Four Elements Trainer - Book 1 and 2 Complete! [v0.5.07c]
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Re: Four Elements Trainer - Book 1 Complete!
Damn guys... Damn! I loved both routes, I generally prefer slave routes, but I must say I really appreciated the love route too
And she's such a sweet girl so it was nice to have the love route too
Damn guys... Damn! I loved both routes, I generally prefer slave routes, but I must say I really appreciated the love route too
And she's such a sweet girl so it was nice to have the love route too 
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Hey Mity I had another question for you.
Is Book 2 going to be a bit easier to design now that Book 1 has a good foundation or is Book 2 going to be made from scratch?
Hey Mity I had another question for you.
Is Book 2 going to be a bit easier to design now that Book 1 has a good foundation or is Book 2 going to be made from scratch?
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Alright, done and it was very good.
Comments/ideas:
Anyway, I really liked this game. The art is great, and i'm looking forward to the book 2.
Alright, done and it was very good.
Comments/ideas:
-The mails are escalading a bit TOO QUICKLY. Since you don't have much stuff to do at night (at first at least), you do that, but it goes overboard when you didn't do anything with anyone else. I think it should pay a bit more, but not be always available. Just make different stages with "no mail tonight" until you are at a high enough respect. Once you are high enough you get the spammable option. Also, why not add some art about it.
-Remove bought items from the shop list (except for potions). The fact they tell you you have already the item is okay, but just remove it would be better, IMO.
-The eyes for the BJ scene (inside) are looking at the camera instead of the character, feel a bit unnatural. By opposition to the Una scene, who is looking to the character when the posture is kind of the same.
-Kid missing quest start "The mooselions are incredibly viscious" -> vicious.
-Slave -> Doing the bending action -> Anal without doing anal before leads to 3/3 anal and missing the first two scenes.
-Lover -> the scenes can go from 1/3 to 3/3 skipping the second scene if your affection is too high.
About the passage of time. I know it doesn't matter too much since there is no timer, but still:
-The Market pass time the day, not the night. Feel wasted to go to the market the day. And still, sometimes, you want to (if you forgot to sell the stone the previous night and want to mine, if you want to buy a potion, etc...)
-Asking the council how much you are liked is a bit stupid how it is right now. Since it pass time and doesn't add anything, you ask, you get the answer, and then, you scroll back. You should remove the passage of time for asking, and adding a leave possibility (which doesn't pass time). For instance, talking with Katara doesn't pass the time. It should be the same.
-The fights are a bit too hard in the early game and too easy in the late game. Can't you make the ennemies harder and harder as the affection increase. Make it so the current ennemy is like 15 affection, make it easier before, and harder after. No idea if it's possible, but this way, it would make the training a "help", and not a "something you should finish before trying anything at the hunt".
-Can you add some of the "clothing" option as something more permanent? Something Katara would wear when you meet her? Also, what about some sex scenes with accessories (like the ballgag) or the sharpie, for instance?
-About the mines scenes. I probably missed some, but I mined dozens of times and got only 2 events (the nazi-mooselion something writing and the porn mag). If there is more, you should consider to reduce the number of time you should go in to get everything. If I didn't, forget about that. Some for the alley, if it's only the lesbian scene, it's okay, if there is more, you may have to increase the frequency of appearance
-Remove bought items from the shop list (except for potions). The fact they tell you you have already the item is okay, but just remove it would be better, IMO.
-The eyes for the BJ scene (inside) are looking at the camera instead of the character, feel a bit unnatural. By opposition to the Una scene, who is looking to the character when the posture is kind of the same.
-Kid missing quest start "The mooselions are incredibly viscious" -> vicious.
-Slave -> Doing the bending action -> Anal without doing anal before leads to 3/3 anal and missing the first two scenes.
-Lover -> the scenes can go from 1/3 to 3/3 skipping the second scene if your affection is too high.
About the passage of time. I know it doesn't matter too much since there is no timer, but still:
-The Market pass time the day, not the night. Feel wasted to go to the market the day. And still, sometimes, you want to (if you forgot to sell the stone the previous night and want to mine, if you want to buy a potion, etc...)
-Asking the council how much you are liked is a bit stupid how it is right now. Since it pass time and doesn't add anything, you ask, you get the answer, and then, you scroll back. You should remove the passage of time for asking, and adding a leave possibility (which doesn't pass time). For instance, talking with Katara doesn't pass the time. It should be the same.
-The fights are a bit too hard in the early game and too easy in the late game. Can't you make the ennemies harder and harder as the affection increase. Make it so the current ennemy is like 15 affection, make it easier before, and harder after. No idea if it's possible, but this way, it would make the training a "help", and not a "something you should finish before trying anything at the hunt".
-Can you add some of the "clothing" option as something more permanent? Something Katara would wear when you meet her? Also, what about some sex scenes with accessories (like the ballgag) or the sharpie, for instance?
-About the mines scenes. I probably missed some, but I mined dozens of times and got only 2 events (the nazi-mooselion something writing and the porn mag). If there is more, you should consider to reduce the number of time you should go in to get everything. If I didn't, forget about that. Some for the alley, if it's only the lesbian scene, it's okay, if there is more, you may have to increase the frequency of appearance
Anyway, I really liked this game. The art is great, and i'm looking forward to the book 2.
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Re: Four Elements Trainer - Book 1 Complete!
Alright, done and it was very good.
Comments/ideas:
-The mails are escalading a bit TOO QUICKLY. Since you don't have much stuff to do at night (at first at least), you do that, but it goes overboard when you didn't do anything with anyone else. I think it should pay a bit more, but not be always available. Just make different stages with "no mail tonight" until you are at a high enough respect. Once you are high enough you get the spammable option. Also, why not add some art about it.
-Remove bought items from the shop list (except for potions). The fact they tell you you have already the item is okay, but just remove it would be better, IMO.
-The eyes for the BJ scene (inside) are looking at the camera instead of the character, feel a bit unnatural. By opposition to the Una scene, who is looking to the character when the posture is kind of the same.
-Kid missing quest start "The mooselions are incredibly viscious" -> vicious.
-Slave -> Doing the bending action -> Anal without doing anal before leads to 3/3 anal and missing the first two scenes.
-Lover -> the scenes can go from 1/3 to 3/3 skipping the second scene if your affection is too high.
About the passage of time. I know it doesn't matter too much since there is no timer, but still:
-The Market pass time the day, not the night. Feel wasted to go to the market the day. And still, sometimes, you want to (if you forgot to sell the stone the previous night and want to mine, if you want to buy a potion, etc...)
-Asking the council how much you are liked is a bit stupid how it is right now. Since it pass time and doesn't add anything, you ask, you get the answer, and then, you scroll back. You should remove the passage of time for asking, and adding a leave possibility (which doesn't pass time). For instance, talking with Katara doesn't pass the time. It should be the same.
-The fights are a bit too hard in the early game and too easy in the late game. Can't you make the ennemies harder and harder as the affection increase. Make it so the current ennemy is like 15 affection, make it easier before, and harder after. No idea if it's possible, but this way, it would make the training a "help", and not a "something you should finish before trying anything at the hunt".
-Can you add some of the "clothing" option as something more permanent? Something Katara would wear when you meet her? Also, what about some sex scenes with accessories (like the ballgag) or the sharpie, for instance?
-About the mines scenes. I probably missed some, but I mined dozens of times and got only 2 events (the nazi-mooselion something writing and the porn mag). If there is more, you should consider to reduce the number of time you should go in to get everything. If I didn't, forget about that. Some for the alley, if it's only the lesbian scene, it's okay, if there is more, you may have to increase the frequency of appearance
Anyway, I really liked this game. The art is great, and i'm looking forward to the book 2.
1st or 2nd time I went mining on love route gave me the porn mag. Did entire slave route after and never saw it, although I mined for ~2 months in-game ........
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When i'm on it, once you can invest in the shop (and the scene linked to it), do you have something for giving gold for free?
Actually, you need to talk to Katara during the day. She will mention about her brother saying "It4S MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE" -> Obvious hint. If you don't talk to her, you will never see it, I think.
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I'm glad you enjoyed it! We're going to keep giving two routes per book, though they won't always be so clear-cut as "love/slave".
Well... yes and no. Book 2 is going to be mostly made from scratch, but there will be familiar elements. We'll be changing up a lot of things, but we've certainly learned a lot from making Book 1, and that knowledge will make designing Book 2 much easier.
We're not making any big changes on Book 1 at the moment, but I've jotted these down, and will tackle them as I can. We're striving to strike a balance between new content and edits; it's important that things run smoothly for new players, but new content is where the excitement is, and we get that. That said, we went into Book 1 with a lot of enthusiasm and came out with a lot of experience, so even though we're pretty happy with how Book 1 turned out, we'll be doing quite a few things differently with Book 2.
Damn guys... Damn! I loved both routes, I generally prefer slave routes, but I must say I really appreciated the love route too
I'm glad you enjoyed it! We're going to keep giving two routes per book, though they won't always be so clear-cut as "love/slave".
Well... yes and no. Book 2 is going to be mostly made from scratch, but there will be familiar elements. We'll be changing up a lot of things, but we've certainly learned a lot from making Book 1, and that knowledge will make designing Book 2 much easier.
Alright, done and it was very good.
Comments/ideas:
-The mails are escalading a bit TOO QUICKLY. Since you don't have much stuff to do at night (at first at least), you do that, but it goes overboard when you didn't do anything with anyone else. I think it should pay a bit more, but not be always available. Just make different stages with "no mail tonight" until you are at a high enough respect. Once you are high enough you get the spammable option. Also, why not add some art about it.
-Remove bought items from the shop list (except for potions). The fact they tell you you have already the item is okay, but just remove it would be better, IMO.
-The eyes for the BJ scene (inside) are looking at the camera instead of the character, feel a bit unnatural. By opposition to the Una scene, who is looking to the character when the posture is kind of the same.
-Kid missing quest start "The mooselions are incredibly viscious" -> vicious.
-Slave -> Doing the bending action -> Anal without doing anal before leads to 3/3 anal and missing the first two scenes.
-Lover -> the scenes can go from 1/3 to 3/3 skipping the second scene if your affection is too high.
About the passage of time. I know it doesn't matter too much since there is no timer, but still:
-The Market pass time the day, not the night. Feel wasted to go to the market the day. And still, sometimes, you want to (if you forgot to sell the stone the previous night and want to mine, if you want to buy a potion, etc...)
-Asking the council how much you are liked is a bit stupid how it is right now. Since it pass time and doesn't add anything, you ask, you get the answer, and then, you scroll back. You should remove the passage of time for asking, and adding a leave possibility (which doesn't pass time). For instance, talking with Katara doesn't pass the time. It should be the same.
-The fights are a bit too hard in the early game and too easy in the late game. Can't you make the ennemies harder and harder as the affection increase. Make it so the current ennemy is like 15 affection, make it easier before, and harder after. No idea if it's possible, but this way, it would make the training a "help", and not a "something you should finish before trying anything at the hunt".
-Can you add some of the "clothing" option as something more permanent? Something Katara would wear when you meet her? Also, what about some sex scenes with accessories (like the ballgag) or the sharpie, for instance?
-About the mines scenes. I probably missed some, but I mined dozens of times and got only 2 events (the nazi-mooselion something writing and the porn mag). If there is more, you should consider to reduce the number of time you should go in to get everything. If I didn't, forget about that. Some for the alley, if it's only the lesbian scene, it's okay, if there is more, you may have to increase the frequency of appearance
Anyway, I really liked this game. The art is great, and i'm looking forward to the book 2.
We're not making any big changes on Book 1 at the moment, but I've jotted these down, and will tackle them as I can. We're striving to strike a balance between new content and edits; it's important that things run smoothly for new players, but new content is where the excitement is, and we get that. That said, we went into Book 1 with a lot of enthusiasm and came out with a lot of experience, so even though we're pretty happy with how Book 1 turned out, we'll be doing quite a few things differently with Book 2.
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Keyen is correct in the below quote.
The scene you get when you donate to the shop is the only reward (other than it going towards getting the "investment" quest), though we may consider adding more in the future.
Keyen is correct in the below quote.
The scene you get when you donate to the shop is the only reward (other than it going towards getting the "investment" quest), though we may consider adding more in the future.
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Why not keep it a mystery?? Only flashes and glimpses can be seen?
Hope she upgrades to mysterious fucker.
That would be awesome.
Why not keep it a mystery?? Only flashes and glimpses can be seen?
Hope she upgrades to mysterious fucker.
That would be awesome.
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@MITY : not trying to sound like a spoiled bitch but, perhaps in the next book/if you ever come back to #1, maybe not make 4 endings that are 90% the same and only change a few dialogue/add 1-2 different angles .....
I really like the "1" we got already (girl moving doggy anal is such a marvel) but it would diversify things a bit if all 3 others weren't the same scene with/without people watching you/bukkake or not ...... Dunno what other glorious scenes you could come up with that could equal (can't surpass this 1 anyway) the ending, just other positions/events would be great.
/rant
I really like the "1" we got already (girl moving doggy anal is such a marvel) but it would diversify things a bit if all 3 others weren't the same scene with/without people watching you/bukkake or not ...... Dunno what other glorious scenes you could come up with that could equal (can't surpass this 1 anyway
) the ending, just other positions/events would be great./rant
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Hey, fantastic work! I just added you on patreon, and I hope you keep at it! I'm particularly amazed by how many events you have! I can understand how hard it must be to make so many scenes, but it truly is amazing.
Other than that, love the art, love the writing, and love the game play!
Cheers!
Hey, fantastic work! I just added you on patreon, and I hope you keep at it! I'm particularly amazed by how many events you have! I can understand how hard it must be to make so many scenes, but it truly is amazing.
Other than that, love the art, love the writing, and love the game play!
Cheers!
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I can't believe this is only 1/4 of the game. I've played through both versions, and they are highly distinctive which is very impressive. The art is great, the writing is well done, and best of all the progression isn't grindy.
I have zero significant complaints. About the only minor thing I'd do differently is have footjob be in the slave path since it's a strange thing to have in the "love" route.
I can't believe this is only 1/4 of the game. I've played through both versions, and they are highly distinctive which is very impressive. The art is great, the writing is well done, and best of all the progression isn't grindy.
I have zero significant complaints. About the only minor thing I'd do differently is have footjob be in the slave path since it's a strange thing to have in the "love" route.
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(BJ)
This. And in the same time, the only time you can please her without penetration is in the slave route
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I'm glad! Trust me, there's plenty more on the way.
We're hard at work on Book 2, and hope to have something awesome to share in the next few weeks.
She just wants to
I'm glad you liked the ending! To your point, though, the endings for Book 2 are still a good distance away, but will be very different depending on your route. Book 1 won't be seeing much change right now.
Thank you so much kingalaric! We really just wanted to make something awesome, and the response and support have blown us away. We've gotten a lot of positive and constructive feedback, and we've certainly learned a hell of a lot. Exciting stuff is coming up in Book 2!
Katara's pretty experimental in the "love" route, and is still trying to figure out what's sexy and what isn't. I think the scene would have worked well in either route, but I liked the idea of her trying to make you happy in uncertain ways at a progression that left her comfortable, and the footjob seemed to fit there.
I like to think she enjoys herself even without penetration, but I see what you mean. I've made a note to explore that a bit more going forwards.
I enjoyed it a lot, the art is amazing.
I can't wait to see how this grows a grows...
I'm glad! Trust me, there's plenty more on the way.
We're hard at work on Book 2, and hope to have something awesome to share in the next few weeks.
She just wants to
suck you off and go about her business. Can't you give her some privacy?
@MITY : not trying to sound like a spoiled bitch but, perhaps in the next book/if you ever come back to #1, maybe not make 4 endings that are 90% the same and only change a few dialogue/add 1-2 different angles .....
I really like the "1" we got already (girl moving doggy anal is such a marvel) but it would diversify things a bit if all 3 others weren't the same scene with/without people watching you/bukkake or not ...... Dunno what other glorious scenes you could come up with that could equal (can't surpass this 1 anyway
/rant
I'm glad you liked the ending! To your point, though, the endings for Book 2 are still a good distance away, but will be very different depending on your route. Book 1 won't be seeing much change right now.
Hey, fantastic work! I just added you on patreon, and I hope you keep at it! I'm particularly amazed by how many events you have! I can understand how hard it must be to make so many scenes, but it truly is amazing.
Other than that, love the art, love the writing, and love the game play!
Cheers!
Thank you so much kingalaric! We really just wanted to make something awesome, and the response and support have blown us away. We've gotten a lot of positive and constructive feedback, and we've certainly learned a hell of a lot. Exciting stuff is coming up in Book 2!
Katara's pretty experimental in the "love" route, and is still trying to figure out what's sexy and what isn't. I think the scene would have worked well in either route, but I liked the idea of her trying to make you happy in uncertain ways at a progression that left her comfortable, and the footjob seemed to fit there.
This. And in the same time, the only time you can please her without penetration is in the slave route
I like to think she enjoys herself even without penetration, but I see what you mean. I've made a note to explore that a bit more going forwards.
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@MITY again
@MITY again
If you keep the boob size scrolls, maybe make her react to it (even if she doesn't know it's your fault). In book 1, you can go from 32A to 36D overnight and she doesn't bat an eyelash about it ......
"My boobs gained 4 sizes and 3 cups within a day ? No biggie, it's normal for girls my age" < That's what I thought at first. You could even make it like an event with #/# and have the 2 of them interact about it (avatar can play the guillible slob who doesn't know wtf happened either)
"My boobs gained 4 sizes and 3 cups within a day ? No biggie, it's normal for girls my age" < That's what I thought at first. You could even make it like an event with #/# and have the 2 of them interact about it (avatar can play the guillible slob who doesn't know wtf happened either
)