided not to bother with it until I start to AW units.

basically, you complained about perfectly fine event maps that dmm came up with, which was the reason we got to arguing about this in the first place.

if you really don't think you screwed yourself over and insist on doing things your way, then so be it. just fyi, you also need silvers for 4-star challenges on dmm (nutaku also recently got it) for some of the maps, so if you're not going to level the necessary silvers now, you're really less likely to level them in the future when you will only use them for that 2-3 maps, and thus you're going to miss out on a couple of SCs.

ranged dps =/= ranged melee (or melee support). Miruno and Sabinne are considered melee support units, not ranged dps units. and if you don't want to plan ahead for crystal X (which is pretty much flat out more efficient than H if we disregard it consuming more cha), then so be it.

You already know you're behind other players who more or less started at a similar period with you and are fairly likely to carry on getting more subpar event units until you get a strong solid core team that can replicate videos more easily when you fail the maps yourself. and I guess our advice to 'back to basics' fall on deaf ears, so I'll be done with this.
 
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@UnknownAZ

Here is a pretty easy video for magic crystal G
 
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@UnknownAZ

Here is a pretty easy video for magic crystal G

注意:旧仕様の砲術に頼っているためラストが再現不能です。(ご指摘感謝です)
上げ直せるといいなぁ…

basically, it says it only works for the old cannoneers (because they were nerfed by the game; they now have flying cannonballs like archer arrows instead of instant-hit explosions like pirate attacks, also known as hitscan)
 
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注意:旧仕様の砲術に頼っているためラストが再現不能です。(ご指摘感謝です)
上げ直せるといいなぁ…

basically, it says it only works for the old cannoneers (because they were nerfed by the game; they now have flying cannonballs like archer arrows instead of instant-hit explosions like pirate attacks, also known as hitscan)

Oh I see.
 
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So, now there is a 1.5x drop event right? Which Magic Crystal map is the best for farming?
 
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So, now there is a 1.5x drop event right? Which Magic Crystal map is the best for farming?

daily-wise, always the highest.
only exception is armor daily (G is for armors, X/N is for gold)

decided to run some numbers under some assumptions for gold:
3 N runs = (assuming 40% base rate) 3 / 5 gold armors *3 = 9 gold armors + 27k (9k gold/run) = 81k gold from 72c/6s
2 X runs = (assuming 60% base rate, but assuming 100% drop rate for x1.5) 6/6 gold armors *2 = 12 gold armors + 30k = 102k from 160c/6s
1 G (assuming 100% gold armor drop rate) = 5 gold armors + 22.5k = 52.5k gold from 80c/6s
 
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daily-wise, always the highest.
only exception is armor daily (G is for armors, X/N is for gold)

decided to run some numbers under some assumptions for gold:
3 N runs = (assuming 40% base rate) 3 / 5 gold armors *3 = 9 gold armors + 27k (9k gold/run) = 81k gold from 72c/6s
2 X runs = (assuming 60% base rate, but assuming 100% drop rate for x1.5) 6/6 gold armors *2 = 12 gold armors + 30k = 102k from 160c/6s
1 G (assuming 100% gold armor drop rate) = 5 gold armors + 22.5k = 52.5k gold from 80c/6s

Thanks for the info. I never look up the drop rates and just do the hardest map I can do.
 
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What should I focus on?
I think I should AW Wendy, don't have the units to AW Hibari. Sitting on the black ticket since I don't have the healers for B.Iris.
imgur.com/a/AduKu

Domination maps
40 - 500 - 20 tries = 800 cha
35 - 400 - 25 tries = 875 cha
30 - 300 - 33 tries = 990 cha + 15 cha
15 - 100 - 100tries = 1500 cha

Haven't done the domination and the drop rate event make it so difficult to spend cha on the domination.
 
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I honestly dont get why you dont lvl 2 of the top tier blacks in this game actually. Fiores usability too cheese Majin Maps is really good for people with Burst units from the ranged category. Sieglinde saw is really strong in combination with several Buffs, which gives her the ability too one-shot that one White fat Golem in the Magic City Map.
 
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