(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[soranokira]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I don't even pay attention to rep of posters, if their post is good to read. I read it. If its shit, I don't read it. And your posts has been pretty decent and even helped me several times while I've been playing aigis.

red rep is sometimes an indicator of radical opinion.

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So what?
Pfffttt.... kids.....

You think Red means bad and more Green = Saint?
That's the most stupid concept of thinking~

Go suck everyone ass and get Your green , LOL

@razisgarbage

The only garbage is the dev making her a Black Premium instead of an Event unit!

Turning my name into something its not, that's real mature. I'm sorry I offended you and your waifu but facts are facts. A Liana pulled from the gacha at 24 cost is far too expensive for a healer whose only perk is cleansing ailments, which are extremely rare making her viability all the more lessened.

As a matter of fact, taking skills into account a gold Iris with her skill up, even rank 1, actually has more raw healing potential than Liana does.

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Turning my name into something its not, that's real mature. I'm sorry I offended you and your waifu but facts are facts. A Liana pulled from the gacha at 24 cost is far too expensive for a healer whose only perk is cleansing ailments, which are extremely rare making her viability all the more lessened.

As a matter of fact, taking skills into account a gold Iris with her skill up, even rank 1, actually has more raw healing potential than Liana does.

Well it's Your fault saying garbage out of nowhere!

Do You think it's easy to get 3% Black Healer?
Even I do agree she might not great compare to the true Black gatcha

Doesn't mean You have the right to say garbage

And like I said , she is Max cost becoz that she originally an Event unit
Thus she have +5 UP than normal instead of +3

@SK

Sure kiddo~

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Doesn't mean You have the right to say garbage

And like I said , she is Max cost becoz that she originally an Event unit
Thus she have +5 UP than normal instead of +3

Yes she is max cost because she's an event unit, that's not what we're discussing. We're discussing the fact a 24 cost Liana is useless to most people. When a unit 2 or 3 rarities below you can do the same job you do at an exorbitant cost less, there's a problem. Why would you ever pick Liana to just heal when you can pick Iris or Alyssa at anywhere between 5-8 cost less? Can you wait those 8 seconds to get your Liana out when your tank is being beaten on by a boss?

 

[omega780]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I don't even pay attention to rep of posters, if their post is good to read. I read it. If its shit, I don't read it. And your posts has been pretty decent and even helped me several times while I've been playing aigis.

A person's reputation is just a measure on how likable and helpful they are on the forums. Green reputation people use more words which people like, while red reputation people use... less savory words. Both can be insightful and answer your problems though.

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Yes she is max cost because she's an event unit, that's not what we're discussing. We're discussing the fact a 24 cost Liana is useless to most people. When a unit 2 or 3 rarities below you can do the same job you do at an exorbitant cost less, there's a problem. Why would you ever pick Liana to just heal when you can pick Iris or Alyssa at anywhere between 5-8 cost less? Can you wait those 8 seconds to get your Liana out when your tank is being beaten on by a boss?

That's becos You don't have 2 Soldier
With 2 Soldier 24 cost is still manageable
You think Anya and Nadia cost aren't costly??

Yes I can wait for more 8 sec , no big deal~
If not why I always use her?

You just don't want to use it , it's just Your stupid reason

So You say 19 cost Liana is better? It's a damn same unit
Only a little costly
I still balme it on the dev they decide making her event unit
But then again , I will be pissed after 3% to get her and get nothing!!
Maybe if the B.Iris is the same AW Lv and 5/5
But I just don't see that chance~

Oh and to add that
I am surprise You compare Liana and Alyssa , LOL
I can understand if You compare Liana with Chydis or Camilla or even Iris , LOL

 

[alpha10th]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

My favorite healer is neither B.Iris nor Liana.

I actually prefer Saria out of all. It might be the only plat I would consider sniping.

Ofc, I wouldn't mind either of black healers if they somehow ends up in my deck.
Kinda value them about the same, though. Each has great uses in their own department.

 

[soranokira]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

My favorite healer is neither B.Iris nor Liana.

I actually prefer Saria out of all. It might be the only plat I would consider sniping.

Ofc, I wouldn't mind either of black healers if they somehow ends up in my deck.
Kinda value them about the same, though. Each has great uses in their own department.

it can't be helped that saria is best healer~

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

My favorite healer is neither B.Iris nor Liana.

I actually prefer Saria out of all. It might be the only plat I would consider sniping.

Ofc, I wouldn't mind either of black healers if they somehow ends up in my deck.
Kinda value them about the same, though. Each has great uses in their own department.

The situation itself just not right
Liana is for healing stun
While B.Iris is for tank and boost heal(?)

We just don't have a situation where there is so many swarm enemies that can stun
The perfect situation might be current PLOT Bishop 12 Sta map (DMM) where there is so much enemies with stun
When a unit stun while skill active , it can be pretty annoying >.>

And with... eh You know... slowpoke pace
Liana use is indeed so limited~

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

That's becos You don't have 2 Soldier
With 2 Soldier 24 cost is still manageable
You think Anya and Nadia cost aren't costly??

Yes I can wait for more 8 sec , no big deal~
If not why I always use her?

You just don't want to use it , it's just Your stupid reason

So You say 19 cost Liana is better? It's a damn same unit
Only a little costly
I still balme it on the dev they decide making her event unit
But then again , I will be pissed after 3% to get her and get nothing!!
Maybe if the B.Iris is the same AW Lv and 5/5
But I just don't see that chance~

Oh and to add that
I am surprise You compare Liana and Alyssa , LOL
I can understand if You compare Liana with Chydis or Camilla or even Iris , LOL

I do have 2 soldiers and I would much rather use the points on something not completely useless like an overpriced healer. I'd rather get out some damage on the field so the map can be cleared faster.

You can use your Liana, good luck using her on tight cost maps like Danger in the Oasis though.

Yes, I will compare her to Alissa or gold Iris.

Liana at max heals for 637, with her skill up she heals for... 637.
Iris at max heals for 498, with her skill up she heals for... 597.6.
Alissa at max heals for 378, with her skill up she heals for... 415.8.

And that's assuming skill level 1. With even skill level 2 gold Iris heals for 647.4. Look at that, a 2/5 skill gold out heals your precious black unit who costs at least 5-6 more points to summon.

If you seriously cannot understand how bad a max cost Liana is, you're beyond help.

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I do have 2 soldiers and I would much rather use the point on something not completely useless like an overpriced healer. I'd rather get out some damage on the field so the map can be cleared faster.

You can use your Liana, good luck using her on tight cost maps like Danger in the Oasis though.

Yes, I will compare her to Alissa or gold Iris.

Liana at max heals for 637, with her skill up she heals for... 637.
Iris at max heals for 498, with her skill up she heals for... 597.6.
Alissa at max heals for 378, with her skill up she heals for... 415.8.

And that's assuming skill level 1. With even skill level 2 gold Iris heals for 647.4. Look at that, a 2/5 skill gold out heals your precious black unit who costs at least 5-6 more points to summon.

If you seriously cannot understand how bad a max cost Liana is, you're beyond help.

Alissa at max heals for 378, with her skill up she heals for... 415.8.
Liana at max heals for 637, with her skill up she heals for... 637.

LOL OMG!!

I did said if You compare to G.Iris it would be fine
But Alyssa? hahaha LOL

I am surprise You talking about Danger in Oasis here
That map indeed needing a cheap unit
But do You used Alyssa for any G Event map?
OK , goodluck garbagegosu~

 

[alpha10th]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Honestly, I've witnessed Liana get used more for her range than stun recovery anyway.

Unfortunate fact is that range usage can be replaced by Fedora for the general public.

Me, I still value Liana for Black power (early skill, higher heal power) since higher cost is a less concern for my team.

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Well if someone have a problem deploying 24 UP
Good Luck when the Dragon Rider comes with 30+ UP
Or was it 35?

OMG!!! that is so expensive

Hahahaha~

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Yeah I use Alissa on plenty of G maps and guess what, she does her job just fine. She's currently my 3rd healer, sometimes 4th depending on if Marr has a use on the map.

Garbagegosu... right, real mature. Elementary school level insults really make you look like you know what you're talking about.

Well if someone have a problem deploying 24 UP
Good Luck when the Dragon Rider comes with 30+ UP
Or was it 35?

OMG!!! that is so expensive

Hahahaha~

You literally don't get it. It has nothing to do with expensive units being a problem. It has to do with the fact that there is no reason to deploy a 24 cost healer when a 19 cost healer does the same job just fine. It serves you absolutely no benefit. The fact you can't grasp this simple concept is really amazing actually.

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Yeah I use Alissa on plenty of G maps and guess what, she does her job just fine. She's currently my 3rd healer, sometimes 4th depending on if Marr has a use on the map.

Garbagegosu... right, real mature. Elementary school level insults really make you look like you know what you're talking about.

Hahaha , Thanks Garbagegosu~

Maybe You should start investing for 3'rd soldier when expensive unit coming
(God knows when~)

 

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Hahaha , Thanks Garbagegosu~

Maybe You should start investing for 3'rd soldier when expensive unit coming
(God knows when~)

id expect later this year

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

id expect later this year

Amen.....

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Hmm , I am planning to buy that Cynthia
Or maybe Black Knight first??

Fairy Cynthia for more +5 UP and Louise for more +2 UP also Deine (still dun have) for more +2 UP
My all unit will be even moar expensive XD
Hahahaha >.<

 

[Orion]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Have G event maps gone up in difficulty DMM side? Otherwise there's videos that have shown Silver teams (some with a few Golds thrown in) as viable in doing them. Though, in my case because some enemies were buffed I had to tweak a few strats I usually just used Gold Iris and Alissa, sometimes Dorca or Fedora, and things worked out.

 

[soranokira]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Have G event maps gone up in difficulty DMM side? Otherwise there's videos that have shown Silver teams (some with a few Golds thrown in) as viable in doing them. Though, in my case because some enemies were buffed I had to tweak a few strats I usually just used Gold Iris and Alissa, sometimes Dorca or Fedora, and things worked out.

not to my understanding. DMM side should be easier in fact, due to the many balance patches applied (in particular, artemis with x1.3 anti-air multiplier and cheaper witches and mages)

also, there are several silvers we're missing, such as silver princess Rosette who is usually a vital component in the tougher silver-only strats (since she boosts silver unit stats)

 

[Orion]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

not to my understanding. DMM side should be easier in fact, due to the many balance patches applied (in particular, artemis with x1.3 anti-air multiplier and cheaper witches and mages)

also, there are several silvers we're missing, such as silver princess Rosette who is usually a vital component in the tougher silver-only strats (since she boosts silver unit stats)

Alright thanks, I was curious since I remember awhile ago someone said current DMM G maps were still doable with silvers. Not to mention that silvers now can go up to 55 and have special abilities.

And, yeah we're still missing a bunch of balance changes which would be so helpful, so hopefully now that Nutaku's taking over we can get them, probably real slowly, but at least we may get them....that artemis change is no joke since I showed a video awhile back where my AW'd Spica that had slightly higher stats than a DMM one, but because of the change their Spica could one shot the X Gazers while mine couldn't until level 70.

Oh, that's neat. I heard about a Silver Princess, but I didn't know that she was pretty much the silver version of Sherry. I should randomly browse the wiki more.