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Damn, saw the story, didn't know that's how it was. "Fun" fact, you're actually a lot safer in the front seats than the back because crumple zones deliberately prioritize the seats that people are more likely to be in.
Damn, saw the story, didn't know that's how it was. "Fun" fact, you're actually a lot safer in the front seats than the back because crumple zones deliberately prioritize the seats that people are more likely to be in.
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Throwing a little humor at high-schoolers is a heck of a good idea, I think.
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It's enforceable in two ways. One, granting police the same level of intelligence gathering and universal surveillance techniques granted to CSIS or making CSIS do it.
Two, and the most likely, deputize all citizens to report all instances of suspicious behavior to the local police, possibly providing incentives to do so, creating a network of trusted informants. If this sounds familiar, it should, we've seen it played out a few times in history.
In both cases we are creating the classic problem with Big Brother. If all illegal or unlawful acts are observed, the police may choose to either enforce all of them, none of them, or more likely, enforce them arbitrarily. This allows the suppression of "problem elements."
Obviously this is not the intent of this bill, but as history has proven, Intent is Irrelevant. All that matters is what the bill states.
It's enforceable in two ways. One, granting police the same level of intelligence gathering and universal surveillance techniques granted to CSIS or making CSIS do it.
Two, and the most likely, deputize all citizens to report all instances of suspicious behavior to the local police, possibly providing incentives to do so, creating a network of trusted informants. If this sounds familiar, it should, we've seen it played out a few times in history.
In both cases we are creating the classic problem with Big Brother. If all illegal or unlawful acts are observed, the police may choose to either enforce all of them, none of them, or more likely, enforce them arbitrarily. This allows the suppression of "problem elements."
Obviously this is not the intent of this bill, but as history has proven, Intent is Irrelevant. All that matters is what the bill states.
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Could just make it legal for people with some kind of evidence of their actions to give them a good thrashing. Empower the public to police itself!
Could just make it legal for people with some kind of evidence of their actions to give them a good thrashing. Empower the public to police itself!
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It was pretty well known that coppers would drag toe rags into allyways to give them a good clip around the ear hole, up until the 80s.
Then corporal punishment got banned on the street and in the schools and 30 years later you have a generation of cocky shits that think they're untouchable.
It was pretty well known that coppers would drag toe rags into allyways to give them a good clip around the ear hole, up until the 80s.
Then corporal punishment got banned on the street and in the schools and 30 years later you have a generation of cocky shits that think they're untouchable.
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Aside from the moral issues, there are still massive practical problems with this. Deputizing citizens would probably just create a ton of "he said vs. he said"-situations, which aren't easy to quickly crack out, and even if you granted police the necessary surveillance rights, it's laughable to believe that there would be enough funding, manpower and infrastructure to oversee it. I mean, in some hypothetical dimension where bylaws received the utmost level of priority, maybe, but that's just stretching a hypothetical to its (il)logical conclusion for the sake of an argument. I mean, shit, even Gestapo was constantly undermanned and underfunded.
Aside from the moral issues, there are still massive practical problems with this. Deputizing citizens would probably just create a ton of "he said vs. he said"-situations, which aren't easy to quickly crack out, and even if you granted police the necessary surveillance rights, it's laughable to believe that there would be enough funding, manpower and infrastructure to oversee it. I mean, in some hypothetical dimension where bylaws received the utmost level of priority, maybe, but that's just stretching a hypothetical to its (il)logical conclusion for the sake of an argument. I mean, shit, even Gestapo was constantly undermanned and underfunded.
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Oh I know. This isn't the first time one of these bylaws was passed in Canada. Regina had one. It's had exactly one successful conviction to date.
More amusingly a small town in Alberta passed a ban on swearing and yelling. No idea how that's turned out.
Oh I know. This isn't the first time one of these bylaws was passed in Canada. Regina had one. It's had exactly one successful conviction to date.
More amusingly a small town in Alberta passed a ban on swearing and yelling. No idea how that's turned out.
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It kind of is a good place to test it out
I mean, if you were wanting to code an AI and test its structural integrity, the internet is the most ruthless corruption machine there is. If it can survive the internet it's prolly golden
It kind of is a good place to test it out
I mean, if you were wanting to code an AI and test its structural integrity, the internet is the most ruthless corruption machine there is. If it can survive the internet it's prolly golden
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These people are already in power. You have to understand most people don't consider the ramifications of such actions. City councils and such get tons of legal bullcrap thrown past them. Spending too much time on something that's popular is a good way to get thrown out of power. And there's nothing more popular than protecting children from the big bad bullies.
And there's a good reason for it. Most people remember being bullied at one point or other. Very little get to see the big picture of everyones a bully under the right circumstances. And that it's never a black and white picture.
Unfortunatly, as the police said in the article on Regina, bullying occupies a pretty grey area. Things that are clear cut enough to fall under the bylaw are usually enough to have a criminal charge on their own right. It's a really messy situation where they are basically bound. There's not much that can be done about it.
These people are already in power. You have to understand most people don't consider the ramifications of such actions. City councils and such get tons of legal bullcrap thrown past them. Spending too much time on something that's popular is a good way to get thrown out of power. And there's nothing more popular than protecting children from the big bad bullies.
And there's a good reason for it. Most people remember being bullied at one point or other. Very little get to see the big picture of everyones a bully under the right circumstances. And that it's never a black and white picture.
Unfortunatly, as the police said in the article on Regina, bullying occupies a pretty grey area. Things that are clear cut enough to fall under the bylaw are usually enough to have a criminal charge on their own right. It's a really messy situation where they are basically bound. There's not much that can be done about it.
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Loads of fun in Belgium lately
Google translate fucks up the grammar hard, but in short:
Terrorists kill guard for a nuclear plant and steal his badge. Badge and its access was deactivated as soon as possible.
Loads of fun in Belgium lately
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Google translate fucks up the grammar hard, but in short:
Terrorists kill guard for a nuclear plant and steal his badge. Badge and its access was deactivated as soon as possible.
