RPG RPG Maker [Eclipse works] Ariadne (RJ120635)

[etigoya]

Re: [RJ120635] [Eclipse works] Ariadne

For quest 28, is says "talk to man sleep in convent's right side room" I assumed this was the guy sleeping in the inn's right room. But nothing new happens... Help?

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[Diagasvesle]

Re: [RJ120635] [Eclipse works] Ariadne

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Ah. You mean an entirely different area, not the convent in that ruined town.

 

[etigoya]

Re: [RJ120635] [Eclipse works] Ariadne

Anyone got any tips for the Arena champion? Guy keeps critting me for 800+. I assume there's some item that might protect against this.

avoid high + spell, he cant hit u hehe

 

[gamefreak999]

Re: [RJ120635] [Eclipse works] Ariadne

Full name of game is Ariadne the Incarnation. So the author is comparing our heroine to the Greek myth concerning the daughter of Minos. See wiki on myth here:

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Hmm I still don't see how the 2 stories are related but I guess that's the explanation.

I was certain the fat guy you meet in the beginning would have a part in the story later on but never came out.
In the earlier demos from last year, he had his own standing picture and everything which would indicate that he was a main character. I'm guessing that the story would have been somewhat like the game Valkyrie Destruction by Poison where the guy partner would be pretty much an interference holding back the heroine from achieving her goal. This change would probably explain the game being delayed for so long.

 

[madman3237]

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Hmm I still don't see how the 2 stories are related but I guess that's the explanation.

I was certain the fat guy you meet in the beginning would have a part in the story later on but never came out.
In the earlier demos from last year, he had his own standing picture and everything which would indicate that he was a main character. I'm guessing that the story would have been somewhat like the game Valkyrie Destruction by Poison where the guy partner would be pretty much an interference holding back the heroine from achieving her goal. This change would probably explain the game being delayed for so long.

Could well be the case. They had a major contributor quit recently as well and that could be related. Googlish for blog news item.

Report on NEW! 2014. 5. 13. Circle former representative withdrawal


And served as director and main illustrator Magica, was responsible for the original part in Ariade
Because it was that old circle Jonos representative to continue to coterie activity by various circumstances is difficult ,
We will inform you that you have left the Circle in 2014 the end of March .

Do not forget always the " pursuit of entertainment ", which is the basic philosophy Circle members all of us , of the establishment ,
Because we will continue to devote myself so that it will meet your expectations of everyone , thank you kindly to our circle in the future .

Eclipse works.

 

[Nr123]

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Could well be the case. They had a major contributor quit recently as well and that could be related. Googlish for blog news item.

so he quit make game now...its our fault how sad.

 

[Papuru]

Re: [RJ120635] [Eclipse works] Ariadne

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avoid high + spell, he cant hit u hehe

He always uses two Crit -boosting buffs in a row before using his ultimate skill, so just use Parry after he's used those. Simple.

 

[Nekohunter]

Re: [RJ120635] [Eclipse works] Ariadne

Hm... seem that they are gonna release a new version to fix the balance of the game. Wonder if i read it correctly?

 

[duck666]

Re: [RJ120635] [Eclipse works] Ariadne

I think the balancing is fine. Lvl 99 and skill able to be killed by simple mobs. They can "balance it" by making skill learning faster, and adding more and better equipments. Preferably, a 4th accessory slot.

 

[madman3237]

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Hm... seem that they are gonna release a new version to fix the balance of the game. Wonder if i read it correctly?

Already been done, I believe in ver 1.02. Version 1.03 now out and 1.04 forthcoming. No one has posted the new versions and I haven't purchased (yet). Wouldn't do anyone else any good as I can't upload that big a file with my ISP.

I think the balancing is fine. Lvl 99 and skill able to be killed by simple mobs. They can "balance it" by making skill learning faster, and adding more and better equipments. Preferably, a 4th accessory slot.

From etigoya's walkthrough (edited):

For easy get skill

1. use "Revelatory Drop"
   
   , better before boss fight use it, metal mob easy up skill too
   
2. equip 天啓の髪飾り (quest 27 reward or can buy in fairy town, orc selling, 6th one)
3. equip skill scroll
   
   (magic book
   
   cant get skill), keep use the equip skill until get it

When I posted earlier that I had a sudden increase in flashes for skills, I had used the "Revelatory Drop" just before that point. Used it just to try to see what it did but did not realize it had caused skills to flash at that time. I didn't even equip the scrolls, just had them in inventory. Was fighting in desert and came upon the "metal mob" (shiny silver blob) which always drops a +50 stamina bracelet.

 

[Yugifan3]

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Well, technically you do not need to upload the images, just the data folder.
Isn't that smaller for you to upload madman3237?

 

[madman3237]

Re: [RJ120635] [Eclipse works] Ariadne

Well, technically you do not need to upload the images, just the data folder.
Isn't that smaller for you to upload madman3237?

Really? Hmm.... I guess that makes sense. At least for people using partial translation.

Okay. I have download limitations (satellite "Fair Access Policy") as well so must make big downloads in the wee hours when I have a free period. Since I was up most of night last night, I'll probably wait for 1.04 to be released to buy, d/l and post data.

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For the partial translation, using the following files from it on new version should not affect their changes - right?

Weapons, Skills, Items and Armors rvdata2 files.

BTW: the description for the Lightning Stab skill says that it consumes (image). But has no text for the image. I now know that it is the paralysis/electric buff item but that image is used for 4 other items. Was quite confusing. Can you correct that in your next update?

 

[Yugifan3]

Re: [RJ120635] [Eclipse works] Ariadne

Well, kinda small hard to fit in all the text, but ill see what i can do.
And yes, it will affect the translation , but if you don't overwrite skills,items,armors and weapons, but just the maps,scripts and common events.

 

[Sokubus]

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hey,

anyone know whats with that seal behind that dark flame ?

and anyone know how to get that item from that basket in secound area ruin town NW ?

hf

 

[karmapowered]

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I haven't played the demo, but from what I gather reading about the "fat guy" here, I am glad the concept has been dropped by Eclipse works.

Am I the only one for whom it's a MIGHTY turn-off in-game to watch old geezers or fat basement loosers, that have no clue about mental or physiological hygiene, somehow getting their warty dicks sucked by pretty young lasses ?

How about making games instead in which the abused protagonist gets to have a satisfying vengeance on her abusers at the end ? By that I mean hacking off their wangs with a fireaxe, stick some needles through their nuts, or force them to listen to all of Britney Spears albums in a loop for eternity.

Might be as stupid game/anime concept and not really believable, but no less so than virtual chicks that would let themselves getting abused because of futile mobile blackmailing threats or whatever : "oh no, someone just took my picture, and I was nude bathing, the absolute hORROR! Now I can't go to the police anymore, so raep me in the ass, do whatever you want but don't publish the photo please."

Not finding any of the above in this game is part of what that motivated me to buy it, and I don't buy that many H-games to start with. Not because I can't, but because those games are usually quite terrible, and not worth being supported.

Also, what is wrong about balance ? People should replay FF, the original one, some of the older Fire Emblem or Wizardry games, or any decent SHMUPS sometimes, and then complain about balance, really.

 

[dienow]

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Am I the only one for whom it's a MIGHTY turn-off in-game to watch old geezers or fat basement loosers, that have no clue about mental or physiological hygiene, somehow getting their warty dicks sucked by pretty young lasses ?

Welcome to mid 2012-present. Old, fat, dirty, horrendously repulsive men in EVERYTHING. I guess it's impossible to denigrate a woman unless you look like you were born from the ugly tree, and then viciously beaten by it for years.

 

[Torgent]

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I haven't played the demo, but from what I gather reading about the "fat guy" here, I am glad the concept has been dropped by Eclipse works.

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I personally think that the author wanted to put his personal experiences in this game. He, like many of us is a fat nerd with glasses, but he dropped it, because he did not want to be that guy anymore.
And the game got delayed because he was in prison for doing something... Then he instead put his experiences that he made in prison into the game.

Seriously. I could just have gotten the prison part of the game without anything else and instead added content, and I would be happy.
Women getting thrown in Prisons/Cells(Think Arms Devicer or DnP) without a chance to escape is probably the biggest turn on for me.

 

[karmapowered]

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Welcome to mid 2012-present. Old, fat, dirty, horrendously repulsive men in EVERYTHING. I guess it's impossible to denigrate a woman unless you look like you were born from the ugly tree, and then viciously beaten by it for years.

First, let me be clear in that I have no particular prejudice towards either fat people or nerds (if I am definitely not fat, I probably qualify as a nerd, being on this forum and all).

Next, it is exactly as you say. While I can respect someone's fetishes like anyone else, even more so if they appear in a game not of my doing (I just could create my own, I guess), there's a thing or two worth being said about boring repetitiveness and room for exploring other fetishes than those that we get to see over and over and over again in every fucking damn H-game released recently.

I have no illusion about it going to continue, and "Nippon always going to Nippon" in matters of eroges, but if I could motivate at least ONE author to come up with something different (dare I say mature and original?) in the future, especially if they aim to target a gaijin public (which also can appreciate this particular kind of games and does have money to spend on them, mind you), I feel it would be worth it.

So what is different you might ask ? For one, if the usual premise seems good to me, setting a hero/heroine in a predicament (being captured, abused, whatever), I would love to see it happening in a context/story that doesn't insult the intelligence of the average player.

Blackmailing as threat is good for narrative purposes if it's "believable". Eroge games created twenty years ago managed to present such situations in much more credible (and arousing!) ways than it's done nowadays. I don't want H-games/VNs to become anything "intellectual" or literary masterpieces overnight, if ever (like your usual pr0n movie, they're created with fapping in mind, first and foremost).

However, proof with this game (and others, like Arms Devicer, Haru Uru, Princess Sacrifice, Vampire Princess Heart, Sword Princess Cistina, etc., etc.) that you don't fucking need to make your eroge hero/heroine so fucking dumb, or the molesters so fucking outlandish (for the huge majority of players anyway), that the game is facepalming inducing instead of fap worthy. If I feel compelled to laugh at the sheer "stupidity" of some situations in-game, I feel the H-game achieves the contrary of what it should (and what I potentially would have bought it for).

So yeah, I'd love to see a H-game with REAL mind fuckery, with real corruption (not the fairly land-one, in which dirty old men/fat nerds somehow always seem to get the best spoils) or BDSM situations that come close to the real thing, because that's what appeals to me as an "adult/mature" fetish. I'd love to play a game in which the hero/heroine gets to be molested because of cunning deception, or because of threats that can be perceived as credible, either as a true danger ("say hello to my friend the knife here?") or as something that could potentially be very satisfying sexually but with huge risks.

Ideally the game would also give the player the option to actually turn the tides at the very end, and seek vengeance (like I've explained in my previous post). Gosh, I would buy the crap out of this DLsite release.

Keep producing/torrenting your standard mindnumbing nukiges, why not, I am (mostly) against any kind of censoring, but make the above happen one day, please. There's hope with good games like this one I guess, and AA2 in the near future hopefully being more challenging/interesting than a simple dress-my-doll clickfest too.

 

[PrivateEyes]

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First, let me be clear in that I have no particular prejudice towards either fat people or nerds (if I am definitely not fat, I probably qualify as a nerd, being on this forum and all).

Next, it is exactly as you say. While I can respect someone's fetishes like anyone else, even more so if they appear in a game not of my doing (I just could create my own, I guess), there's a thing or two worth being said about boring repetitiveness and room for exploring other fetishes than those that we get to see over and over and over again in every fucking damn H-game released recently.

I have no illusion about it going to continue, and "Nippon always going to Nippon" in matters of eroges, but if I could motivate at least ONE author to come up with something different (dare I say mature and original?) in the future, especially if they aim to target a gaijin public (which also can appreciate this particular kind of games and does have money to spend on them, mind you), I feel it would be worth it.

So what is different you might ask ? For one, if the usual premise seems good to me, setting a hero/heroine in a predicament (being captured, abused, whatever), I would love to see it happening in a context/story that doesn't insult the intelligence of the average player.

Blackmailing as threat is good for narrative purposes if it's "believable". Eroge games created twenty years ago managed to present such situations in much more credible (and arousing!) ways than it's done nowadays. I don't want H-games/VNs to become anything "intellectual" or literary masterpieces overnight, if ever (like your usual pr0n movie, they're created with fapping in mind, first and foremost).

However, proof with this game (and others, like Arms Devicer, Haru Uru, Princess Sacrifice, Vampire Princess Heart, Sword Princess Cistina, etc., etc.) that you don't fucking need to make your eroge hero/heroine so fucking dumb, or the molesters so fucking outlandish (for the huge majority of players anyway), that the game is facepalming inducing instead of fap worthy. If I feel compelled to laugh at the sheer "stupidity" of some situations in-game, I feel the H-game achieves the contrary of what it should (and what I potentially would have bought it for).

So yeah, I'd love to see a H-game with REAL mind fuckery, with real corruption (not the fairly land-one, in which dirty old men/fat nerds somehow always seem to get the best spoils) or BDSM situations that come close to the real thing, because that's what appeals to me as an "adult/mature" fetish. I'd love to play a game in which the hero/heroine gets to be molested because of cunning deception, or because of threats that can be perceived as credible, either as a true danger ("say hello to my friend the knife here?") or as something that could potentially be very satisfying sexually but with huge risks.

Ideally the game would also give the player the option to actually turn the tides at the very end, and seek vengeance (like I've explained in my previous post). Gosh, I would buy the crap out of this DLsite release.

Keep producing/torrenting your standard mindnumbing nukiges, why not, I am (mostly) against any kind of censoring, but make the above happen one day, please. There's hope with good games like this one I guess, and AA2 in the near future hopefully being more challenging/interesting than a simple dress-my-doll clickfest too.

Soooooo.... replace fat, old men with tentacles?

 

[karmapowered]

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Soooooo.... replace fat, old men with tentacles?

I knew someone would come up with that ^.^

I really hesitated to put Princess Sacrifice up there, but it's such a good game that I deserves to be quoted (there are plenty others I forgot/didn't mention too, of course).

Well, yeah, "tentacles/demons" in that game did not seem as "outlandish" as other stuff that I found in "Guhihihi Buhihihi" Nukiges that I will refrain from posting about here, for the sake of not further spamming this thread with OT "wall-o'-text" comments.

Hopefully, you still managed to get my main point, and I am sure you did.