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Sorry to rain in your parade but that calculation is worng, dead wrong. You see the amount of REP that you gain in this event is set at 150-150 on the last stage, this bother me so i ask around. It turns out that some events can give something like 100-300 that means you don't always get the 300 REP, meaning some events are ramdom with the REP gain, so in the end you'll end up using more AP.

Well you arent raining on anything really :p

My point is: there is no way to perfect future events without copious amounts of pots (whether you freemium hoarded them over a month or paod for it)

You just reinforced my point so we are in agreement :)

Tldr; dont bother with events too much, unless you pay money

Edit: an example of a game that you can still beat events through time + effort, but need to cough up cash for the really sweet stuff is FKG. Aigis to a certain extent too.
 
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Well you arent raining on anything really :p

My point is: there is no way to perfect future events without copious amounts of pots (whether you freemium hoarded them over a month or paod for it)

You just reinforced my point so we are in agreement :)

Tldr; dont bother with events too much, unless you pay money

WTH? How can you conclude that with the calculation above?

Event duration: 14 days
Time required to hoard the required pots: 19 days

And for you, we shouldn't bother with the events except if we pay?

What do you think, we will have less than 5 days between events?
 
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If future events require the use of gold to reach the top rank (for the UR), I'll probably end up leaving the game and sticking with Flower Knight Girl. I don't mind the gatcha being more favored towards IAP, such as in FKG, but the events should be a means for F2P players to get high-tier units, provided they want to put in the time/effort to grind for them. If that's impossible to do without spending money (through purchasing AP pots, if the free ones don't quite amount to the number needed), I'll just move on. The game, as it is, is extremely laggy too (loading is SO SLOW!), and yes, I've tried all various browsers, from IE all the way to Firefox.

Not a bad game, and I do enjoy the character art/music, but depending on how kind it is to those that are F2P will determine whether I continue playing it or not.
 
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WTH? How can you conclude that with the calculation above?

Event duration: 14 days
Time required to hoard the required pots: 19 days

And for you, we shouldn't bother with the events except if we pay?

What do you think, we will have less than 5 days between events?

If the pattern is the same as most other games on nutaku/dmm then we will have a) no break between events (like FKG) or b) 1 week break (like nutaku Aigis) so yes you will miss the ability to complete every other event

Edit: i put 19 days there as a figure ignoring all other AP expenditure like clearing non-rep giving event missions. Also as Xion rightly pointed out, future events will likely give random (higher or lower) rep on the top tier mission. So if RNG hates you, you could get the lowest amount of rep for the same amount of AP several times in a row (the opposite is true though). But remember, the house always wins ;)

All in all, its likely that future events will need even more AP than what I've roughly calc'd, which is already an underestimate.
 
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We will see. I'm not sure the events will require this much AP. And anyway, if you are just playing for the girls and their scenes, and if the game is this expensive, you can target the most OP events units and just get the other as SSR, which is pretty easily.
 
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We will see. I'm not sure the events will require this much AP. And anyway, if you are just playing for the girls and their scenes, and if the game is this expensive, you can target the most OP events units and just get the other as SSR, which is pretty easily.

Yeah, perhaps nutaku will adjust things around. The easiest fix (if the devs/nutaku feel like it that is) is to lower the rep requirement to something more reasonable and adopt the FKG model. I'm not sure, but some people are saying future event top tier missions are so hard that even UR teams will have trouble. If thats so, then they'd need to at least halve (or more to allow for RNG on pot gift drops and rep gain) the current requirement to make it doable.

Otherwise like you said just get SSRs on events and be done with it. And then save like the dickens for units you really really want. Just one caveat, so long as future missions don't actually require a team full of top tier/event UR+ girls to complete, then forgoing clearing events is acceptable, otherwise...

Anyhow best way to get ppl to spend money is PvP
 
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Praise RNG for my roll from the 60,000 R Gacha ticket. :D

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Now if only my luck in Aigis was this good. Nothing's dropping for me there... :(

EDIT: Fixed the image size.
 
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I'm liking it so far, is What O. Island should have been IMO.
 
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Ok, I finished the event and I have my UR Jol Lilium.
Next, I tried the non-timed event for the other sorceress. Did 8 times, not even a single N.

Is it me, or the drop rate is shit? I will farm the feeling mission instead, I got 3 items everytime...
 
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Ok, I finished the event and I have my UR Jol Lilium.
Next, I tried the non-timed event for the other sorceress. Did 8 times, not even a single N.

Is it me, or the drop rate is shit? I will farm the feeling mission instead, I got 3 items everytime...

Probably drop rate, if the event is permanent, no sense giving a good drop rate or ppl will finish it fast.
 
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I managed to find the Japanese wiki



and from my limited ability to read moonrunes I discovered that (assuming Nutaku follows the DMM release schedule and order, which is so far the case):

The bad:

- There are no breaks in between events. (if it turns out that pot hoarding is a necessity, otherwise see "the good" below)

- Most events only run for 1 week (7 days) with some that run for 2 weeks (14 days)

- Although the halloween event is probably the hardest in terms of AP management (if no level up = no UR without $$$), some future events' top tier mission can barely be beaten with a full team of SSR+.

The so-so:

- So far there is only one other time that you get more than one event that runs at the same time in the future (Little Sister's wish & New Year's Trouble)

- Some events are quite RNG. e.g. in the next event, if you only want ONE perfect artemis bow, then an afternoon and a half will do ya. If you wanna equip your WHOLE team with fully capped and levelled artemis bows (-edited out-), then you better be prepared to get down on all fours and pray to RNGoddess, because no amount of AP management will help you if she hates your guts.

The good:

- There are no breaks in between events. (one of the long standing gripes about Aigis, this is quite welcome. Assuming that it is not a 'necessity' to resort to pot abuse to clear events, i.e. you can only do it if you P2W or need time to hoard pots, see "the bad" above)

- Future events are not all unit grinds, the next event should be a gathering quest for a UR-tier weapon "artemis' bow"(UR class weapon, +570 atk, 0.16 crit @ 80/80) which is pretty sweet since its like a 25% damage boost to most average SSRs (if you get 4, then its like that girl is a wrecking ball :D). This is a really welcome bit of news, since it means there is some variation in our diet :)

- According to the moonrunes, the JoL Lillium event is one of the harder ones, so its quite an achievement to get her (tbh the only reason most will get her is because we started with her event and get level up boosts).

- Most of the future events look doable if you really really put balls-the-wall AP efficiency, this is offset by the fact that if you don't have a full UR+ team or at least an SSR+ team that is fully equipped with decent gear by then you are likely to run into trouble being able to reliably beat the Top tier missions (which you need to run 100% of the time in order to make it)

The verdict

Its hard to tell when you will really need the extra AP on top of natural regen, so be really frugal in your Pot usage, because of the variation in quest types (a very good thing btw), because:

- If we run into an event where the top tier mission is stupid hard to beat, you may need buffer with losses and/or doing lower tier mission.

- If we run into RNG variable events (like the next one), depending on how many pieces of fully perfected equipment/Units you desire you'll need all the spare AP you can get and then offer your butt to RNGoddess.

Overall this game looks really promising if it holds to what I interpret through the Japanese wiki, however we won't actually know if the future events with RNG are doable on natural regen (or even + free Pots) until we actually try it though.

Extra aside:

Rawr - There is much oppai to be had in the future in this game. ;)
 
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- Some events are quite RNG. e.g. in the next event, if you only want ONE perfect artemis bow, then an afternoon and a half will do ya. If you wanna equip your WHOLE team with fully capped and levelled artemis bows (i think 4 per girl is impossibru unless you spend money), then you better be prepared to get down on all fours and pray to RNGoddess, because no amount of AP management will help you if she hates your guts.

The good:

- Future events are not all unit grinds, the next event should be a gathering quest for a UR-tier weapon "artemis' bow"(UR class weapon, +570 atk, 0.16 crit @ 80/80) which is pretty sweet since its like a 25% damage boost to most average SSRs (if you get 4, then its like that girl is a wrecking ball :D). This is a really welcome bit of news, since it means there is some variation in our diet :)
I can't equip the same weapon twice on one girl, are you sure it is worth it to farm more than 10 bows?
 
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I can't equip the same weapon twice on one girl, are you sure it is worth it to farm more than 10 bows?

Oh, I didn't know that, I kept thinking that I equipped 2 bows on one of my girls. Thanks for pointing that out.

In that case it's just a matter of farming 10 bows then. At least there is a ceiling on the farm, and not an insane farm all you can.

Still... that's not to say that's an easy feat by any measure. Based on the minimum AP calculation: you'll need 2460-4060 AP to get all the event missions plus the 300 Redanaito Ore needed to clear the event (G-map gives 3-5 ore per run at 40 AP)

Event = 7 days

RNGoddess hates your gutz : 4060AP = 8.45 days

RNGoddess says 'meh' : 3060AP = 6.37 days (most people will fall into this category)

RNGoddess loves you epeen : 2460AP = 5.12 days

Basically, if you just manage your AP right you will barely clear the event, netting yourself 1 x perfect artemis bow (yay!), 1 x plat gatcha ticket (Ooo nice), 3 x magic stones (meh~~~). Even if the goddess hates you, nothing 40 x 25AP pots can't solve.

I don't know what the RNG is on bow drops from the mission but basically unless you are a masochist or just plain rich, I doubt most people would come away with more than 3-4 perfect bows without resorting to pot abuse.
 
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I have to disagree about listing no breaks between events as a bad thing. IMO event breaks is the main factor that is killing Aigis. I'm enjoying BGR and hearing that events will be back-to-back makes me very happy.
 
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I have to disagree about listing no breaks between events as a bad thing. IMO event breaks is the main factor that is killing Aigis. I'm enjoying BGR and hearing that events will be back-to-back makes me very happy.
I concur.
Will be great if there's finally a "break free" game.
Least IMO.
 
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I concur.
Will be great if there's finally a "break free" game.
Least IMO.

Ah sorry, perhaps I misconstrued that point. I meant to say that it's 'bad' in that you have no time to accumulate pots in between events.

But inasfar as having an active stream of events, I also agree that its a really good thing, which would be even more awesome if my interpretation of the Japanese wiki is correct and the need for pots to clear most future events is not an absolute requirement.

I'll edit it so its clearer :)
 
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The next event is UP.
Halloween is still here, but double event in the same time :p
 
Re: [Nutaku] Brave Girl Ravens

The next event is UP.
Halloween is still here, but double event in the same time :p


Ahaha, for those of us who haven't finished the HW event yet, looks like it's time for pot abuse, there is no possible way to complete both events without pot burn :)
 
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