(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Skolldir]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Sigh. Why are people tossing around "entitled" so willy nilly? All I've done is complain about the difficulty. Not once have I ever been "I demand this" or "Give me that". I may have said "I'd be nice if it was like this" or something one or two times, but that's wishful thinking, not entitlement. I'm getting a lot of flak for saying a difficult game is difficult. Again, I have just as much right to complain about something I feel is worth complaining about as you guys have defending it.

As for videos, unfortunately, I've watched a lot and they never help. Even if I do exactly as the videos show, it never turns out the same. The real problem with those videos are that most of the units they use are max level, promoted. It'll take me months to match that. I have several promoted units, but none are max level after the fact because it takes forever. Lots of money and resources which run out quickly. Even units that are near the same level as in the videos always die in one or two hits, when they withstand a lot more punishment in the videos. It's frustrating.

Not even counting event stages or dailies which are way too hard, I've been stuck on the Castle Retake for what feels like ages. Heck, many of the missions before this seem impossible to even three-star even with promoted units.

 

[khawk016]

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I agree, Anna hasn't been skipped yet per say. She was a 1 year anniversary event for Japan, but they had X amount of events in that 1 year. Assuming we follow the same schedule its going to take us that much longer to get to the point in the timeline for Anna's event.

That does bring up the question though, seeing as Anna's event was an anniversary event, will we get it at all or will it be skipped in favor of saving it for a special time. Given that English Aigis got absolutely nothing for its anniversary, I'm very skeptical that we get any special events.

we may have not earned the events like gold rushs since from what ive seen there saved for milestones most of the gold rushs on dmm side has been for x amount of users joined or holidays

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if you dont have the units at the level in said video or you cced at 30 or there not max aff they will most likely die my point is theres always variables involved like for instance this black gob archer in a map targeted my healer where as he didnt in a video so i had to kill him sooner and everything was fine plan for stupid shit to happen

 

[razisgosu]

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Sigh. Why are people tossing around "entitled" so willy nilly? All I've done is complain about the difficulty. Not once have I ever been "I demand this" or "Give me that". I may have said "I'd be nice if it was like this" or something one or two times, but that's wishful thinking, not entitlement. I'm getting a lot of flak for saying a difficult game is difficult. Again, I have just as much right to complain about something I feel is worth complaining about as you guys have defending it.

As for videos, unfortunately, I've watched a lot and they never help. Even if I do exactly as the videos show, it never turns out the same. The real problem with those videos are that most of the units they use are max level, promoted. It'll take me months to match that. I have several promoted units, but none are max level after the fact because it takes forever. Lots of money and resources which run out quickly. Even units that are near the same level as in the videos always die in one or two hits, when they withstand a lot more punishment in the videos. It's frustrating.

Not even counting event stages or dailies which are way too hard, I've been stuck on the Castle Retake for what feels like ages. Heck, many of the missions before this seem impossible to even three-star even with promoted units.

That's literally the game. Spend your charisma and stamina effectively to build your team. The first thing you need to do is get a core team. A non-CCed team should be enough to get you to 3 star nearly every mission if not all of them up to Castle Retake. If I recall correctly Castle Retake is pretty much the first mission where CCed units are a necessity. You're either not placing units properly, or not placing the right units at the right time.

You need gold to level units, use the Monday daily for that. Even a low level team should be able to do the second rank of it. You need to get your units affection up, farm the Wednesday daily. That one is very easy. You can probably do the max rank of it with non-CCed units, maybe 1-2 CCed units.

Focus on Katie, Bashira, Cloris, Leanne, and Iris, those should all be readily available to you.

If you're having specific problems on maps, post your team and I'm sure people would be more than happy to help you get back on track.

 

[Lucifina]

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I've been stuck on the Castle Retake for what feels like ages. Heck, many of the missions before this seem impossible to even three-star even with promoted units.

watch?v=rNNxaPT--9k&nohtml5=False
Get unstuck

 

[Orion]

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Decided to recheck the first Gold Rush, and apparently it ran from 12/27/2013 - 01/06/2014. So, I guess, technically it was sort of on schedule, since the first Gold Rush was done during New Years. Somewhat interesting, our Gold Rush ran 4 days longer compared to DMM's. Though, Gold Rush 2 was made for breaking 200,000 members, and ran around the end of March. Which, we've already passed, so who knows when that's happening. I wouldn't be surprised if, Gold Rush became a New Years thing for Nutaku.

 

[Daverost]

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Our Gold Rush 1 was a shitty replacement for the holiday event we didn't get. No more and no less.

They're not actually trying to match the JP schedule with them.

Odette's skill - situational

Her skill is situationally useful, but she's still the 3rd strongest mage in the game behind Sasha and the black unit. And most people are going to have her at a lower cost than either of those two.

I started after Belinda so I cant comment

Belinda's one of the better units in the game. Certainly among the better witches. Her AW passive gives +7% attack to witches.

 

[rjrmonteiro]

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Skolldir, what you're feeling it's pretty much the same for most of us.
Our advantage is that since we started on the game's infancy stage we had more time to prepare and build our teams on event downtimes, so we didn't have to chose between event or farm.

I can't even tell you how many weeks I spent to get my team ready for Castle Retake. Then I moved onto Return to Ruins for a few more weeks of farming, followed by a mix of Remnant Vanquish 3 and Dragon Hunting farm.

All this just so I could safely complete Immortal Beast, which I managed a little bit before of karma event, if memory serves right.
Yet to 3* IB I had to farm some more and it took me at least another month, with another 1-2 months to manage to get IB done with 2 healers. And then I just farmed the hell out of it to get my core team maxed and then move onto secondary units.

Also don't forget that we had no auto-complete back then which was both good and bad.
Good because you "trained" your timing (e.g. retreat units) and unit placement (hell, I can still remember at which second my units entered on IB), but the time it took to use a whole day worth of char/stam was enormous.


My advice is that you focus on your team building, even if you have to forego 1 or 2 events (only if you can't fight for bare minimum).
Nurture you core units, even if they're silver, as they'll accompany you for most of the game. After 50CC quickly bring them to lvl30 and then start with another unit, only when your core team is 50CC30 go for lvl40+.
Also, don't solely rely on the guides. They help you setting a base strategy and plan ahead but you should adapt them to fit your team.

And any further help just ask, people around here can give you hints/tips on how to proceed. Just be prepared for some sacrifices, this isn't a very hard game but it takes a while before you're ready for most content.

 

[Orion]

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Our Gold Rush 1 was a shitty replacement for the holiday event we didn't get. No more and no less.

They're not actually trying to match the JP schedule with them.

Current DMM schedule, no, but while we've been off schedule since the beginning, they have, mostly, matched the order of the events dropping.

If by holiday event you meant this one:

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Well, that was on DMM's current schedule. And, it's kind of obvious at this point until Nutaku is caught up with, almost, all past events we're never going to be synchronized with DMM's schedule.

 

[khawk016]

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theres only 2 xmas event unit the loli witch (shes fuckin adorable but worse then most witchs for me atleast) and the newest one the older ones were gold rushs

 

[Daverost]

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theres only 2 xmas event unit the loli witch (shes fuckin adorable but worse then most witchs for me atleast) and the newest one the older ones were gold rushs

Yes and no. The "Christmas" loli witch was actually part of a New Year's event (年末年始お年玉イベントゴールドラッシュ！, 2014/12/25-2015/01/05) that started after Christmas.

The event for that year that led up to Christmas (2014/12/18-2014/12/25) and occupied the same time frame as the Christmas bow rider's event last year (2015/12/17-2015/12/24) was for a winter-themed witch.

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And we've clearly missed the time frame for that one. It would be either off-season or a year delayed at best now.

They replaced her with a gold rush.

 

[Eab1990]

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Castle Retake is supposed to be a gated map. I myself didn't three-star it until level 100 (I probably could've done it earlier, but it didn't hurt to be prepared).

Point is, that was a month of preparation. We all had to do it, that's how the game flow is. And it annoys the veterans when newbies complain and expect to be able to clear events that are much harder than the story maps.

 

[Orion]

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And we've clearly missed the time frame for that one. It would be either off-season or a year delayed at best now.

They replaced her with a gold rush.

We may get her if, Nutaku keeps going by the drop list.

Eliza's event doesn't happen until after 7 events later from now, technically 6, but we skipped Rita for whatever reason, and we may get her after Shuka's. Like, how Azami was after Beatrice in the list, but in Nutaku's case it was the opposite.

 

[khawk016]

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Yes and no. The "Christmas" loli witch was actually part of a New Year's event (年末年始お年玉イベントゴールドラッシュ！, 2014/12/25-2015/01/05) that started after Christmas.

The event for that year that led up to Christmas (2014/12/18-2014/12/25) and occupied the same time frame as the Christmas bow rider's event last year (2015/12/17-2015/12/24) was for a winter-themed witch.

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And we've clearly missed the time frame for that one. It would be either off-season or a year delayed at best now.

They replaced her with a gold rush.

eliza comes after Memento a few weeks after anna i believe all these events that are "skipped" cause its x holiday are just not in the schedule for x time so they will go along the same schedule and release them whenever they happen to drop expecting a xmas n july thing

 

[Orion]

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Made a side by side comparison of the release schedules, without the events that were skipped.

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Somewhat interesting to note that, DMM's Gold Rush 3 dropped after Rika. While, in Nutaku's case it was the wrong Gold Rush, but a Gold Rush did drop after Rika. So, it was still technically within the schedule.

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[anon423]

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Skolldir, what you're feeling it's pretty much the same for most of us.

No, now that I've got AW and got everyone I needed (except Rowana, so I'm still paralysis-vulnerable; nutaku, hurry up with special unit AW pls) to AW50-70, its back to "feels too easy" and going to be so for quite a while from now on.
In stuff we could get in near future, only Memento event poses some challenge. Without Chydis, Yuno and Pipin final Lich map will require some creativity for me even with my AW team.

Nutaku gives too much time to raise your team with breaks, so difficulty curve is lagging far behind growth curve and gape is now keeps widening since AW.

 

[omega780]

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Our Gold Rush 1 was a shitty replacement for the holiday event we didn't get. No more and no less.

They're not actually trying to match the JP schedule with them.

Her skill is situationally useful, but she's still the 3rd strongest mage in the game behind Sasha and the black unit. And most people are going to have her at a lower cost than either of those two.

Belinda's one of the better units in the game. Certainly among the better witches. Her AW passive gives +7% attack to witches.

Oops, didn't want to make odette sound like a bad unit. Her attack is still nice even if you don't use her skill. fixed my post. As for Belinda, i figured she was good, but since i don't have her i can't say for certain. the AW passive is good though.

 

[Karsuman]

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Her skill is situationally useful, but she's still the 3rd strongest mage in the game behind Sasha and the black unit. And most people are going to have her at a lower cost than either of those two.

Mentioned this before, but for the sake of people that have Garania, I'll do it again anyway: Garania edges out Odette's attack due to mage attack +7%. Odette will only have more if you are using both at the same time, which will become less and less likely as time moves on(bishops will continue to outdate mages, more aoe options, etc.). Won't speak too much on Mole since Nutaku doesn't and may not ever have her, but having Attack Up IV makes her largely more effective than any other plat mage in spite of her lower base attack.

Unless you are going to use Odette's skill to counter magic damage, Garania will almost always be better since she has a better skill in most scenarios.

(this is not an argument against Odette's usefulness, just a disclaimer and notice for people that do have Garania so that they don't feel like they rolled a 'trash' unit that is worse than an event unit, and thus never give her a chance.)

 

[Karsuman]

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thing is till we get two of saint event our bishop pool is quite sparse cause the other 2 event bishops are quite far off so mages like odette are our only choice for aoe mage types and even if we get two of saint soon thats just noel who id swap in and roll with both odette and noel i dont see odette going anywhere in eng teams for a while she'll be a staple to those who dont have prem mages

I know. Now read the rest of my post.

(this is not an argument against Odette's usefulness, just a disclaimer and notice for people that do have Garania so that they don't feel like they rolled a 'trash' unit that is worse than an event unit, and thus never give her a chance.)

 

[Lafate]

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Our Gold Rush 1 was a shitty replacement for the holiday event we didn't get. No more and no less.

Just saying DMM never got a holiday event the first year around... At least to my knowledge... so why in the world should we get one? At the very most the christmas witch was put into the TP at the point, but I'm not sure of her release date.

 

[soranokira]

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As for videos, unfortunately, I've watched a lot and they never help. Even if I do exactly as the videos show, it never turns out the same. The real problem with those videos are that most of the units they use are max level, promoted. It'll take me months to match that. I have several promoted units, but none are max level after the fact because it takes forever. Lots of money and resources which run out quickly. Even units that are near the same level as in the videos always die in one or two hits, when they withstand a lot more punishment in the videos. It's frustrating.

Not even counting event stages or dailies which are way too hard, I've been stuck on the Castle Retake for what feels like ages. Heck, many of the missions before this seem impossible to even three-star even with promoted units.

Firstly, they're meant to be used as reference. if you fail from it, pay attention to where you failed and adjust accordingly.
secondly, etheternal videos as well as atarime's are pretty good, because both of them used full cost units so I found it easier to judge. (if you follow silver teams w/o noticing their units are mincosted I'd say that's your own fault for not paying attention)
3rdly: etheternal's castle retake video comments:

Important Notes: This video is out of date without the Black armor so here is a way to handle it - link removed Or if you want a complete video try

Lastly, I'd say the problem here is that most newbies come in thinking maps would be easy and just a bit more effort will be needed for them to clear the next level of map, especially since the starting story maps were so easy. Well unfortunately, Aigis is a grinding game. it takes some time of effort and effective use of resources to actually catch, and there are plenty of difficulty spikes. As a general guideline, you need 1 month of grinding in Aigis to setup a core team and 3 months to really get anywhere to something like perfect unit in a star rush. (excluding whales.)

edit: and I'd say both the good and bad part is that this game really makes me think how to clear maps even with guides. especially in DMM side where I'm playing 3 accounts. all 3 have slightly different units to work with, so I have to try a couple of times and adjust accordingly before I can clear certain maps. Most of the time it's kind of mindless grinding, then it's brain overload from thinking how to get past a certain map. then when you level your team to the point where you can mindless grind everything...yay! achievement unlocked.