(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Eab1990]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Er, not once did I ever say I wanted to dumb down the game for everyone else. I complained that it was ridiculously difficult, sure, but that doesn't mean I want to ruin it for everyone. It'd be great if there were an option to lower the difficulty, though.

As for spending real money, I had no idea you could even do that. I have no money, no job, and no way to make online transactions so that'll never be an option for me either way. Now that I do know that, I understand why it's so difficult. Sigh. I thought this was just a free tower defense type game, not a cash grab type game where they make it difficult for the purpose of getting less skilled people to spend money in order to advance.

I probably jumped the gun because there's a dozen of your types every day and their entitlement attitude starts to meld together after a while. It triggers us veterans (or possibly just me, I guess) when our game is already inferior to the main server and newbies want to continue to make it worse.

Regardless, there ARE guides out there that use freemium teams to help you get as far as possible in each event. But they're not meant for complete newbies either. Until then, you can only hope to get the bare minimum each event (the first map of every event is ALWAYS a pushover).

But if it's rare units from the shrine you want, you're basically out of luck. The DMM server is more generous and gives out SCs to its players on a fairly regular basis. We don't have that luxury. We get a fairly limited amount of free SC, and if you spend it all on the shrine (which is, again, highly discouraged) and don't get anything you like, you're out of luck for a while. But that's how gacha works. Even paying players aren't guaranteed to find what they want. The past two weeks is enough of an indicator of that. EVERYONE wants Aisha. Only extremely lucky people or people who dropped hundreds can hope to find her.

 

[The Overgoat]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Er, not once did I ever say I wanted to dumb down the game for everyone else. I complained that it was ridiculously difficult, sure, but that doesn't mean I want to ruin it for everyone. It'd be great if there were an option to lower the difficulty, though.

As for spending real money, I had no idea you could even do that. I have no money, no job, and no way to make online transactions so that'll never be an option for me either way. Now that I do know that, I understand why it's so difficult. Sigh. I thought this was just a free tower defense type game, not a cash grab type game where they make it difficult for the purpose of getting less skilled people to spend money in order to advance.

Oh, there is an option for that. that's what the goddess blessing are for.

Dude, there is no such a thing as a free lunch. An online game like this has to keep the servers running, has to pay for artist to do the new character art, a dev team to code and maintain everything and the online host to keep the game visible. Nutaku doesn't run 3rd party ads. So, what did you think? That they'd just keep pushing everything out for free and pay all the inherent costs themselves? It's business like any other. If you don't get that, then frankly I'm starting to suspect that you're not actually old enough to play this anyhow.

As for being P2W: lol, no. A free player can get all the events maxed after an initial 1-2 month long warm up period. In fact, this MWA is probably one of the most free-player friendly F2P game I've ever seen.

 

[Leonhardt]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Snip

Well... if you still want to continue playing this game, let's give you some pointers.

Firstly, as others have said, for new players, working on your team is much more important than events. While events aren't balanced only for the strongest of the players, at our current point in the game, they do require a well developed team. It's possible to get by with mostly developed, lower quality, i.e. Silver, units and a fair amount of skill/strategy, but in the event of a skill deficit, using stronger units can help make up the difference. So, leveling your team would be a priority, as well as obtaining Katie and Cloris if you haven't already done so. Katie, a healer, and an archer would be fair units to prioritize for class evolution (CC is the parlance normally used here however).

Now, as for actually completing maps, there are a number of kind people who create guides to help others. For example,

You must be registered to see the links

,

You must be registered to see the links

, and

You must be registered to see the links

make videos using lower powered common units that could be helpful to newbies and veterans alike. So, you can view those videos and use them as guides to help developing your team for the moment as well as clearing the maps more easily until you're better able to stand on your own two feet. Also on that topic, getting a team ready to farm the Monday Golden Armor daily would be a wise move due to the gold it can bring in as well as the occasional Platinum experience armor. Thursday would be another daily to look towards farming since the Demon Crystals (DC) are increasingly important, both for purchasing higher power units, such as Spica, from the Trading Post to shore up your roster, but also for the Awakening Fairies to further increase the power of your party.

Finally, as for your Sacred Crystals (SC for short), while you're free to do with them as you wish, as a free player, rolling for units is a terrible use due to how poor the rates are and the relative scarcity of said crystals. Expanding your barracks, using the experience and gold buffs for power leveling, Stamina and Charisma refills, and otherwise saving them for SC intensive collection events, perfecting farm units you like, and utilizing the Goddess' Buffs to help bridge the gap when your team isn't up to snuff would be far better uses than gambling in the Premium Summon gacha.

All in all, I hope this helps.

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

When I started playing on DMM it took me about 1-2 months to be able to get decent event units, maybe less. I got just the minimum for the flying monkey event unit probably less than a month into playing.

The game gives you everything you need to get started. All the silvers, a gold healer, and a platinum archer. You also get a variety of every type of silver including tanks, healers, archers, mages, witches, etc. Getting those units leveled and CCed is exactly what you need to start clearing maps. You also get a ton of SC from 3 starring all the story missions, Cloris's challenge missions, and Katie's tutorial missions.

You shouldn't have any blocking story missions until Castle Retake, even me with my experience got blocked on that one for a little while when I started my DMM account. There are a bunch of videos of users 3 starring missions, challenges, events, etc with nothing but silver units.

 

[akoss]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

As a new player, rerolling until you get a black is a great option to give yourself an early boost. It will probably take a long time to get a black through RNG or trading post, but restarting accounts with 10 minute emails takes less than 10 minutes per roll.

Also if nobody spent money, we wouldn't have events in the first place.

 

[soranokira]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Er, not once did I ever say I wanted to dumb down the game for everyone else. I complained that it was ridiculously difficult, sure, but that doesn't mean I want to ruin it for everyone. It'd be great if there were an option to lower the difficulty, though.

As for spending real money, I had no idea you could even do that. I have no money, no job, and no way to make online transactions so that'll never be an option for me either way. Now that I do know that, I understand why it's so difficult. Sigh. I thought this was just a free tower defense type game, not a cash grab type game where they make it difficult for the purpose of getting less skilled people to spend money in order to advance.

well, newbies aren't actually expected to do well in star rush or any events until a couple of months into the game with a fairly efficient playstyle. Lafate's guide to SC use as a free player would be a good read so you don't gamble away all your important SCs, and in my signature I made a guide for leveling team for those who want to spend less time thinking which units they want to level.

I'm a 100% free player myself, and so far I've managed to do decently well in both nutaku aigis and DMM aigis after 1 month+ into the game. admittedly the time I joined was a factor in both (since I managed to get Odette at least in nutaku aigis, and joined just before a gold rush to get bernice and moldevort in DMM Aigis), but in the long run, with a bit of dedication, effort and guidance from veterans, you should be able to manage all events decently well as they come after 3months+
by decently well, I mean getting a perfect unit in star rush events and being able to at least clear G-tier maps.

also just would like to highlight one thing: event difficulty goes like this: star rush > item collection > unit farm (with the hardest difficulty starting from the left)

 

[Lucifina]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Always roll.
I was taught by a master you can totally trust me.

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

It's not what You WANT to get right as soon as You play the game
Obviously newbie will missed their chance on their first week
Like when I started DMM the Monkey Girl , get her but not Perfect
Maybe I can if I throw 100 SC or so for Power Lv
But that is not worth it , rather do refills after 100+

So it is more what WILL You GET from now on

If You feel You are weak , just do the Deep Forest Road or Clock Over Watch - Dragon Hunting with Auto Complete untill reach 100 Prince

Just ignore the Event , and You will be good~

 

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Er, not once did I ever say I wanted to dumb down the game for everyone else. I complained that it was ridiculously difficult, sure, but that doesn't mean I want to ruin it for everyone. It'd be great if there were an option to lower the difficulty, though.

As for spending real money, I had no idea you could even do that. I have no money, no job, and no way to make online transactions so that'll never be an option for me either way. Now that I do know that, I understand why it's so difficult. Sigh. I thought this was just a free tower defense type game, not a cash grab type game where they make it difficult for the purpose of getting less skilled people to spend money in order to advance.

this is gold right here its the funniest shit ive seen here in a long time it absolutely hilarious that you expect a event clear in less time then anyone else who has more time in than you on dmm it took me almost a whole year to aw and start clearing events to the max cause of just plain difficulty and even now maps get my team and i have a solid team for most things but thats whats fantastic about the game it always provides incentive to keep going cause theres something thats hard and i want to smash it or theres a girl i want to smash but i need to do x to do so i dont see that changing ever so if you dont appreciate the challenge gtfo we dont need you its that simple

 

[The Overgoat]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

After a week of hesitating over whether I should drop $50 on the game or not (it's a reasonably large sum for me) I decided to YOLO it. I'm not sure if it was worth it in retrospect, but yeah, easy to say that in hindsight.

New units:
Monica
Shizuka

Gold dupes:
Cyrus
Stella

The rest was silver crap.

The passive from Monica is good to have, especially now that we have AW and after skill AW (especially when we get the samurai buff from the DMM version) Shizuka is a damn monster. I mean, the DMM version has ~1500 physical defense, ~1000 attack and 15% life steal for 25 seconds. That's Anya levels of physical defense right there. Without that buff and skill AW though... she is "okay" at best. Better than the other samurai, but still.

I obviously wanted to get Aisha, but I knew that I probably won't be lucky enough for that. I did hope for Camila, Bashira or Elisabeth though. Or at least more gold dupes if nothing else. Seriously, 10 out of 14 pulls were goddamn silvers. Oh, well. I'll cook with what I have.

 

[Rawr1125]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

After a week of hesitating over whether I should drop $50 on the game or not (it's a reasonably large sum for me) I decided to YOLO it. I'm not sure if it was worth it in retrospect, but yeah, easy to say that in hindsight.

New units:
Monica
Shizuka

Gold dupes:
Cyrus
Stella

The rest was silver crap.

The passive from Monica is good to have, especially now that we have AW and after skill AW (especially when we get the samurai buff from the DMM version) Shizuka is a damn monster. I mean, the DMM version has ~1500 physical defense, ~1000 attack and 15% life steal for 25 seconds. That's Anya levels of physical defense right there. Without that buff and skill AW though... she is "okay" at best. Better than the other samurai, but still.

I obviously wanted to get Aisha, but I knew that I probably won't be lucky enough for that. I did hope for Camila, Bashira or Elisabeth though. Or at least more gold dupes if nothing else. Seriously, 10 out of 14 pulls were goddamn silvers. Oh, well. I'll cook with what I have.

Just my advice, MANY others probably have a different opinion.

IF I ever decided to spend money on this game, I wouldn't blow all the sc at once. Maybe 1-3 spins, then wait until next spotlight that has something I want.

Only way I would attempt more than 3 spins in a row, would be either I finally saved enough SC and have been spending them on a collection event to reach the first login card upgrade, or I've gotten 3 gold+ units in a row.

 

[The Overgoat]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Just my advice, MANY others probably have a different opinion.

IF I ever decided to spend money on this game, I wouldn't blow all the sc at once. Maybe 1-3 spins, then wait until next spotlight that has something I want.

Only way I would attempt more than 3 spins in a row, would be either I finally saved enough SC and have been spending them on a collection event to reach the first login card upgrade, or I've gotten 3 gold+ units in a row.

Thing is though the reason why I could justify this purchase for myself is that "hey, I get a chance at Aisha". No other unit is that broken and it would've compensate for pretty much any weakness I had. Out of the platinums I really wanted to get Bashira, but she'll never be a focus unit. Aside of that, I was like any premium platinum unit is fine. In hindsight, I should've spent this amount crystals on grinding. I know. But then again, it's easy to be smart in hindsight. If I would've got a black (pretty much any black, not just Aisha), then that would've made the situation completely different. If I would've actually get Aisha... yeah, events would've been smooth sailing for at least a year.

 

[omega780]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

New players will one day be able to get missed event units when we start getting revival events some day in the vast distant future. If you are just starting out: team build, team build, team build. Also keep an eye out for "common unit only" strats on youtube. If your team is sufficient enough you may be able to get some event units, and then go back to more team building.

(If you have tons of disposible income, then you could buy all the unit box extensions and barracks, and spend SC on refills to get the 1.2x exp buff and power level to catch up faster)

 

[yeehaws]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Which of these event units worth? None are CCed.

Marie (Max)
Rowanna (Max)
Shiho (15)
Rika(17)
Lynn(12)
Ada(11)
Horace(23)
Beatrice(MAX)
Momiji(21)
Azami(19) ( I got tons of extra copies tho)
Claudia (21) (I have Lydia)

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Which of these event units worth? None are CCed.

Marie (Max)
Rowanna (Max)
Shiho (15)
Rika(17)
Lynn(12)
Ada(11)
Horace(23)
Beatrice(MAX)
Momiji(21)
Azami(19) ( I got tons of extra copies tho)
Claudia (21) (I have Lydia)

Rowanna makes a good duelist, she's put in plenty of work for me and I don't even have her mincosted.

Shiho has some of the highest healing per second potential for a single target healer, only when her skill is up.

Claudia has true damage, but she gets outpaced by other princesses from what I've read.

 

[Eab1990]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Rika and Horace are definitely worthwhile duelists.

And seconding Shiho for being an amazing hybrid andhavingthecutestassetc.

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

New players will one day be able to get missed event units when we start getting revival events some day in the vast distant future.

I really hope that distant future is atleast not 2020......
By then , I even doubt if I still play this game(?) >.>

Man......
Time to send tickets

"REVIVAL FUCKING WHEN???!!!"

I want Witch!!!!
I am so peasant in this department
Between using Cloris-Calliope or currently Cloris-Shiho
Belinda / Eliza , really need them~

Also Anya and Shiho
I hesitate a LOT to AW Shiho , since mine is 18 UP

 

[The Overgoat]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Which of these event units worth? None are CCed.

Marie (Max)
Rowanna (Max)
Shiho (15)
Rika(17)
Lynn(12)
Ada(11)
Horace(23)
Beatrice(MAX)
Momiji(21)
Azami(19) ( I got tons of extra copies tho)
Claudia (21) (I have Lydia)

Marie is useless and will stay so until we get the sailor boost that happened in the DMM version.

Rowanna is a good duelist, although she can be tricky to use. (You have to let her health go somewhat down, but at the same time she won't live long without healers) She is the only free unit with a resistance to debuffs (poison, paralysis, desert heat) after awakening, which makes her much more useful.

Shiho is a really versatile unit. She has a decent damage output and her faster attack speed also increases the speed of her healing, making her a very proficient healer.

Rika cannot be healed and during skill activation (with AW'd skill) she can do ranged true damage. She also has quite formidable stats to make up for the fact that she cannot healed. She can be good if you need some support against a boss. And her AW'd skill makes her one of the best event units.

Lynn & Ada: Both are decent, but you can do without them, so don't prioritise them over others.

Horace is the better of the two event magic fencers, but that class is quite niche and situational, so probably shouldn't be a high priority.

Beatrice: Bleh, useless. Her skill takes away the only reason why you would ever use a pirate: her range. It shortens the range so badly, that she almost becomes melee.

Momiji: Again, useless. Her skill looks good but the short active time, the paralysation afterwards and the fact that her AW slows her attack speed makes it borderline useless. If you have Liana to negate her paralysis after skill use, then she is somewhat useable, but meh.

Azami: Get Saki from the TP and use your Azamis to level her skill. Maybe leave a copy, just in case if her AW'd skill makes her useful (it's not yet implemented even on DMM as far as I know), but as is, she is useless compared to Saki. Which is a shame because I really like her.

Claudia is the only free event unit that can do true damage pre-AW and she is a death sentence to dragons and dragonkin later. She is one of the most useful characters on your list.

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I'm having a complete brain fart here... what is the equations for EHP when it comes to magic and not physical damage....

It was something like (HP*.MR)+HP = EHP right....

 

[Blahblahblacksheep]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I'm having a complete brain fart here... what is the equations for EHP when it comes to magic and not physical damage....

It was something like (HP*.MR)+HP = EHP right....

HP/(1-.MR)