(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[razisgosu]

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

maybe try hating lolis. then you'll pull all of em. inari, elyse, hina, uru. i have em all. aigis fucking gives them to me and i dont want em.

give me god damn agnes, or deine or dahlia. do i get THEM? of course not

Doesn't want one of the most broken units in the game. Okay then. Moving on.

 

[Gitami]

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Whoa awesome. I'm probably better off waiting then.. when did Aigis implement the Gacha upgrade in DMM?

I think it was around White Emperor or the week after, so 7 months ago. Which is 2.5-3 years from now unless Nutaku speeds up.

 

[Ericridge]

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While we're complaining about blacks.

I believe it is time for Liana to be removed from shrine gacha and everyone who has her gets a black ticket in return for the unjust suffering. And then Liana's event gets implemented.

Let it be done now I say.

 

[Xion]

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Beep

That's not how the gacha works.

First: Black rarity units have 3% chance regardless of how many time you roll, when a unit is spotlight it doesn't mean you'll get it while rolling that rarity, it means that said unit has higher chances of showing up while rolling, it doesn't mean that you can't get other units of said rarity.

Second: He is not saying "Oh shit i got B.Iris while rolling for Rion what are the odds" he is just complain that he got a unit that he doesn't like while saying that it would have been better to get a lower rank or even a ower rarity.

Third: If he had said that he used a lot of money and that he feel "rip off" that would be a different case but i bet he got her with a yolo roll. So yeah he should be getting neg-rep for pulling that shit.

Too slow. Didn't you guys hear the news?

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B.Iris is dead.

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In case anyone takes this 100% seriously, this is sort of a meme whenever an OP black appears.
I can't even count how many times Nanaly died.
This one happened due to a new Black PW.

Dude.... This is not dmm.... For her to get here there a good 3 years gap at the very least, besides she doesn't kill B.Iris, she is just a melee alternative for her.

 

[alpha10th]

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Dude.... This is not dmm.... For her to get here there a good 3 years gap at the very least, besides she doesn't kill B.Iris, she is just a melee alternative for her.

I see Mr. Pure Evil stiill has trouble reading.

It's a meme. By JP Princes.
It was even retweeted by the very illustrator that brought B.Iris to life.
Deal with it.

Besides, if we are talking about Nutaku tiers, we are not yet in the era where B.Iris is considered as the top of the top. We are still at a point where you can just kill anything and everything rather than bother with tanking or healing.

There was a discussion in this thread between us and DMM Veterans about B.Iris v Aisha.
Go read it. (Though by now I know you don't like reading)

 

[xaxs]

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That's not how the gacha works.

First: Black rarity units have 3% chance regardless of how many time you roll, when a unit is spotlight it doesn't mean you'll get it while rolling that rarity, it means that said unit has higher chances of showing up while rolling, it doesn't mean that you can't get other units of said rarity.

Second: He is not saying "Oh shit i got B.Iris while rolling for Rion what are the odds" he is just complain that he got a unit that he doesn't like while saying that it would have been better to get a lower rank or even a ower rarity.

Third: If he had said that he used a lot of money and that he feel "rip off" that would be a different case but i bet he got her with a yolo roll. So yeah he should be getting neg-rep for pulling that shit.
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Ad first: I didn't write anything about how gacha works. I know very well how it works. I wrote about the feeling of the one receiving it. Because it is only 3% chance so when this chance pops up and one get black from gacha, but it is totally not the one that was wanted it just feels like missing a chance for wanted unit.

Ad second: Writing "Oh shit i got B.Iris while rolling for Rion what are the odds" isn't complaining at all and I was writing that there is the right to complain even if you say anyone should just be glad for getting black. No. If I would get black that I dont need (and even more - don't like that unit) I would pretty much prefer getting plat unit that I want to have for a long time. Is it something wrong?

Ad third: (I guess yolo means something like one random roll). And that's what I wrote earlier here and in my previous post. Because it was such a lucky roll to get that black unit, there is a bit of disappointment because of the feeling like it was a missed chance. Ok that black can be broken... so what? Especially if one has strong enough teamt to go through almost all maps blindly. I understand if one is making huge fuss over it in many posts. But why would you criticize someone for just expressing his disappointment through a bit of complain? What next? Criticizing someone for complaining because he couldn't 3* map doing it blindly or not, because there are vids with 3* it with silver units?

 

[Xion]

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Beep1

I'm just stating my opinion, that doesn't make me evil. I really not gonna argue about the benefits of a defensive unit and a support unit. You know, different roles and all.

PS: Since i don't have B.Iris or the BWP i can't comment on that either my only opinion is that one doesn't minimize the role of the other and i can't read japanese so the meme flew over my head, does this makes me guilty of anything??

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Beep2

Incredible, you read what i said, ignore it completely and create a whole new response base in what you believe i wrote... Amazing. (i feel like alpha targert the wrong man :/)

One last time RNG means RNG........ How can you expect something that is random to happen exactly like you want with a sample of 1-5?

I get it he complains about being a loli, great this alll talk has been pointless. (just like the expectation of someone that doesn't get how lottery works.)

 

[Angelic Berserker]

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I believe it is time for Liana to be removed from shrine gacha and everyone who has her gets a black ticket in return for the unjust suffering. And then Liana's event gets implemented.

Let it be done now I say.

I can understand removing her from gacha if and when her event comes around but giving everyone who already pulled her from gacha a free black ticket makes no sense at all.

If you buy a ticket to see an exclusive sneak preview of a movie, should you get a ticket to see a different movie when said movie comes out?

Speaking of disappointing black pulls, Ive pulled a total of 10 black units. 9 of which were disappointing because they weren't Liana. All my blacks except Mikoto are still unused at level 1 cus I just don't give a fuck about them. Where is Liana's event anyway?

 

[alpha10th]

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I'm just stating my opinion, that doesn't make me evil. I really not gonna argue about the benefits of a defensive unit and a support unit. You know, different roles and all.

PS: Since i don't have B.Iris or the BWP i can't comment on that either my only opinion is that one doesn't minimize the role of the other and i can't read japanese so the meme flew over my head, does this makes me guilty of anything??

No, I won't sue you.
But to respond with an opinion like that against a joke, it's being silly.
Especially when I wrote the second part that starts with "In case anyone takes this seriously,"
And I like making fun of silly things.

Also, the "Pure Evil" comment was not to demonize you for being silly, either.
I'm simply using this post
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=976864&postcount=27594
where you made a fool of yourself.
And yes, I like making fun of foolish stuff as well.

Maybe I should be more obvious....but that's no fun for me.

 

[Xion]

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Lets clear the agenda: Thanks for allowing this to be resolve out of the court house, i really can't affort a lawer at this point. (not a good one at least).

I wanted to be serious about that because she has no nipples, if you look closely at her regular and aw art you'll realize this, how can an unit so full of flaws beat B.Iris in anything??? (again i'm being deadly serious)

I didn't make a fool of myself, i was right Nagi and the Nanaly twins leave you with more open slots to fill with other blacks (with your luck maybe Kayou or one of the black princesses [non-Olive] will be filling those spots) Besides, that doesn't make "Pure Evil" maybe a nitpicking douche but not actually evil, you want evil?? I'll give you

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(Yeah, that's the blood of every Prince that said she was low tier just because she hasn't been buff in ages)

 

[khawk016]

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I can understand removing her from gacha if and when her event comes around but giving everyone who already pulled her from gacha a free black ticket makes no sense at all.

If you buy a ticket to see an exclusive sneak preview of a movie, should you get a ticket to see a different movie when said movie comes out?

Speaking of disappointing black pulls, Ive pulled a total of 10 black units. 9 of which were disappointing because they weren't Liana. All my blacks except Mikoto are still unused at level 1 cus I just don't give a fuck about them. Where is Liana's event anyway?

this movie comparison doesnt really work here and giving all who have a liana a black ticket isnt crazy considering she should never have been in the gatcha and is far underpowered compared to what she replaced and most other blacks you could have gotten instead
at the very least take her out so no more get affected

also cant wait for the loli hater to pull aisha or kikyou

 

[Selius]

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also cant wait for the loli hater to pull aisha or kikyou

.l.. ..l.

 

[Angelic Berserker]

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this movie comparison doesnt really work here

if you spin a slot machine and win a red car, but then everyone is handed that same exact red car for free a week later, do you deserve to have a different color car?

the answer is no.

those who pulled liana got to have her "now". everyone else has to wait to get her later.

 

[khawk016]

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if you spin a slot machine and win a red car, but then everyone is handed that same exact red car for free a week later, do you deserve to have a different color car?

the answer is no.

those who pulled liana got to have her "now". everyone else has to wait to get her later.

again makes no sense who cares what everyone else got that isnt the issue with liana the issue is that she should have never been in the thing in the first place its like winning that red car and getting a beaten up junker at best you are getting basically swindled if you pull liana now

 

[Xion]

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this movie comparison doesnt really work here and giving all who have a liana a black ticket isnt crazy considering she should never have been in the gatcha and is far underpowered compared to what she replaced and most other blacks you could have gotten instead
at the very least take her out so no more get affected

also cant wait for the loli hater to pull aisha or kikyou

I think the problem is they are to lazy to single out those who got Liana, so even while the solutions do exist they don't want to implement them. I would love to have Liana but if her event never comes is not like i'l die or something. In this particular case anyone deserve to complain, since getting her in gacha is actually robbing you of a chance to get a real premium black.

You're giving him too much, since he likes plats so much imagine what would happen if her ever lands Nadia, Belzetta, Maple or Shirley xD
I'll call it here and now and say Stroke.

 

[The Overgoat]

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if you spin a slot machine and win a red car, but then everyone is handed that same exact red car for free a week later, do you deserve to have a different color car?

the answer is no.

those who pulled liana got to have her "now". everyone else has to wait to get her later.

Still bullshit analogy. Let's try this: you spin a a slot machine with the promise that you can win high tier sport cars and end up winning, let's say, a Suzuki Ignis and then you are told that you've just won one of the grand prizes. That's about the analogy we are talking here. Putting what you find aesthetically pleasing aside, in terms of usefulness and utility B. Iris is one of the most useful black units even in terms of DMM Aegis. I bought her from the black ticket when I started (after some hesitation between Aisha and her) and she made me pull through countless times even though she's still unawakened.

Liana cannot even be a compared to her in terms of usefulness. Here's the thing though: she shouldn't be. Liana is a good unit as far as event units go. But she is on par with the worst premium blacks at best and the better ones... well, they are worlds apart. As they should be quite frankly.

 

[alpha10th]

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I didn't make a fool of myself, i was right Nagi and the Nanaly twins leave you with more open slots to fill with other blacks

Yes you did. You made a fool of yourself twice now. By being wrong and by not reading the post all the way.

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Actually I can already do that, but I'm not going to use any dupes except for Nanaly.
She's special b/c she's the founding member of my kingdom.

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Do you really think I don't know my own needs and wishes?
You have a terrible habit of being stubborn when you are wrong and being picked on it. Better work on that.

 

[Xion]

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Well this is the internet so that kind of stuff just happens, is not like is the end of the world.

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On a more interesting topic, anyone nows if blocking works better for afk the 90/12 map?? I've been using Raven murderus skill to kill everything but is annoying having to check on her an Sandra in every run :/

 

[alpha10th]

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Yes I was wrong. You are right. I did not read. But I can't admit any of these facts for the life of me because I'm a generic internet guy that you all come to expect.

No problem. Just watch out next time.

I actually enjoy picking on pickable picks, so I don't really mind.

 

[Angelic Berserker]

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again makes no sense

it actually makes perfect sense.

Still bullshit analogy. Let's try this: you spin a a slot machine with the promise that you can win high tier sport cars and end up winning, let's say, a Suzuki Ignis

Thats literally the same exact analogy I made except you switched the words "red car" with "Suzuki Ignis".

if you spin a slot machine and win a Suzuki Ignis, but then everyone is handed that same exact Suzuki Ignis for free a week later, do you deserve to have a different type of car?

And the answer is still a resounding no!

That's about the analogy we are talking here. Putting what you find aesthetically pleasing aside, in terms of usefulness and utility B. Iris is one of the most useful black units even in terms of DMM Aegis.
Liana cannot even be a compared to her in terms of usefulness. Here's the thing though: she shouldn't be. Liana is a good unit as far as event units go. But she is on par with the worst premium blacks at best and the better ones... well, they are worlds apart. As they should be quite frankly.

So what your saying is, if you rolled a unit that has shitty stats you should be entitled to a different unit that has good stats? what the flying fuck?