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Again, only my opinion. But how a person should've went about when they started DMM a month ago, that's up to them; and everybody's level of commitment (amount of time/energy/money/interest given to the game) is different. But yeah, if two persons who spend the exact amount of energy and money and level of intensity into the same game within the same time frame, and the results are drastically different, then one of them is probably going about it wrong.
 
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Erm guys. I just used B.Iris on lvl 9 against 2nd Form of Vepar and saw that my Grace took way less DMG then I thought she would. How in the hell is a Tornado/hurricane attack physical from Nature o.o

EDIT: Is lvl 10 Vepar easier then lvl 9 one? Did lvl 10 one in 2 tries even if i used a guide. Compared to lvl 9 it was way less attemps.
 
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Erm guys. I just used B.Iris on lvl 9 against 2nd Form of Vepar and saw that my Grace took way less DMG then I thought she would. How in the hell is a Tornado/hurricane attack physical from Nature o.o

EDIT: Is lvl 10 Vepar easier then lvl 9 one? Did lvl 10 one in 2 tries even if i used a guide. Compared to lvl 9 it was way less attemps.

>gets to level 9
>didnt realize vepar was physical dmg

...how? sounds like you used grace to tank vepar; she gets double def during skill. you didnt use her skill to blast those annoying slardars while tanking her?

fuujin from oriental maps throw tornadoes as well. it's physical as well. we even saw him a couple of times. ._.
 
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I used AW Prince Prior to getting to lvl 9 to Tank vepar. But I should have realized it before already that it is physical because he can't Dodge magical attack or am I wrong about that fact?
 
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Yeah I completely agree, I have no CC'ed Gold or above Archers but I have 3 Silver 50 CC 55 Archers at 100% affectionate. They are so powerful that I forgot I needed a better one until I reached the Magic Kingdom story maps, and it is biting me back now ouch! But the thing is, how did I never realize I needed a better one up until now?

#silverunitsareop , not in the sense of pure stats, they are just viable enough for a most maps.
 
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I used AW Prince Prior to getting to lvl 9 to Tank vepar. But I should have realized it before already that it is physical because he can't Dodge magical attack or am I wrong about that fact?

you can't dodge magic, yes. but AW prince skill can nullify magic. Rinne's skill gives 30% dodge to AW prince though, if that was what you were using.

@unknown I'm really surprised you didnt bother getting spica from last TP.
 
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Oh yeah his skill was nullifying dmg and not dodging. Well i had used prior to getting B.Iris, Saria, G.Iris and Marle to heal incoming dmg from Vepar.
 
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@unknown I'm really surprised you didnt bother getting spica from last TP.

Well, I can never beat the 'but awakening fairy only cost 100' argument in my head... I guess only the day I have nothing to awaken, Spica can finally become a possibility...

Edit: Spica is still in the Trading Post... soo maybe... just maybe... this 1.5x drop event might just make it
 
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Well, I can never beat the 'but awakening fairy only cost 100' argument in my head... I guess only the day I have nothing to awaken, Spica can finally become a possibility...

Edit: Spica is still in the Trading Post... soo maybe... just maybe... this 1.5x drop event might just make it

She is really worth spending some SC to farm the crystals. As always, unless u have premium archers/pirates.
 
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Doesn't Spica still generally hold as the third best archer in the game, and only because the first two are black units?

No reason not to have her. She should be a priority for every player. Even if you have better archers, just having her AW in the party makes them even better.
 
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So, does Golden Armor N really have 5 golden armor drops with 61 % drop chance (or 91 % during this event)? That way it would be a lot better than H or X.

Edit: I just tested it: It's definitely 5 drops, drop chance seems to be lower than 91 % though (in the limited amount of data points^^), so I assume it's 41 % (or 61% during the event; seems about right, I got 3 drops on average in the runs I made) like the E map? Still, Gold/Sta is equal to H and Gold/Cha is better than H. Only Tin Can drop chance is lower (about half per Stamina), but they are not my priority right now.
 
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I love how people assume that just because I played on Nutaku I should be an expert and what am I even doing not minmaxing shit immediately, I must be dumb as hell. Thing is, I never had to do that in Nutaku. Since Nutaku is running at half speed with revivals being a very recent thing and no TP rotation, the amount of units available for a free player were very, VERY limited. As such I just always leveled whatever was available to the point where before AW became available I essentially ran out of units to level. As such I never had to think what units to level to beat a map. I didn't try Immortal Beast seriously until after we had Karma, and with her being a good lightning rod, it was relatively easy. Hell, the only level where I seriously had to level units just to get it done was Danger in Oasis.

Here I don't have time to level anything, my barracks are already full with all kinds of units that I don't want to throw away. There's always some new event going on and I have no idea whether the event units are good or not, since, well, they are new. On Nutaku I knew what was good and what was meh days before the events would've even started. Because I knew what unit did what and how relevant were they in the upcoming events' meta.

And if it's just figuring out a tactic, I can do that, thank you very much, I'm not as stupid as you guys apparently take me for. I did the cannoneer map on my second try, and the first map with those strong as hell onis on my third one, because I figured out how to avoid taking damage pretty fast. The reason you don't hear about that is because I just move on, since it's not really worthy of mentioning. I come up here when I got stuck on something or when something spectacular happens. And then I get nothing but "oh, this is easy you should've just do it no problem" and the link a strategy that does not work, because I don't have the stats to make it work. With the 90/12 100+ enemies map the reason I didn't try the silver tactic was because my silvers are not maxed out and I thought they would be overwhelmed. And you know what? They were. Last night I tried it and I got worse results than with my own strategy. That map was absolutely unbeatable with what I have. But nooooo, that cannot possibly be, this is such a noob friendly event, I must be a moron for not doing better, right?

As for why Fayne is doing better, well for one, he's probably better than me figuring out tactics. But there's also the fact, that he got Livre from a premium pull very early on, so he could easily rush through the story maps and reach the desert. On the other hand I had to use lvl 10 irons to level out my units enough so that I can pass Castle Retake. That took weeks. Also, he has a much better Emperor than I do thanks to this. So basically he has at least two units that could beat the snot out of my entire team. Equal resources my ass.

And as I final point, I came over from Nutaku so that I could experience all the cool shit: a slew of new units and events (remember, most things in the daily rotation were completely new to me as well). So that's what I'm focused on. I don't want to level the same old boring units I've been using for over a year on Nutaku, to grind the dailies using the same old tactics and grind the same old story maps when I have all the shiny new stuff to look at. It's boring to do so. And it's immensely frustrating to see event after event passing me by not even trying for a higher grade reward and only getting subpar versions of the units. If you tell me to just ignore all that and focus on grinding story maps and level the same old core team (mostly silvers), then don't bother. Because if that's the only way to get anywhere, then I probably should just quit. Because I sure as shit don't have the patience to do the slow grind for a second time. That's why I opted for leveling premium/event units instead of silvers and only resorted to leveling silvers where I had no other alternative. And I mostly intend to continue to do so. I will level some more key silver units, but overall I'll keep focusing on higher tier units, especially the ones that are new to me.
 
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when i swapped to dmm a while back i focused very little on silvers and in fact still dont have many maxed though i will say if i did so i may have got more event units better cr/skill and potentially easier though i dont regret it

also some old units are still amazing i didnt like using them either but they got me through the challenges dmm presented only recently thanks to amazing gatcha pulls did i feel a need to start replacing them
 
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I love how people assume that just because I played on Nutaku I should be an expert and what am I even doing not minmaxing shit immediately, I must be dumb as hell. Thing is, I never had to do that in Nutaku. Since Nutaku is running at half speed with revivals being a very recent thing and no TP rotation, the amount of units available for a free player were very, VERY limited. As such I just always leveled whatever was available to the point where before AW became available I essentially ran out of units to level. As such I never had to think what units to level to beat a map. I didn't try Immortal Beast seriously until after we had Karma, and with her being a good lightning rod, it was relatively easy. Hell, the only level where I seriously had to level units just to get it done was Danger in Oasis.

Here I don't have time to level anything, my barracks are already full with all kinds of units that I don't want to throw away. There's always some new event going on and I have no idea whether the event units are good or not, since, well, they are new. On Nutaku I knew what was good and what was meh days before the events would've even started. Because I knew what unit did what and how relevant were they in the upcoming events' meta.

And if it's just figuring out a tactic, I can do that, thank you very much, I'm not as stupid as you guys apparently take me for. I did the cannoneer map on my second try, and the first map with those strong as hell onis on my third one, because I figured out how to avoid taking damage pretty fast. The reason you don't hear about that is because I just move on, since it's not really worthy of mentioning. I come up here when I got stuck on something or when something spectacular happens. And then I get nothing but "oh, this is easy you should've just do it no problem" and the link a strategy that does not work, because I don't have the stats to make it work. With the 90/12 100+ enemies map the reason I didn't try the silver tactic was because my silvers are not maxed out and I thought they would be overwhelmed. And you know what? They were. Last night I tried it and I got worse results than with my own strategy. That map was absolutely unbeatable with what I have. But nooooo, that cannot possibly be, this is such a noob friendly event, I must be a moron for not doing better, right?

As for why Fayne is doing better, well for one, he's probably better than me figuring out tactics. But there's also the fact, that he got Livre from a premium pull very early on, so he could easily rush through the story maps and reach the desert. On the other hand I had to use lvl 10 irons to level out my units enough so that I can pass Castle Retake. That took weeks. Also, he has a much better Emperor than I do thanks to this. So basically he has at least two units that could beat the snot out of my entire team. Equal resources my ass.

And as I final point, I came over from Nutaku so that I could experience all the cool shit: a slew of new units and events (remember, most things in the daily rotation were completely new to me as well). So that's what I'm focused on. I don't want to level the same old boring units I've been using for over a year on Nutaku, to grind the dailies using the same old tactics and grind the same old story maps when I have all the shiny new stuff to look at. It's boring to do so. And it's immensely frustrating to see event after event passing me by not even trying for a higher grade reward and only getting subpar versions of the units. If you tell me to just ignore all that and focus on grinding story maps and level the same old core team (mostly silvers), then don't bother. Because if that's the only way to get anywhere, then I probably should just quit. Because I sure as shit don't have the patience to do the slow grind for a second time. That's why I opted for leveling premium/event units instead of silvers and only resorted to leveling silvers where I had no other alternative. And I mostly intend to continue to do so. I will level some more key silver units, but overall I'll keep focusing on higher tier units, especially the ones that are new to me.

Don't sweet it. There is group of otherwise respectable players who seem to enjoy to criticize anyone who won't "minmax everything in the light of majins meta", or fail to find some fact that a certain user called Petite <something> posted 3 pages ago.

On the other hand, u should naturally not expect a lot of effort on our part to answer things without demonstrating an equal effort to find the answer yourself and things like that.
 
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Thing is, I never had to do that in Nutaku.
Here I don't have time to level anything. And then I get nothing but "oh, this is easy you should've just do it no problem" and the link a strategy that does not work, because I don't have the stats to make it work. With the 90/12 100+ enemies map the reason I didn't try the silver tactic was because my silvers are not maxed out and I thought they would be overwhelmed. And you know what? They were. Last night I tried it and I got worse results than with my own strategy. That map was absolutely unbeatable with what I have. But nooooo, that cannot possibly be, this is such a noob friendly event, I must be a moron for not doing better, right?

As for why Fayne is doing better, well for one, he's probably better than me figuring out tactics. But there's also the fact, that he got Livre from a premium pull very early on, so he could easily rush through the story maps and reach the desert. On the other hand I had to use lvl 10 irons to level out my units enough so that I can pass Castle Retake. That took weeks. Also, he has a much better Emperor than I do thanks to this. So basically he has at least two units that could beat the snot out of my entire team. Equal resources my ass.

And as I final point, I came over from Nutaku so that I could experience all the cool shit: a slew of new units and events (remember, most things in the daily rotation were completely new to me as well). So that's what I'm focused on. I don't want to level the same old boring units I've been using for over a year on Nutaku, to grind the dailies using the same old tactics and grind the same old story maps when I have all the shiny new stuff to look at. It's boring to do so. And it's immensely frustrating to see event after event passing me by not even trying for a higher grade reward and only getting subpar versions of the units. If you tell me to just ignore all that and focus on grinding story maps and level the same old core team (mostly silvers), then don't bother. Because if that's the only way to get anywhere, then I probably should just quit. Because I sure as shit don't have the patience to do the slow grind for a second time. That's why I opted for leveling premium/event units instead of silvers and only resorted to leveling silvers where I had no other alternative. And I mostly intend to continue to do so. I will level some more key silver units, but overall I'll keep focusing on higher tier units, especially the ones that are new to me.

A couple things I want to point out. You still had to create a core team on Nutaku regardless of the pace. You needed a core team to do any event, even the early ones. You still needed healers, blockers, ranged, mages, witches, etc in order to clear everything you cleared before. Regardless of the pace, you needed a core team capable of handling the events. That includes silvers and farming affection items.

You say you have no time to level units, that's because you're burning away all your stamina and charisma on experimenting with event maps you may not be able to clear proficiently with your current team. You're deliberately wasting your resources inefficiently and complaining you can't do content you don't have the team for.

Looking at your signature, your primary team is not CCed, and as you mentioned you haven't given affection to the majority of them. This is exactly why you're struggling. You're trying to skip steps. Its that easy. You can't go from having nothing to having a team capable of doing events. You need to power them up. This 1.5x drop event is a perfect time to do so. You can get plenty of affection for your females and get plenty of fodder from maps.

Nobody is saying you have to use the same units you have on Nutaku and nobody is saying you should quit DMM. What you're being told is that you need a core before you can progress into higher content.

Don't sweet it. There is group of otherwise respectable players who seem to enjoy to criticize anyone who won't "minmax everything in the light of majins meta", or fail to find some fact that a certain user called Petite <something> posted 3 pages ago.

On the other hand, u should naturally not expect a lot of effort on our part to answer things without demonstrating an equal effort to find the answer yourself and things like that.

It's not even about criticizing a lack of min maxing. These are game basics that can be found in nearly any introductory guide. You need a core team. Without one you will not be able to clear much of anything.
 
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I don't get it - what was before
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and now, after some time
i91.fastpic.ru/big/2017/0105/ad/0f3bb7e34de8a9453caaa4ff74c24aad.jpg

wtf? Are they changed abilities of some silvers or what? What is this new ability mean? 5% of what?
 
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That 15 life for AW orbs is huge you can now put Leda and get your orbs very easy.

On another note is there a table or something about what can resist death? It was unexpected in today orb map to see the 2 black armors and Despia be instant deleted by Rosa I though all special units were immune (the others 3 runs she resisted); and was sad that in the orcs story missions the purple orc to have a high resistant to death.
 
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5% more attack power. You can also recognize it because of the 18 attack power difference from the old and new screenshot.
 
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A couple things I want to point out. You still had to create a core team on Nutaku regardless of the pace. You needed a core team to do any event, even the early ones. You still needed healers, blockers, ranged, mages, witches, etc in order to clear everything you cleared before. Regardless of the pace, you needed a core team capable of handling the events. That includes silvers and farming affection items.

You say you have no time to level units, that's because you're burning away all your stamina and charisma on experimenting with event maps you may not be able to clear proficiently with your current team. You're deliberately wasting your resources inefficiently and complaining you can't do content you don't have the team for.

Looking at your signature, your primary team is not CCed, and as you mentioned you haven't given affection to the majority of them. This is exactly why you're struggling. You're trying to skip steps. Its that easy. You can't go from having nothing to having a team capable of doing events. You need to power them up. This 1.5x drop event is a perfect time to do so. You can get plenty of affection for your females and get plenty of fodder from maps.

Nobody is saying you have to use the same units you have on Nutaku and nobody is saying you should quit DMM. What you're being told is that you need a core before you can progress into higher content.



It's not even about criticizing a lack of min maxing. These are game basics that can be found in nearly any introductory guide. You need a core team. Without one you will not be able to clear much of anything.

My point is that I had no concept of "core team" on Nutaku. I almost never had to prioritise until Aw became a thing. When I started out there Anya's first event was on and I really wanted to get Dorania, so I blew all of my free SC into grinding. I remember that I sat in the library and for like 6 hours straight I just grinded, autoleveled and did Monday dailies. i got something like 4-5 plat armors and about a million gold doing the N daily map. I used that to powerlevel most of my units to CC20 or so. That naturally became my "core team" afterwards. And of course I leveled silvers, because I had nothing else to level. I had Katie, Kerry, Cloris and a bit later Mehlis. That was all. There was no real decision making there, I just leveled everything. Because pretty much all of the decent units fit into a single team. On dmm they don't even fit in my barracks.

And that picture in my signature was woefully out of date, so I updated it just now. As you can see I actually do have a core team of CC'd and properly leveled units. It's just not quite enough yet. And I mostly go for the generally most useful ones, so if I run into map that bans a class or something, then I'm pretty fucked.
 
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